[Theory] How Doffy's powers work+possible weakness+character analysis

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A while ago, before Doflamingo's powers were explained, I made a theory that Doflamingo controlled people through using Haoshoku Haki, and the cutting power was a Devil Fruit power unrelated to the controlling power. However, upon explanation of Doflamingo's powers being the Ito Ito no Mi, it seems my theory was wrong. However, in light of new evidence, I think my theory was on the right track.

It's generally believed that Doflamingo has the ability to attach his strings to the body parts of people, and manipulate their bodies by moving his finger, what finger he moves corresponds to their body movement. However, I don't believe this is entirely accurate. It is. quite frankly, impossible for Doflamingo to control people so intricately just by moving his fingers. He's been able to have Riku draw an arrow and fire it, that alone would require more than ten fingers to do. As we can see here[
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], a single string attached to Riku's guards, further supporting that the general acceptance of Doflamingo's powers just can't be true. It is again demonstrated here[ ] and here[ ]. Dressrosa is an entire country, it's impossible for Doflamingo manipulate this many people all over Dressrosa with ten fingers alone this accurately, especially since his Observation Haki feats haven't been that stressed on and only Enel has shown such a level of Observation.
As seen in this page[ ] and then this page[ ], and later when sitting with his Executives during the Pica voice incident, Doffy is just chilling not using his hands to manipulate, but the chaos is still going on. This basically means that there's absolutely no way Doflamingo manipulates people with his fingers. It's just theatrics that fit into his flamboyant theme.

So how does Doffy control people? Haoshoku Haki. As seen with Luffy and Chinjao's clash, Haoshoku Haki can be imbued like Busoshoku Haki can[ ], and the fact that Doffy damaged Smoker with his powers showed he can imbue Haki into his strings. Haoshoku is the power to dominate the wills of others, so my theory is that Doflamingo imbues Haoshoku Haki into his strings, and can dominate people by "flowing" his Haoshoku directly into their bodies by attaching a string to them and using it as a medium. He can then instill a mental "order" in them, such as "Don't move", "Attack everyone and everything", or "Attack Luffy Bellashit."

This brings to my second and third parts: The weakness and character analysis. Haoshoku Haki can't be improved through training and merely getting stronger, as Rayleigh explained. It grows as you grow as a person, it's directly linked to character. This is where the weakness comes in. I'd like to thank Caliburn for this part. I like the idea that Doflamingo has a split or crack in his personality, the part that desperately wants to be that spoiled brat that always gets his way, and the pirate that understands his reality and embraces it. Until Law and Luffy came along, the latter was predominant, the former suppressed and kept in check. Ever heard of the id, ego and superego? The brat is the id and the pirate is the superego, the pirate keeps the brat in check. However, Law and Luffy are pushing Doffy's buttons. They keep on making things complicated for him. That part of his personality has been well suppressed because Doffy has been getting what he wants through being a pirate. He became King of Dressrosa, emulating the Celestial Dragon royalty he lost and wanted back. He got to be Shichibukai, emulating the Celestial Dragon way of getting away with whatever you want. He has his crew, satisfying his Celestial Dragon way of having people under his command. Being a pirate has mended the crack in his personality by satisfying the brat inside of him through emulating of what the brat wants.

Then Law and Luffy came along. Law and Luffy have been getting around him. Law forced him into a lose-lose scenario, Luffy got around his plan to have him occupied in the Colissem, his factory is under attack, his broker identity was almost revealed, his subordinates have been getting taken out and attacked, his rule on Dressrosa has been compromised, his status as a Shichibukai is being compromised with Fujitora planning to get rid of the Shichibukai as a whole and seeing all his dirty deeds. Basically, all that the pirate superego has been emulating to satisfy the id brat is breaking. He's losing it all little by little, piece by piece. And this is causing the crack to reform. That evening out is starting to slant. But this wasn't really where it started. It started in between Law arriving on Green Bit, when that paper was revealed, and when Law first blackmailed Doffy. It was when Doffy directly used a power of the Celestial Dragons to print a false paper. This wasn't emulating, this was the real deal. This wasn't satisfying a kid with sweet syrup anymore, this was giving him the candy he craved and him wanting more. Doflamingo was able to get around Law's tricks not by being a pirate, not by being a king, not by being a Shichibukai, but full-blown Celestial Dragon pull. This caused the superego to lose grip on the id, he was free now. And with things just plummeting after his Celestial Dragon pull ended, with all his shit falling apart with his statuses, it blew that id up, the brat is back and is struggling to burst free once again. He's gotten a taste of the Celestial Dragon power, and can't just settle anymore. However, the pirate isn't gone, the superego is still trying to tango with the id, this causes friction in his personality. It's what's causing Doffy to start talking about his past. He isn't fully trying to let fodder and Law and Luffy no his past, isn't it weird he's telling his personal details to people he just plans to kill? It's because that's the pirate's, the superego's, way of trying to suppress the id, the brat, he's reasoning with himself subconsciously. This is why he's snapping and having these angry breakdowns. It's also why he can't control Law and Luffy.

A lot of people have been noticing how he isn't controlling Law or Luffy and making them fight each other. It's certainly not because they're too physically strong, Jozu was helpless to his strings pre-skip, and he wasn't even Doffy's focus. Doflamingo can't control them because his character is waning. Bellamy is weak chicken shit to Doffy, even with the crack he can control Bellamy, but not Law and Luffy because they're simply at too high a level, and his character, which is directly tied into his Haoshoku Haki, is waning, causing his HH to wane, reducing his capabilities to control people.

