[Discussion] Why do people consider Sasuke a Criminal?

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He wants to kill his best friend to gain more power,

He does NOT want to kill naruto. Which is why he did not use Chibaku Tensei on him. He does not want to kill innocent people... only those who barricade the path to peace.

Naruto is the one attacking him right now... naruto is the one trying to kill him.

Sasuke no longer desires power... he has enough to carry out his Revolution.
 

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Are you kidding? Sasuke has attempted to kill the 5 Kage, Kakashi, Naruto (obviously), Bee (after joining the AKATSUKI and ultimately helping Madara bring back the JUUBI)... and before that he had joined forces with Orochimaru. Dude, the brat has been "worse than trash" for 3-4 years now.
 

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Did he mention he is gonna take his eye ball out and destroy it later coz after biju he is the only come class to sage.... Most powerful,

since wen he decide he is innocent, he already told hashi, " he no pure nor innocent , he is just another uchiha fallen to curse of hate"

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Nothing like madara...

Sasuke Plan:
keep peoples freedom/ Free Will
Cut off ALL access to the Biju's Power thus eliminating the chance of evil becoming uncontainable.
A world of peace in which their is no segregation...(like Tobirama did to Uchiha)
Take no BS... Kill all of those who don't support peace...(In this case the 5 Kage)

It all starts with good intentions jus like but in the end it's the same thing another form of control. Once someone starts to disagree with his ways or methods people start disappearing. So u think what he is doing is to free anyone? Do u think the people from all the shinobi countries losing their Kages they would jus give in? They would want revenge it's the same as Indira's will controlling by power and force.Come on now be realistic it'll be a war and he'll end up killin people that won't go with his plan jus like Madara. Then you missed the whole point of the fight between the brother's then. One wanted to rule thru force and power while another wanted to do it with peace and cooperation. Sasuke is going the route of Indira.
 
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Why are people acting like he was only going for Danzo..He joined a terroist orgainization...thats criminal. He tried to kill Bee...whats that..criminal. When Kakashi tried to persuade him one last time his words were something like.
"You have no idea how bad I want to kill you etc" So yeah it was already in his mind to kill leaf ninjas period not just Danzo. Affiliating with someone like Oro (who was a main antagonist) will make you criminal. Dude was a criminal. LOL, also their laws differ from normal life. If I leave America I wont be hunted (maybe) and seen as a traitor (unless I leak info). Based on his crap...he's a criminal.

He didn't try to kill Bee... he tried to capture him. Also he knows he was not strong enough then.

Also he was under EXTREME emotional trauma and was not thinking right..... I did not like that Sasuke. AT ALL.

But Sauke is over it thanks to Itachi's Second Death. He has opened his eyes to see Reality.

he joined oro and Akatsuki under the influence of HATE! He developed a LUST for power.

Also kakashi has no clue what peace is so of course Sasuke is not going to join him
 

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It all starts with good intentions jus like Madara's but in the end it's the same thing another form of control. Once someone starts to disagree with his ways or methods people start disappearing. So u think what he is doing is to free anyone? Do u think of the people from all the shinobi countries lost their Kages they would fold? Come on now be realistic it'll be a war and he'll end up killin people that won't go with his plan jus like Madara.

People will see that his way is better than the previous and will not want to oppose him UNLESS they don't want peace and that is a liability. sasuke will not allow liabilties AT ALL.
 

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He didn't try to kill Bee... he tried to capture him. Also he knows he was not strong enough then.

Also he was under EXTREME emotional trauma and was not thinking right..... I did not like that Sasuke. AT ALL.

But Sauke is over it thanks to Itachi's Second Death. He has opened his eyes to see Reality.

he joined oro and Akatsuki under the influence of HATE! He developed a LUST for power.

Also kakashi has no clue what peace is so of course Sasuke is not going to join him

Never said he was going to join him but he told Sasuke to stop with the revenge >_>, also how many presidential pardons are oyu giving this guy?
 

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Are you kidding? Sasuke has attempted to kill the 5 Kage, Kakashi, Naruto (obviously), Bee (after joining the AKATSUKI and ultimately helping Madara bring back the JUUBI)... and before that he had joined forces with Orochimaru. Dude, the brat has been "worse than trash" for 3-4 years now.

look

If the previous Kage would have disposed of the Biju... their would be no Akatsuki, war, juubi revival, kaguya revival, mass destruction..... Sasuke is doing what the previious kage's failed to do.

So it is all the previous kage's fault that this mess happened. and hagoromo's for creating "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" and hoping that the world would not use them for destruction... lol
 

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Never said he was going to join him but he told Sasuke to stop with the revenge >_>, also how many presidential pardons are oyu giving this guy?

