Sasuke isn't evil and his decision totally makes sense

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So let's start off first by stating the world the Sage created is a miserable failure. It's seen 4 world wars and he even failed to stop his own sons from fighting and nearly destroying it. Many people suffered and died needlessly, amongst the Uchiha, Senju and other ninja families. The Sage of the Six Paths is a false God, and a well-meaning hypocrite, at best. At worst, he's an actual villain.

He also seemed to be aware of Sasuke's plans, yet did nothing to stop Sasuke and even enabled him by giving him more power. So it seems that even the Sage himself doesn't disagree with Sasuke's logic, at least not completely. The current Ninja system and the world of NV is hopelessly corrupt. Kakashi once stated Sasuke is a victim of the times, which I still endorse as a realistic moral view of Sasuke. Madara was a villain, a truly selfish nutjob that wanted to lord it over reality. Obito nearly went down that path. What Sasuke wants is a revolution of an undeniably corrupt system.

Naruto Uzumaki, on the other hand, is the unwitting pawn of a psychotic and corrupt Godhead. A naive, simplistic kid in an orange jumpsuit. Totally unfit for leadership, too immature and lacking in intellect. Sasuke by comparison is erratic, of course, but someone like Naruto would *NEVER* be allowed to lead a real world nation.

It should be the same in the NV right now. Neither Naruto nor Sasuke deserve to become Hokage, at least not yet. If the system itself does not change in NV, then more wars would be inevitable. Villages will go back to fighting over the TB and abusing their powers. Now that the villages have seen what the Juubi can do. Why wouldn't someone else try and reunite their chakra and become God with the chakra fruit?

Logically, Sasuke is right. Killing the tailed beasts is the surest way to acheive world peace and to remove ninjutsu from the world Naruto's moral imperative to keep them alive is based on *NOTHING* more than mere moral sentimentality and childish ego. They are not feeling beings, at least not in a human sense. In that sense, the lives of the TB hold no moral value. They are just chakra with a consciousness. Given the threat the Juubi represents and the TB represent, destroying them is not only morally justified, it makes sense.

My musings:

Sasuke = Naruto in terms of power NB has always been in denial about this. It's even more obvious now since we've seen the TB are currently sealed in Chibaku Tensei. Sasuke was reserving his power for the fight with Naruto, which is why he seemed useless in the fight with Kaguya. It's Yin vs. Yang more or less.

Naruto lost a lot of the TB chakra and Sage powers By comparison Sauce still has Shar-Rinnegan. I think the Sage took Naruto's power away, and left Sasuke's. Why? The Sage now thinks he made a mistake trusting his power to Ashura. He even alluded this to Naruto when he says I was wrong to trust in Ashura's views (the literal translation). More to the point...

Naruto will lose the fight with Sasuke. Why? Because he has to lose in order or the world to actually change. The world needs to change in order to end the Cycle of Hatred. The fight will end with Naruto allowing himself to be defeated, because he will realize Sauce isn't going to back down. He'll free Kurama and convince Sasuke to keep the TB in himself. Naruto will prolly still become Hokage and not die.

Kakashi can't stop them this time They aren't little kids anymore, and Kakashi of the Sharingan is over for good now. I think in the end Sasuke will win the fight, Naruto will win the seat of Hokage. The village system will be reformed and Sasuke will go off on his own in a TTGL style ending, taking the TB with him so that nobody can abuse their chakra anymore. Sakura may go with him.

In the end everyone thinks Sasuke will get TNJ'd. I don't think he will, because ultimately Sasuke is right and Naruto is wrong about what needs to happen in the ninja world. Naruto's fighting for a broken status quo at present.
 

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Sasuke condones killing the leaders of the shinobi system, and that is not okay or makes sense. Sasuke is attempting to kill/destroy what he doesn't like but that will never result in peace if the people's mindset is the same. Killing a Hitler doesn't prevent another one from surfacing.
 

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That's like saying Hitler isn't evil and his decision totally makes since. These Sauce fans are so deluded.
 

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The current 5 Kage need to die in order for the world to reform. Even Ohnoki admits they lost their way. I think their murder is fully justified, in the same sense I'd argue that the destruction of the American government is also morally justified.

That's like saying Hitler isn't evil and his decision totally makes since. These Sauce fans are so deluded.

Yeah it's called Godwin's law, my dearest Narutards. Once you're invoking Hitler you've already lost the argument. GG.
 

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lol no, he is a murderous Psychopath. I pity the sociopaths who support his plan.​
 

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I agree, revolution is coming and naruto wont be able to stop it.
 

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naruto wont lose hes the main character plus he lost last time why would kishi make him lose again
 

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That's like saying Hitler isn't evil and his decision totally makes since. These Sauce fans are so deluded.

