Sasuke isn't evil and his decision totally makes sense

[take it easy]

If Naruto can call the guy who killed his parents, Neji and started a war 'the coolest guy ever!', forgive him and shed tears for him, he can forgive his BEST FRIEND.

Obito was almost dead when Naruto forgave him.

 

[narutoblitz]

No those were Madara's actions and Itachi died of a terminal disease.

If you actually read the manga you would know this.

You're being myopic. Madara took his actions because he sought the power of the TB. Rin was kidnapped to place a TB in her. Itachi revolted and killed the clan because they were seeking power in the village. Obito wanted to collect the TB and become God and change the world. Same with Nagato.

Sasuke's looking past all of it and seeing the real problem in the NV, which he sees as the TB and the concept of chakra. His version of being Hokage is to destroy the village system Hashirama made. In other words, Sasuke never accepted what Hashirama told him. He just realized Hashirama's naivety had been inherited by his brother and Naruto.

 

[WalksInShadows]

Well,sasuke was bad before coming here to fight the war too... But he changed his decision ....

Kages might had been bad in past now they fight to protect all shin obis

Uchihas on the other hand are creating situations for war again and again, if he would kill himself all problems resolved no more uchiha no more IT or ten tails or rinnegan

I am no fan of naruto but yeah... Sasuke is no better than kages to pass judgement here on anybody, he is responsible too in so many ways...

Itachi told him to acknowledge himself , hashi told him to learn from past( madara never listens to hashi )... And now sauce doin the worst possible thing

ppl should really stop with this "Uchiha ppl do nothing but create war" nonsense, because 1 or 2 instances of Uchiha creating a situation =/= a pattern. There's been more conflicts started by ppl who didn't have that surname. In 1 of those aforementioned situations, higher ups were just as culpable for creating the conditions for one to start.

 

[narutoblitz]

Also let's not forget that Naruto said before the war had started, he understood what Sasuke was truly after. He knows what Sasuke is trying to do and obviously he doesn't agree, but he sees the reasoning behind it. Sasuke is not evil, not even Naruto thinks so.

 

[BLAZE]

What does that have to do with what happened to them? Seriously that was years in the past. If you want to use the eye for an eye ideology, then everyone deserves to die because of some form of injustice they did to someone else. America is no different where this land is actually stolen/taken from the Native Americans.


Vengeance is just one part of the human race ideolog, if everyone worked only on revenge then this world would constantly be in war and civilization in general would be destroyed until everyone was dead.
Not really on Hitler. Some people can't be reasoned with, but those people are usually not the majority. Hitler attempted to reason with the Jews' prior to the Holocaust but that got no where, and eventually he said f**k it, and decided to kill them. Although technically I don't think he was willing to agree to the Jews terms, but wanted them to stop protesting. Sasuke isn't even trying to reason and just saying f**k it right off the bat.


A lie told a thousand times doesn't make it the truth. A crime believed completely right by someone doesn't change it's a crime. Hitler acted out the Holocaust and the general consensus is that the Holocaust was evil and should never happen again.

Why is dat guy blabbering wasn't Christ Jewish born too :|

 

[saw2097]

You're being myopic. Madara took his actions because he sought the power of the TB. Rin was kidnapped to place a TB in her. Itachi revolted and killed the clan because they were seeking power in the village. Obito wanted to collect the TB and become God and change the world. Same with Nagato.

Sasuke's looking past all of it and seeing the real problem in the NV, which he sees as the TB and the concept of chakra. His version of being Hokage is to destroy the village system Hashirama made. In other words, Sasuke never accepted what Hashirama told him. He just realized Hashirama's naivety had been inherited by his brother and Naruto.

And how would destroying the TB change anything, people who want power will simply find another way to do it.

People killed each other and waged war long before the tailed beasts exist.

Also those were a result of Madara's actions, (and before him BZ), they set that whole situation in motion.

And Itachi killed his clan because they were planning a coup as a result of scrutiny from the elders, that had nothing to do with the Tailed Beasts, that was their own decision.


Also you said in your OP that the Sage thinks Sasuke is right, except that the Sage clearly said otherwise and that he trusted Naruto to handle Sasuke.

He said Sasuke was "no good." That isn't approval.

 

[Angelic.]

how can he create a world without chakra?and sage is already dead.
he looked more like he wanted to become the bad guy. he had sad face when seeing minato talk to naruto.

sasuke doesnt even know rins story or kushina being kidnapped. naruto does.
the world is already moving and sasuke doesnt know how they have come together. they need to combine their heads not kill each other.

 

[saw2097]

Why is dat guy blabbering wasn't Christ Jewish born too :|

He was, and he preached Judaism, it was his followers that started Christianity.

 

[Genjin]

Remove ninjustu and there will atill be voilence and hatred. Thats like removing firearms and expecting that the world will be forever peaceful.

Regarding Itachi's case, it was his choice and that choice was the right one. He had to kill his clan in order to stop the coup from happening because if it did happen, the leaf will be destroyed because of the fact that the other nations will take advantage of the leaf since it is weaken.

 

[narutoblitz]

Naruto's view of the world is currently incredibly naive and unrealistic. He has no answer to Nagato's original question. The villages will go right back to not trusting each other and to seeking the TB's power. The Sage is also aware of that, and chose to empower Sasuke for that reason. In other words Naruto will be defeated.