Sorry... also He has no plan of Regvenge anymore... but of Reform and Revolution.

And his plan is actually logical.
 

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He didn't try to kill Bee... he tried to capture him. Also he knows he was not strong enough then.

Also he was under EXTREME emotional trauma and was not thinking right..... I did not like that Sasuke. AT ALL.

But Sauke is over it thanks to Itachi's Second Death. He has opened his eyes to see Reality.

he joined oro and Akatsuki under the influence of HATE! He developed a LUST for power.

Also kakashi has no clue what peace is so of course Sasuke is not going to join him

Oh god, that's like a plea to insanity for the Uchiha now.
Getting common to see this kinda stuff.
Sauce was given chances, after chances, after chances, to join the leaf.

But in the end he still betrays it, I have no problem with that.
I mean the big men at the top of the leaf f*cked over him, barely.(Even though it was actually only Danzo, and was actually for a greater good).

But then he goes on attacking Bee who was literally 0% relevant to him or the leaf.
Even after the team accepted him he still double crossed them.
Then started taking anger out on Kages with 0% of relevancy to anything to do with his clan.

He's simply killing them to rule at this point.
This isn't due to any clan trauma, it's purely formed from his greed for power.
 
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Oh god, that's like a plea to insanity for the Uchiha now.
Getting common to see this kinda stuff.
Sauce was given chances, after chances, after chances, to join the leaf.

But in the end he still betrays it, I have no problem with that.
I mean the big men at the top of the leaf f*cked over him.

But then he goes on attacking Bee who was literally 0% relevancy to him or the leaf.
Even after the team accepted him he still double crossed them.
Then started taking anger out on Kages with 0% of relevancy to anything to do with his clan.

He's simply killing them to rule at this point.
This isn't due to any clan trauma, it's purely formed from his greed for power.

Do you even know why he wants the 5 kage Dead?

The 5 Kage want to keep the "Weapons of Mass Destruction" Sasuke does not because they will simply e used for destruction in the future.

The 5 kage have an influence over the entire world. Sasuke can't let them live because they are a Liability to his plan of peace.
Also why would Sasuke join the Leaf?...

The leaf want to keep the Biju and thus cause future problems.... Sasuke wants to dispose of them to prevent future problems.

The Leaf Killed his Clan.
 
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If the previous Kage would have disposed of the Biju... their would be no Akatsuki, war, juubi revival, kaguya revival, mass destruction..... Sasuke is doing what the previious kage's failed to do.

So it is all the previous kage's fault that this mess happened. and hagoromo's for creating "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" and hoping that the world would not use them for destruction... lol

Um. If, to you, this type of sociopathic reasoning makes sense (killing off the bijuus who are sentient and will just be reborn anyway, and killing off the Kages for not killing the bijuu), then there's really no point debating. To most other people, that kind of behavior is akin to Hitler's.
 

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Um. If, to you, this type of sociopathic reasoning makes sense (killing off the bijuus who are sentient and will just be reborn anyway, and killing off the Kages for not killing the bijuu), then there's really no point debating. To most other people, that kind of behavior is akin to Hitler's.

No... Sealing them.

Also before I leave this thread think about this.

The Biju ARE innocent.

Their is only 2 options.

EAch option has Pros and Cons... the difference is that one has more cons than the other.

Option 1: Do as the previous/current kage have done... Keep and protect the Biju. Risk the chance of them being Captured, and eventually used for mass destruction in the future.

By Saving the lives of Biju you risk the lives of thousands of innocent people generations to come.

Option 2: You seal away the Biju/ or dispose of them somehow. Thus stopping ALL chances of any evil getting their hands on Massive Power.

By sacrificing the Biju's Life you save the lives of thousands generations to come.

It's that simple. Option 1 has been tried... for generations... and has failed EVERYTIME.

Option 2 has just begun!
 
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No... Sealing them.

Also before I leave this thread think about this.

The Biju ARE innocent.

Their is only 2 options.

EAch option has Pros and Cons... the difference is that one has more cons than the other.

Option 1: Do as the previous/current kage have done... Keep and protect the Biju. Risk the chance of them being Captured, and eventually used for mass destruction in the future.

By Saving the lives of Biju you risk the lives of thousands of innocent people generations to come.

Option 2: You seal away the Biju/ or dispose of them somehow. Thus stopping ALL chances of any evil getting their hands on Massive Power.

By sacrificing the Biju's Life you save the lives of thousands generations to come.

It's that simple. Option 1 has been tried... for generations... and has failed EVERYTIME.

Option 2 has just begun!

There are more options. I'll just brainstorm a few:

1) Divide the bijuus up further into smaller, less haxed bijuus

2) Create temples and international laws to protect the bijuu

3) Letting the bijuu choose their jinchuurikis to ensure compatibility and perfect control to avoid capture, e.g., a la Bee.

