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It's very simple. I love Itachi for everything beliefs, personality etc. However I also understand where sasuke is coming from. Itachi may not have agreed with sasuke's plan and neither do I completely, however I can see where Sasuke's points and where he is coming from.



That's the same one Lol.
That still doesn't answer my question. It's a yes or no.

Do you agree with Sasuke's plan?
 

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It's very simple. I love Itachi for everything beliefs, personality etc. However I also understand where sasuke is coming from. Itachi may not have agreed with sasuke's plan and neither do I completely, however I can see where Sasuke's points and where he is coming from.
We can all see it. But I still wouldn't defend Sasuke. He's dangerous and his plan yields nothing but a horrible future for the world :/

He's unreasonable
 
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It's very simple. I love Itachi for everything beliefs, personality etc. However I also understand where sasuke is coming from. Itachi may not have agreed with sasuke's plan and neither do I completely, however I can see where Sasuke's points and where he is coming from.



That's the same one Lol.




I never said that at all. I only explained that there was more into this than you were taking into account. I don't agree with Sasuke completely. Killing the Kage is unnecessary. They only need to be replaced with new hand picked ones placed in there steads. The bijuu however need to stay sealed away.
And who is Sasuke to decide such a thing?
 

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Not completely. Killing the Kage is unnecessary. They only need to be replaced with new hand picked ones placed in there steads. The bijuu however need to stay sealed away.
He should become their Jinchuriki. Then seal them when he dies or maybe give them all to his successor, which he'll need to maintain his system.
 

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And who is Sasuke to decide such a thing?
One of the ones who has been affected most by it. If anyone deserves the chance to rectify these wrongs it's him.

We can all see it. But I still wouldn't defend Sasuke. He's dangerous and his plan yields nothing but a horrible future for the world :/

He's unreasonable
You have no idea what his plan is. Don't spout nonsense.
He should become their Jinchuriki. Then seal them when he dies or maybe give them all to his successor, which he'll need to maintain his system.
He has no interest in doing that. Why bother when he can seal them away forever and keep the world safe.

So, that's a no then. Ok. Good to know.
It's not. I agree just not completely.
 

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One of the ones who has been affected most by it. If anyone deserves the chance to rectify these wrongs it's him.


Then we may as well say that Obito was right and just in what he did, as the system affected him just as badly as it did as Sasuke, if not worse, hell, why isn't Kakashi evil, if this is the way you want to play this game.
 

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One of the ones who has been affected most by it. If anyone deserves the chance to rectify these wrongs it's him.


You have no idea what his plan is. Don't spout nonsense.


He has no interest in doing that. Why bother when he can seal them away forever and keep the world safe.


It's not. I agree just not completely.
You can't not agree completely. If you disagree with even a little part of his plan, you disagree with it.

You're proposing another plan that isn't Sasuke's, so that's disagreeing with it.
 

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To me, it seems as if he wants revenge on the system, rather than wanting to prevent someone from getting hurt as much as he was.
The manga disagrees with you.

Then we may as well say that Obito was right and just in what he did, as the system affected him just as badly as it did as Sasuke, if not worse, hell, why isn't Kakashi evil, if this is the way you want to play this game.

I'm not getting any further into this. I disagree with everything Obito did and I have many reasons but if it starts this will go another 10 pages. No thank you.


You can't not agree completely. If you disagree with even a little part of his plan, you disagree with it.

You're proposing another plan that isn't Sasuke's, so that's disagreeing with it.
I'm not proposing another plan. I'm saying what is a better plan as his is not perfect. However I go along with his plan. I just don't like everything about it.
 

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You can't not agree completely. If you disagree with even a little part of his plan, you disagree with it.

You're proposing another plan that isn't Sasuke's, so that's disagreeing with it.
Especially for a topic this big, it has to be a 100% complete to follow through.

The manga disagrees with you.
I think Kishi did a good job on making Sasuke look like the Final Villain this chapter, though. Lol, especially with those faces.
 
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You're spouting nonsense. Use your better judgement. Sasuke's plan ends with him being a tyrant.
If you say so.

Especially for a topic this big, it has to be a 100% complete to follow through.


I think Kishi did a good job on making Sasuke look like the Final Villain this chapter, though. Lol, especially with those faces.
But it has nothing to do with revenge.
 

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The manga disagrees with you.



I'm not getting any further into this. I disagree with everything Obito did and I have many reasons but if it starts this will go another 10 pages. No thank you.




I'm not proposing another plan. I'm saying what is a better plan as his is not perfect. However I go along with his plan. I just don't like everything about it.
So, you agree with his plan, but you also have a better plan than his at the same time? Sounds a lot like you don't agree with it, but you're fine if it happens anyway.

You're spouting nonsense. Use your better judgement. Sasuke's plan ends with him being a tyrant.
Actually, he's right though. We don't know how it's going to end.
 
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Trúth;17119553 [FONT=Palatino Linotype said:

I'm not getting any further into this. I disagree with everything Obito did and I have many reasons but if it starts this will go another 10 pages. No thank you.[/

Then you're a hypocrite, Sasuke's plans are even worse than IT, as they either end with him being a tyrant or total anarchy. Want proof of this? Refer to your previous arguments, where you say Sasuke doesn't trust other people. If he doesn't trust people enough to even explain his goals to them, do you seriously believe he would trust anybody but himself to lead the world?
 

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If you say so.



But it has nothing to do with revenge.
He hasn't been shown to care for others, truly though. I don't see anything that suggests it's truly for peace. He has the same logic as a dictator. "Others can't be trusted and I'm the only one who can bring peace, oh, and I'll execute the past leaders even those who have done nothing wrong (Gaara)."
 

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Then you're a hypocrite, Sasuke's plans are even worse than IT, as they either end with him being a tyrant or total anarchy. Want proof of this? Refer to your previous arguments, where you say Sasuke doesn't trust other people. If he doesn't trust people enough to even explain his goals to them, do you seriously believe he would trust anybody but himself to lead the world?
I expressly stated I was not getting into this. Just I have MANY reasons why Obito is trash along with his actions.


So, you agree with his plan, but you also have a better plan than his at the same time? Sounds a lot like you don't agree with it, but you're fine if it happens anyway.



Actually, he's right though. We don't know how it's going to end.
You could say this I suppose, however I still feel more positively about it than negatively.


He hasn't been shown to care for others, truly though. I don't see anything that suggests it's truly for peace. He has the same logic as a dictator. "Others can't be trusted and I'm the only one who can bring peace, oh, and I'll execute the past leaders even those who have done nothing wrong (Gaara)."
Dictator and war are not synonyms. He obviously wants peace.
 
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I expressly stated I was not getting into this. Just I have MANY reasons why Obito is trash along with his action.



You could say this I suppose, however I still feel more positively about it than negatively.



Dictator and war are not synonyms. He obviously wants peace.
You could've just used the thousands of scans where Obito calls himself trash
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