 

[narutoblitz]

Remove ninjustu and there will atill be voilence and hatred. Thats like removing firearms and expecting that the world will be forever peaceful.

Regarding Itachi's case, it was his choice and that choice was the right one. He had to kill his clan in order to stop the coup from happening because if it did happen, the leaf will be destroyed because of the fact that the other nations will take advantage of the leaf since it is weaken.

It's more like killing everyone that owns guns, and the people that know how to create them. In any case, Naruto's views of the world are counterfeit. He's a naive kid in an orange jumpsuit. He still has no answer on how to achieve world peace. Guess what? Sasuke has one. It's just one most of the Base doesn't like.

Killing the 5Kage makes a lot of sense. Sealing the TB is definitely something that is a good step to world peace in Narutoverse. Definitely, Naruto's just a selfish kid that's too unintelligent and naive to lead a nation.

Ball's in your court, NBers. I see no logical counterargument to this other than der herp Hitler invocations.

 

[BLAZE]

ppl should really stop with this "Uchiha ppl do nothing but create war" nonsense, because 1 or 2 instances of Uchiha creating a situation =/= a pattern. There's been more conflicts started by ppl who didn't have that surname. In 1 of those aforementioned situations, higher ups were just as culpable for creating the conditions for one to start.

agreed with this

 

[saw2097]

Naruto's view of the world is currently incredibly naive and unrealistic. He has no answer to Nagato's original question. The villages will go right back to not trusting each other and to seeking the TB's power. The Sage is also aware of that, and chose to empower Sasuke for that reason. In other words Naruto will be defeated.

Have you even read the last few arcs, the villages are already starting to trust each other.

And the Sage didn't choose Sasuke, he said that he trusted Naruto to stop Sasuke.

Honestly you just created this thread to start a flame war.

Everyone he is a troll ignore him.

 

[V h o]

Why is dat guy blabbering wasn't Christ Jewish born too :|

He was born a Jew I believe.

 

[narutoblitz]

And how would destroying the TB change anything, people who want power will simply find another way to do it.

People killed each other and waged war long before the tailed beasts exist.

Also those were a result of Madara's actions, (and before him BZ), they set that whole situation in motion.

And Itachi killed his clan because they were planning a coup as a result of scrutiny from the elders, that had nothing to do with the Tailed Beasts, that was their own decision.


Also you said in your OP that the Sage thinks Sasuke is right, except that the Sage clearly said otherwise and that he trusted Naruto to handle Sasuke.

He said Sasuke was "no good." That isn't approval.

Because destroying the TB means that Juubi can never be recreated and Kaguya can never come back. It also means BZ is sealed and it means that guys like Madara can't seek their power. It will reduce mankind's main weapon in the Narutoverse -- which is chakra. By taking the fruit and sealing all chakra in himself, Sasuke will die and chakra will forever be lost to the world.

It's a better answer than Naruto a naive kid in an orange jumpsuit has. He has no answer to world peace other than HERP DERP I WANNA BE HOKAGE.

Have you even read the last few arcs, the villages are already starting to trust each other.

And the Sage didn't choose Sasuke, he said that he trusted Naruto to stop Sasuke.

Honestly you just created this thread to start a flame war.

Everyone he is a troll ignore him.

If the Sage has the intention to stop Sasuke, then why give him power to begin with? The flashback showed clearly that Sasuke told the Sage directly what he intended to do.

 

[Solidedub]

If killing five people (basically terrorist) to stop the world from burning to Hell which the 5 kage (or just the kages) made Itachi kill his own clan for.

What would you do? If it was up to you obviously. And yes I do support the execution of them. What have they done as kages? They almost died fighting a shell of Madara then left the job up to teens and ran off to fight a half @ssed hashirama clone.

Like history...no one boycotted Hitler...not out of fear, but because they supported him. Hitler wasn't evil. His intentions were though...but only based on people who didn't support him which is logically why they disagree with him.
That doesn't make it right, but neither does Naruto's way necessarily. Peace can't exist without hatred or war. So sasuke way is wrong as well.

Realistically he is right. Naruto is too childish to except what is happening.
Apparently so are you.

Perhaaps Hitler is okay guy, despite the fact he humiliated and killed hundreds of Jewish and Gypsies people causing world war II. What's wrong with you? As for sauske, What he's doing is evil. He hasn't learned from Madara mistakes. I rather be childish than heartless.

 

[V h o]

I have never got a scan from anyone where Sasuke has stated he wanted peace, why is that? Seriously why are people embellishing the manga to combine Naruto's plan for peace with Sasuke's methods. So far Sasuke wants to destroy the system and rebuild it, that doesn't equal I want peace.

 

[BLAZE]

He was, and he preached Judaism, it was his followers that started Christianity.

Then why was dat guy crying over jew/hitler thing bringing christ inbetween :|

 

[saw2097]

I have never got a scan from anyone where Sasuke has stated he wanted peace, why is that? Seriously why are people embellishing the manga to combine Naruto's plan for peace with Sasuke's methods. So far Sasuke wants to destroy the system and rebuild it, that doesn't equal I want peace.

You know that hadn't actually occurred to me either, he never said anything about peace once.

He just said he wanted to change the system.

Then why was dat guy crying over jew/hitler thing bringing christ inbetween :|

Because King of the Pirates is a moron who doesn't know history.

Follow the argument and you will pick up on it.

 

[narutoblitz]

Godwin's law, boys. Once you invoke Hitler you've already lost the argument...