4) Having Naruto keep clones watching over them at all times

5) Since Naruto is their new "meeting place", Naruto could always summon them back, after making the appropriate contracts

6) idk, TALKING to the others and not trying to decide everything for your self, your 16-year-old, inexperienced, never-even-been-laid self. Just chill the fvck out with your inferiority complex, Sasky.
 

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Man these fanboy thread are getting out of hand.

If you break a law you're a criminal, it doesn't matter if you were justified in doing it or not. Sasuke became a criminal the second he left the village, end of story.
 

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Many say he is a criminal for killing Danzo... but Danzo himself is a Criminal... he just happened to be an Elder, Student Of Lord Second, and the Hokage's Representative... still a criminal though.

If Obama killed my family or rather ordered the execution of my family I would go to no end in order to kill him... President or Not.

Also Sasuke unlike Danzo never killed innocent people!

Yeah he tried to kill Sakura... but damn it Sakura was trying to kill him too!

And then with the recent Revolution....

He is simply destroying the Biju to prevent the chance of future improper/evil use of their powers. If he was Evil he would have used it on naruto and Team 7 as well but he desires not to kill them because that is not his plan.

he is simply stopping a problem before it starts. It was because the nations desired Power that they let the Biju continue to exist... and it is because of that that they were captured and kaguya was revived.

Sasuke is just destroying the "weapons of Mass Destruction" before they get in the wrong hands.

it's not the Biju's fault but they ARE still a liability to peace and Sasuke is the only one smart enough to see that. He can take no chance like the previous world rulers did.

Finally, someone with common sense. At this point, the majority are hating Sasuke due to preference, instead of actual logic. Sasuke's goal isn't wrong & given what the beasts have been used to do in the past, his reasons aren't wrong either. They have been used for nothing, but warfare & being that it'll be not that difficult for any villain to control one, it's a serious problem. People just dislike that Sasuke is willing to sacrifice Naruto to achieve this goal. They will come to a mutual agreement, but still.
 

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Man these fanboy thread are getting out of hand.

If you break a law you're a criminal, it doesn't matter if you were justified in doing it or not. Sasuke became a criminal the second he left the village, end of story.

Yah exactly.....what are these fanboys problem?

People say his actions were justified, well so are the actions of terrorists from there point of view. But from the ninja worlds point of view, Sasuke is S class criminal.

Sasuke is bad guy, he's consumed by darkness......he's also a big douchy baby...

Thats why Sasuke only redemption he'll ever attain will be thru his death, because he's characterization won't allow him to be any less then what Nagato was....what Obito was.
 

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Finally, someone with common sense. At this point, the majority are hating Sasuke due to preference, instead of actual logic. Sasuke's goal isn't wrong & given what the beasts have been used to do in the past, his reasons aren't wrong either. They have been used for nothing, but warfare & being that it'll be not that difficult for any villain to control one, it's a serious problem. People just dislike that Sasuke is willing to sacrifice Naruto to achieve this goal. They will come to a mutual agreement, but still.

Please don't talk about logic when defending Sasuke. His end goal might be understandable (no more weapons of mass destruction), but his methodology is flawed and absurd. Killing the 5 Kage? Why? They were instrumental in this war. They worked together and seemed optimistic towards a bright, cooperative future.

Lil Sausage, however, wants to murder them in their sleep without even trying to talk to them about a new system. He's completely worthless, and is now about to [try to] kill Naruto, who just helped him save the world, and who is the only human being to show him compassion and unconditional love besides his brother. And Sakura (sigh).
 

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There's a video game called Soul Calibur & in that game, there's this powerful weapon called the "Soul Edge". All of the evil people in the world seek this weapon, so that they may have this ultimate power within their grasp, to do whatever evil seeks they wish. There is a man named Siegfried and he sees that this weapon needs to be guarded so that no man will ever use it, the problem is, Siegfried is no God. He is prone to death, thus the Soul Edge can get captured. So, you tell me. What should be done about Soul Edge? Seems to me, it should get destroyed somehow.

Or how about the videogame The Last of Us? In it, the main character Joel finds out that the little girl that he looks at as a daughter, is the only cure for mankind (there is a worldwide disease turning people into somewhat zombie-esque creatures). He is stuck with the decision of either letting her go for the sake of humanity, or keep her and let mankind fully die out. Them two included.

So, the greater good, or the little good?
 

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Yeah, He does what ''he'' wants to do. And they are ''his ideals'' but that doesn't mean that what he's doing is right.

It's wrong and therefor he's a criminal. He's doing things that aren't allowed in the ''Shinobi Law'' or whatever.

I'm not making any sense XD so byuhhh.
 
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