Sasuke isn't evil and his decision totally makes sense

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I think the whole spookyface panels thing kinda indicate some evilness. The last time Sasuke showed his spookyface he penetrated Karin. There might have been other panels like that between then I forgot about though, but that's the one that comes to mind.
 

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I think the whole spookyface panels thing kinda indicate some evilness. The last time Sasuke showed his spookyface he penetrated Karin. There might have been other panels like that between then I forgot about though, but that's the one that comes to mind.

I see what you did there
 

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Faith in humanity is over. I'm done discussing this.

Naruto is selfish? Lol says the guy who supports five people to be executed. SB is like Old Germany atm.

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If killing five people (basically terrorist) to stop the world from burning to Hell which the 5 kage (or just the kages) made Itachi kill his own clan for.

What would you do? If it was up to you obviously. And yes I do support the execution of them. What have they done as kages? They almost died fighting a shell of Madara then left the job up to teens and ran off to fight a half @ssed hashirama clone.

Like history...no one boycotted Hitler...not out of fear, but because they supported him. Hitler wasn't evil. His intentions were though...but only based on people who didn't support him which is logically why they disagree with him.
That doesn't make it right, but neither does Naruto's way necessarily. Peace can't exist without hatred or war. So sasuke way is wrong as well.

Realistically he is right. Naruto is too childish to except what is happening.
Apparently so are you.
 

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Like darth sidious thought: evil doesnt exist,we only label someone as evil because they oppose us or have different ideals....so no,sasuke isnt evil
 

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i pity those who read manga about ninja's aka murderers and then whine
OT:No the System is the problem and kages r a victim of it too

Yet you are crying over my post Lol

I'm reading Naruto though I'm not sure what kind of fanfic manga you are reading.​
 

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That isn't entirely false. Hitler at first wanted to reason (I believe they did other things before the known event) with the Jews since they were protesting for injustice, however one of Hitler's assistants/team members thought of the Holocaust as a reason to stop the Jews' revolt/protest. Eventually Hitler agreed and acted out the plan, since they grew tired of dealing with them. Either way Hitler was known for his inhumanity towards people, where he decided to kill instead of working things out with discussion.

Yet when they killed Christ what did they do or say?
Did they word it out? No.

Vengeance is also apart of the human race...and or everything that lives for that matter. Its inevitable they people die for another's cause. There are people who can't be reasoned with...Hitler was that person because he strongly believed he was right.

Its only logical everything....even if its purely 100% right will still be wrong to another person regardless of what it is.
 

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As I said to Wingul, How does Sasuke's decision make sense? All Sauske doing is causing another war resulting even more hatred. Sauske is making the same mistakes Madara made.
 

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Don't have time to read this bullshit

Manga already confirmed as evil as he wants to kill 5 kages.

Even hagoromo considered him as same to indra
 

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People say Sasuke is right to kill the Five Kage but they never even list how that will make the world a better place or how he will change the system to make the world a better place.

What Sasuke is doing is evil, if you want a comparison just look at the Captain America movie like someone else said, Hydra wanted to make the world a "better" place too through the same method.

In fact every take over the world villain has the same argument, the world will know peace, even Loki from the Avengers made the same argument.
 

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sasuke plan is to destroy the old government to create a new better one...now tell me
that their wasn't at least 1 or 2 times such events happen in your nation history

i can name several times it hppened with mines

the only difference is that sasuke includes killing...buts its not like other events haven't

u can say it wont create peace but in all honesty

a temporary peace is better than none

his plan only flaw is that it wont last forever
 

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So let's start off first by stating the world the Sage created is a miserable failure. It's seen 4 world wars and he even failed to stop his own sons from fighting and nearly destroying it. Many people suffered and died needlessly, amongst the Uchiha, Senju and other ninja families. The Sage of the Six Paths is a false God, and a well-meaning hypocrite, at best. At worst, he's an actual villain.

He also seemed to be aware of Sasuke's plans, yet did nothing to stop Sasuke and even enabled him by giving him more power. So it seems that even the Sage himself doesn't disagree with Sasuke's logic, at least not completely. The current Ninja system and the world of NV is hopelessly corrupt. Kakashi once stated Sasuke is a victim of the times, which I still endorse as a realistic moral view of Sasuke. Madara was a villain, a truly selfish nutjob that wanted to lord it over reality. Obito nearly went down that path. What Sasuke wants is a revolution of an undeniably corrupt system.

Naruto Uzumaki, on the other hand, is the unwitting pawn of a psychotic and corrupt Godhead. A naive, simplistic kid in an orange jumpsuit. Totally unfit for leadership, too immature and lacking in intellect. Sasuke by comparison is erratic, of course, but someone like Naruto would *NEVER* be allowed to lead a real world nation.