It's a quite long read, I didn't mean it to be this long, but please take the time out to read it, I think it's worth it.
 

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Ugh, Wall of Texthmm

OT: I'm going to disagree with you. Kankuro is able to do this with his puppets (yes, I know it's a different anime) Based on that, the show being an anime, I say the DF power allows him to properly use his strings in an intricate manner.
 

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Ugh, Wall of Texthmm

OT: I'm going to disagree with you. Kankuro is able to do this with his puppets (yes, I know it's a different anime) Based on that, the show being an anime, I say the DF power allows him to properly use his strings in an intricate manner.
Cool, ignore the instances showing just one string attaching to a person.

And no, the logic of one series does not reflect on the other.
 

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it is a pretty nice thread. It would be nice for oda to give king's haki a new attribute, since, in my opinion, king's haki sucks because how it is able to just ko fodders
 

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Nice read bro`\nd really great thoughts going on there, I have to say I like the dual personalityies to DD outlined here and the pirate being the rpt that uses haoshoku makes sense seeing as its the part that endures and picks up the pieces when all has brokendown so it wld indeed b the more spirited part of him but him using the brat for once to hold the fort might indeed break the resolve he has had to build up over the years, this wld b great charecter development and haoshoku Hamilton progression but if its not what Oda will use then oh well it was still a good read and was quite insightful.
 

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Great read. And beautifully done if I may add. But you don't really get how Ids and super egos work... that being neither here nor there great read.
I like the fact that even if this isn't true it gives some more use to hassohaki,
And wouldn't that mean that luffy can push hassohaki back to dd through the strings.
 

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Great read. And beautifully done if I may add. But you don't really get how Ids and super egos work... that being neither here nor there great read.
I like the fact that even if this isn't true it gives some more use to hassohaki,
And wouldn't that mean that luffy can push hassohaki back to dd through the strings.
No, I know what I'm talking about.

Id: The id (Latin for "it")[3] is the unorganized part of the personality structure that contains a human's basic, instinctual drives. Id is the only component of personality that is present from birth.[4] It is the source of our bodily needs, wants, desires, and impulses, particularly our sexual and aggressive drives. The id contains the libido, which is the primary source of instinctual force that is unresponsive to the demands of reality.[5] The id acts according to the "pleasure principle"—the psychic force that motivates the tendency to seek immediate gratification of any impulse[6]—defined as, seeking to avoid pain or unpleasure (not 'displeasure') aroused by increases in instinctual tension.[7] If the mind was solely guided by the id, individuals would find it difficult to wait patiently at a restaurant, while feeling hungry, and would most likely grab food from neighbouring tables.

Celestial Dragons are a perfect allusion to ids. The id is the part of your psyche that seeks immediate gratification on whatever it desires, and works on impulses that don't always make sense. The same way Celestial Dragons seek to be immediately gratified and get whatever they want. As seen with Charloss saying he was bored of a few of his wives and immediately decided another woman was going to replace them, he didn't have a good logical reason, it was mere impulse. What do CD's do when they don't get what they want? Throw friggin' hissy fits. What do they do when they get what they want? Dance around like children, as seen with Charloss.

The only thing I was wrong about was the superego being the balance, it's really the ego.
 

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No, I know what I'm talking about.

Id: The id (Latin for "it")[3] is the unorganized part of the personality structure that contains a human's basic, instinctual drives. Id is the only component of personality that is present from birth.[4] It is the source of our bodily needs, wants, desires, and impulses, particularly our sexual and aggressive drives. The id contains the libido, which is the primary source of instinctual force that is unresponsive to the demands of reality.[5] The id acts according to the "pleasure principle"—the psychic force that motivates the tendency to seek immediate gratification of any impulse[6]—defined as, seeking to avoid pain or unpleasure (not 'displeasure') aroused by increases in instinctual tension.[7] If the mind was solely guided by the id, individuals would find it difficult to wait patiently at a restaurant, while feeling hungry, and would most likely grab food from neighbouring tables.

Celestial Dragons are a perfect allusion to ids. The id is the part of your psyche that seeks immediate gratification on whatever it desires, and works on impulses that don't always make sense. The same way Celestial Dragons seek to be immediately gratified and get whatever they want. As seen with Charloss saying he was bored of a few of his wives and immediately decided another woman was going to replace them, he didn't have a good logical reason, it was mere impulse. What do CD's do when they don't get what they want? Throw friggin' hissy fits. What do they do when they get what they want? Dance around like children, as seen with Charloss.

The only thing I was wrong about was the superego being the balance, it's really the ego.

Yea I know... I was gonna say you meant ego when you said super ego.

The Super Ego would be his own poverty and his willingness to survive. A rich kid who doesn't want to do anything but have the world burn and people serve him. And His own better judgement telling him he needs a means of survival and the Ego ie the compromise would be him being a pirate.
Doesn't have to do much work. Can survive. People serve him.
The rest of it is beautiful I already admitted that and as a society or a culture the Id would be Celestials.

Oh and for the record a lot of people disagree with the ID Ego Super ego model of the brain. Its old and like most of freudians models are just him trying to justify his own freudian slips.

Still a beautifully argued point.
 
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I do think you are overthinking in some parts but i'm inclined to agree.
I mean, it does make sense, it's just a question for me whether i'd like it to be the case or not xD
 
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