Hitler actually wasn't evil. If you believe Jews aren't (when they killed Jesus and deny it anyways) then they were in the wrong.
Weather you disagree or not it matters not.

Everyone opinion can be wrong. Naruto's is selfish and it can be considered wrong. No one opinion is right because no one person besides Kishi matters.
Only in this series of course.
 

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lol no, he is a murderous Psychopath. I pity the sociopaths who support his plan.​

You mean he's a ninja!!?
Who would have thought?!

And FYI naruto has killed or tried to kill people who oppose his ideals as well.
 

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oh yes someone who Suggesting killing ppl is lodically right , three of them have never done anything wrong to him and are not responblibe for the past actions of the past kages, Tsunade has been tolerent of Sasuke's crimes even pulling to make sure he was not highly crimlized. AND GARA has only Kage what maybie a year. Gara has suffered way worst from this sytem then Sasuke but he's trying to make achange the right way
 

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At best he has good intentions, and his plan and way of going about it makes sense, in a delusional kinda of way. Being realistic, it's ridiculous and the kid is a f*cking psychopath. Then again, Naruto's way isn't any more realistic. But peace and cooperation is much more of a better thing than killing people and becoming a dictator.

As other people have, I'll also make the allusion to Hitler. He, in his mind just like Sasuke, has a sound and solid plan, but it's only good to the one who came up with it. Any normal, rational person would be able to see that both Sasuke and Hitler had/have good intentions in mind, but their way of going about it is not normal nor rational. And just like we've seen time and time before, in both the manga and real life, the plan will fail ultimately.
 

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Hitler actually wasn't evil. If you believe Jews aren't (when they killed Jesus and deny it anyways) then they were in the wrong.
Weather you disagree or not it matters not.

Everyone opinion can be wrong. Naruto's is selfish and it can be considered wrong. No one opinion is right because no one person besides Kishi matters.
Only in this series of course.

Faith in humanity is over. I'm done discussing this.

Naruto is selfish? Lol says the guy who supports five people to be executed. SB is like Old Germany atm.

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look at how well that strategy worked out for Nagato. Sasuke is just being a bigger moron than usual U_U
 
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Ok let's engage in moral equivalence. Ay tried to kill Naruto. He tried to kill Sasuke. Ay is a child murderer, therefore Ay deserves to die. Tsunade's direct orders started and escalated the war, leading to to the 1st Division being wiped out. Tsunade is now Hitler.

See where this is going? That's Godwin's Law.

The difference between Sasuke and Nagato is Sasuke doesnt think he's God. Sasuke realizes he will never be Hokage. I suspect the end game is Sasuke plans to die with Naruto, destroying chakra and sealing the Sage/bijuu. No more chakra. No more ninjas. No more war.
 

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lol no, he is a murderous Psychopath. I pity the sociopaths who support his plan.​

i pity those who read manga about ninja's aka murderers and then whine
OT:No the System is the problem and kages r a victim of it too
 

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Gara is the one who's going to make the change that's needed to the system , he's is the one who is doing it the right way not Sasuke
 

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Hitler actually wasn't evil. If you believe Jews aren't (when they killed Jesus and deny it anyways) then they were in the wrong.
Weather you disagree or not it matters not.

Everyone opinion can be wrong. Naruto's is selfish and it can be considered wrong. No one opinion is right because no one person besides Kishi matters.
Only in this series of course.

That isn't entirely false. Hitler at first wanted to reason (I believe they did other things before the known event) with the Jews since they were protesting for injustice, however one of Hitler's assistants/team members thought of the Holocaust as a reason to stop the Jews' revolt/protest. Eventually Hitler agreed and acted out the plan, since they grew tired of dealing with them. Either way Hitler was known for his inhumanity towards people, where he decided to kill instead of working things out with discussion.
 

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That's like saying HYDRA from the Captain America films are not evil. As they have the same goal and methods as Sasuke.
 

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The difference between Sasuke and Nagato is Sasuke doesnt think he's God. Sasuke realizes he will never be Hokage. I suspect the end game is Sasuke plans to die with Naruto, destroying chakra and sealing the Sage/bijuu. No more chakra. No more ninjas. No more war.
Sasuke does believe he's God, based off the simple fact that he believes that he has the power to destroy and recreate an entirely new system within a lifetime. Smarter ppl than him have tried and failed already. It's tragic that Sasuke refused to learn from it because he's too full of himself too realize that everybody of that ilk but Kaguya ended up having regrets about trying to put everything on their own shoulders to change everything. In essence, Sasuke is exactly like Kaguya.
 
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