It should be the same in the NV right now. Neither Naruto nor Sasuke deserve to become Hokage, at least not yet. If the system itself does not change in NV, then more wars would be inevitable. Villages will go back to fighting over the TB and abusing their powers. Now that the villages have seen what the Juubi can do. Why wouldn't someone else try and reunite their chakra and become God with the chakra fruit?

Logically, Sasuke is right. Killing the tailed beasts is the surest way to acheive world peace and to remove ninjutsu from the world Naruto's moral imperative to keep them alive is based on *NOTHING* more than mere moral sentimentality and childish ego. They are not feeling beings, at least not in a human sense. In that sense, the lives of the TB hold no moral value. They are just chakra with a consciousness. Given the threat the Juubi represents and the TB represent, destroying them is not only morally justified, it makes sense.

My musings:

Sasuke = Naruto in terms of power NB has always been in denial about this. It's even more obvious now since we've seen the TB are currently sealed in Chibaku Tensei. Sasuke was reserving his power for the fight with Naruto, which is why he seemed useless in the fight with Kaguya. It's Yin vs. Yang more or less.

Naruto lost a lot of the TB chakra and Sage powers By comparison Sauce still has Shar-Rinnegan. I think the Sage took Naruto's power away, and left Sasuke's. Why? The Sage now thinks he made a mistake trusting his power to Ashura. He even alluded this to Naruto when he says I was wrong to trust in Ashura's views (the literal translation). More to the point...

Naruto will lose the fight with Sasuke. Why? Because he has to lose in order or the world to actually change. The world needs to change in order to end the Cycle of Hatred. The fight will end with Naruto allowing himself to be defeated, because he will realize Sauce isn't going to back down. He'll free Kurama and convince Sasuke to keep the TB in himself. Naruto will prolly still become Hokage and not die.

Kakashi can't stop them this time They aren't little kids anymore, and Kakashi of the Sharingan is over for good now. I think in the end Sasuke will win the fight, Naruto will win the seat of Hokage. The village system will be reformed and Sasuke will go off on his own in a TTGL style ending, taking the TB with him so that nobody can abuse their chakra anymore. Sakura may go with him.

In the end everyone thinks Sasuke will get TNJ'd. I don't think he will, because ultimately Sasuke is right and Naruto is wrong about what needs to happen in the ninja world. Naruto's fighting for a broken status quo at present.

Well,sasuke was bad before coming here to fight the war too... But he changed his decision ....

Kages might had been bad in past now they fight to protect all shin obis

Uchihas on the other hand are creating situations for war again and again, if he would kill himself all problems resolved no more uchiha no more IT or ten tails or rinnegan

I am no fan of naruto but yeah... Sasuke is no better than kages to pass judgement here on anybody, he is responsible too in so many ways...

Itachi told him to acknowledge himself , hashi told him to learn from past( madara never listens to hashi )... And now sauce doin the worst possible thing
 

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Yet when they killed Christ what did they do or say?
Did they word it out? No.

Vengeance is also apart of the human race...and or everything that lives for that matter. Its inevitable they people die for another's cause. There are people who can't be reasoned with...Hitler was that person because he strongly believed he was right.

Its only logical everything....even if its purely 100% right will still be wrong to another person regardless of what it is.

the jews hitler murdered didn't kill jesus, and it wasn't vengeance that motivated hitler to do what he did, he was looking for an escape goat for there countries current problem and he decided to make jews it,

stop trying to justify the mass murder of innocent people.
 

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Logically, Sasuke is right. Killing the tailed beasts is the surest way to acheive world peace and to remove ninjutsu from the world

Even if Sasuke defeats Naruto,executes the five kage and unites the ninja world he will never be accepted by the ninjas of the five nations or the land of iron samurais not even the common people of the NV.He'll have a full scale rebellion on his hands.No one would accept a criminal who murdered their respective village kages and killed/injured Naruto( who is the poster boy of the Allied shinobi forces and the shinobi world).


Sasuke = Naruto in terms of power NB has always been in denial about this. It's even more obvious now since we've seen the TB are currently sealed in Chibaku Tensei. Sasuke was reserving his power for the fight with Naruto, which is why he seemed useless in the fight with Kaguya.

Sasuke was not reserving his powers he was still getting the hang of them hence he didn't seem useless, he was useless against Kagz.
The tailed beast can probably still meet in Naruto and give him their chakra we'll just have to wait and watch on this one.

Naruto lost a lot of the TB chakra and Sage powers By comparison Sauce still has Shar-Rinnegan. I think the Sage took Naruto's power away, and left Sasuke's. Why? The Sage now thinks he made a mistake trusting his power to Ashura. He even alluded this to Naruto when he says I was wrong to trust in Ashura's views (the literal translation). More to the point...


Nah. Naruto and Sasuce both retained their seals.Naruto has not lost his six paths powers as evident when he stabbed BZ with goudama rods and tossed him into the Six paths CT.
Sasuke is not all powerful or invincible and he knows that since he waited for the previous kage to depart before revealing his true colors. The six paths sage entrusted Naruto to deal with Sasuke.That is all that is needed.The sage believes Naruto can defeat Sasuke or hold his own against him well.

Naruto will lose the fight with Sasuke. Why? Because he has to lose in order or the world to actually change. The world needs to change in order to end the Cycle of Hatred. The fight will end with Naruto allowing himself to be defeated, because he will realize Sauce isn't going to back down. He'll free Kurama and convince Sasuke to keep the TB in himself. Naruto will prolly still become Hokage and not die.

The guy who himself built half his ideals on hatred cannot end the cycle of hatred..and Kurama ain't gonna settle with a first class a-hole like Sasuke,especially since he treated his brethren with such contempt.

Kakashi can't stop them this time They aren't little kids anymore, and Kakashi of the Sharingan is over for good now. I think in the end Sasuke will win the fight, Naruto will win the seat of Hokage. The village system will be reformed and Sasuke will go off on his own in a TTGL style ending, taking the TB with him so that nobody can abuse their chakra anymore. Sakura may go with him.
Kakashi is already fried and he is no longer Kakashi of sharingan.The TB won't go with saying it the second time with a first class a hole like Sasuke.Even Sakura is over him now so count her out.Only team Taka may follow him.

In the end everyone thinks Sasuke will get TNJ'd. I don't think he will, because ultimately Sasuke is right and Naruto is wrong about what needs to happen in the ninja world. Naruto's fighting for a broken status quo at present.
I respect your opinion mate but everything i stated above is mine opinion.
I don't know why i went to such length to do this.I guess i was reallyx100 bored.
 

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Yet you are crying over my post Lol

I'm reading Naruto though I'm not sure what kind of fanfic manga you are reading.​
@bolded thats ur job
@underline i m reading naruto manga unlike certain someone who cries and whine over char Lol
 

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Oh and the OP actually claims that Naruto lost and Sasuke succeeded with his revolution.

If that were true Gaara would have been killed, but as we saw in the sketches for Naruto The Last movie, Gaara is still alive.

So Sasuke's revolution failed.
 

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Yet when they killed Christ what did they do or say?
Did they word it out? No.

What does that have to do with what happened to them? Seriously that was years in the past. If you want to use the eye for an eye ideology, then everyone deserves to die because of some form of injustice they did to someone else. America is no different where this land is actually stolen/taken from the Native Americans.
Vengeance is also apart of the human race...and or everything that lives for that matter. Its inevitable they people die for another's cause. There are people who can't be reasoned with...Hitler was that person because he strongly believed he was right.

Vengeance is just one part of the human race ideolog, if everyone worked only on revenge then this world would constantly be in war and civilization in general would be destroyed until everyone was dead.
Not really on Hitler. Some people can't be reasoned with, but those people are usually not the majority. Hitler attempted to reason with the Jews' prior to the Holocaust but that got no where, and eventually he said f**k it, and decided to kill them. Although technically I don't think he was willing to agree to the Jews terms, but wanted them to stop protesting. Sasuke isn't even trying to reason and just saying f**k it right off the bat.
Its only logical everything....even if its purely 100% right will still be wrong to another person regardless of what it is.

A lie told a thousand times doesn't make it the truth. A crime believed completely right by someone doesn't change it's a crime. Hitler acted out the Holocaust and the general consensus is that the Holocaust was evil and should never happen again.
 

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I don't think Sasuke is evil too. But his ways are wrong. I don't blame him really, he got mind****ed so many times he doesn't know whats right or wrong. I don't think ALL the Kage should get killed off, especially Tsunade. But if he uses the Bijuu on Naruto, he's a goner. Sorry to rain on your parade Narutards, I doubt Sasuke will get killed. If Naruto can call the guy who killed his parents, Neji and started a war 'the coolest guy ever!', forgive him and shed tears for him, he can forgive his BEST FRIEND.
 

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Take for example what happened to Rin. A child that died because she was kidnapped and became a host for the TB. same for Naruto and his family. The Uchiha clan massacre, Itachi's death. I mean basically the whole NV world stinks because the TB exist and due to the current leadership. Sasuke is totally justified in what he's doing.

Sauce isn't trying to take over the world like Madara did. He's fully resolved to kill Naruto and die alongside him, sealing the TB and killing the Sage and the Kage. It'll create a world without ninjas and a world without war, also a world without chakra. As he said, he's out to burn down the whole system.
 
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Take for example what happened to Rin. A child that died because she was kidnapped and became a host for the TB. same for Naruto and his family. The Uchiha clan massacre, Itachi's death. I mean basically the whole NV world stinks because the TB exist and due to the current leadership. Sasuke is totally justified in what he's doing.

No those were Madara's actions and Itachi died of a terminal disease.

If you actually read the manga you would know this.
 
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