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Again your taking my statement to mean Vergo>Luffy...

I mean in terms of Haki not overall fighting capabilities...also I wouldn't say Luffy would own Vergo possibly high/extreme diff him.
imo people overhype Vergo's Haki because he was the first to get full body armament after the TS (aka after Oda decided armament is black)

but even though there were no full body armaments in MF every big name at MF had Haki faaaaaar superior to Vergo's

just because Vergo went full body doesn't mean Luffy's Haki in his Red hawk isn't superior, not to even mention Doflamingo
 
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Really good chapter I'm glad this chapter showed us Luffy isn't going to be able to solo Doflamingo not that he could now considering Law has already helped him.

Another thing that made me wonder was considering how Doflamingo was hyping up Vergo's Haki it makes me think Vergo had even greater Haki than Dolfamingo don't get me wrong no way in hell am I saying Vergo is stronger overall cause Doflamingo would win but in the Haki aspect alone I think Vergo's is better which leads me to the question does anyone think Vergo could have overpowered Luffy's Haki like Doflamingo did this chapter?
It wasn't that surprising that Dofla could overpower his own, but i was more baffled by how easily he did. I do think Vergo could overpower Luffy's haki considering that Caesar who was fighting Luffy's armament was considering Vergo's stronger. But it shouldn't be surprising. Luffy already declared against Hodi that armament isn't his fort. He specializes in conqueror haki however according to Oda in the SBS. I doubt Vergo's armament is above Doflamingo's though because he tanked Diable Jambe better than Vergo or maybe it's just his physical body which is stronger
 

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I think the pwer he was talking was the power to be a world noble, whic is rare since there were only 20 families, so in a world of millions that is rare, and let's not forget, the world is dominated by the Celestial Dragons. Great chapter but why so short, I wanted to keep reading. Doffy just kicked ass, and now Luffy is tied up, Doffy could kill both of them if he wanted right now, but that won't happen, still dat face tho.
That's very likely.
 

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imo people overhype Vergo's Haki because he was the first to get full body armament after the TS (aka after Oda decided armament is black)

but even though there were no full body armaments in MF every big name at MF had Haki faaaaaar superior to Vergo's

just because Vergo went full body doesn't mean Luffy's Haki in his Red hawk isn't superior
Yeah...I was going more by how Doflamingo was describing Vergo's Haki...not by his full body Haki as to me while an impressive feat doesn't make up his Haki. To me the fact Doflamingo thought Vergo's Haki could withstand Law's powers despite knowing what the fruit could do speaks volumes itself.

Bold: Baseless statement...Buggy was a big name. Seriously though Haki wasn't really shown in that war so it's just assuming really on your part, to say they had 'way' better Haki is just a personal opinion. Now don't get me wrong I don't think Vergo had greater Haki than the likes of the Admirals, Whitebeard, Mihawk, Garp etc...but people like Hancock, the other VA's and many others.

I'm not trying to say Luffy's Red Hawk wouldn't hurt Vergo but a full body Haki Vergo I believe could tank it considering Vergo without using Haki was able to tank Sanji's, Law's and Smokers attacks.

It wasn't that surprising that Dofla could overpower his own, but i was more baffled by how easily he did.
To be honest I wasn't actually that surprised I suppose it's because I didn't see Luffy on the same level as a full healthy Doflamingo.

I do think Vergo could overpower Luffy's haki considering that Caesar who was fighting Luffy's armament was considering Vergo's stronger.
I actually agree but for me Doflamingo's statement regarding Vergo's Haki was what made me think this.

But it shouldn't be surprising. Luffy already declared against Hodi that armament isn't his fort.
But in a fight with Vergo you'd have to have a superior Armament to beat him or like in Law's case have a haxxed devil fruit to cut anything.

He specializes in conqueror haki however according to Oda in the SBS. I doubt Vergo's armament is above Doflamingo's though because he tanked Diable Jambe better than Vergo or maybe it's just his physical body which is stronger
You have to remember though Vergo tanked Diable Jambe without using Haki I suppose you could say so did Doflamingo however this doesn't prove who has greater Haki it just proves who has greater endurance in their base forms, I don't know if Doflamingo would endure Counter Shock like Vergo did though in his base form (no Haki).
 
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I actually agree but for me Doflamingo's statement regarding Vergo's Haki was what made me think this.
I don't think Doflamingo's statement was more reliable considering he had no idea about how strong Luffy's haki actually was. It's because that i found Caesar more reliable

But in a fight with Vergo you'd have to have a superior Armament to beat him or like in Law's case have a haxxed devil fruit to cut anything.
No not really. You can overpower armament haki with strong attack power. In Law's case it simply means Luffy can't tank them when he uses maximum output in his attack, but i do think that if you pressure him and don't give him time, he can't cut you. It's for that reason Smoker with weaker armament than Vergo could block his attacks. And Luffy has better speed and observation to predict attacks to boot

You have to remember though Vergo tanked Diable Jambe without using Haki I suppose you could say so did Doflamingo however this doesn't prove who has greater Haki it just proves who has greater endurance in their base forms, I don't know if Doflamingo would endure Counter Shock like Vergo did though in his base form (no Haki).
I'm a believer of the invisible haki being used there. Sanji referred to "mass of iron" when Vergo tanked his attack and i think Doflamingo also used invisible haki against Sanji cause i seriously can't consider he could block a diable jambe technique without a defense, but on the other side he tanked Luffy's one of strongest move yet without armament haki, so who knows? It's unclear if Vergo used haki against counter shock though
 

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Interesting.

DD has always been intriguing, but Oda did an excellent job at developing him, he might even be the best developed one yet.

First as a kid he was the same as all the other Celestial Dragons, thinking everyone and everything is trash that belongs under their feet, not even worthy of breathing the same air. Then he goes into complete denial when his father wants to live a sober live, he can't comprehend the reality of the situation at all. Eventually he is forced to accept his status as what is practically a bum (remember how Oda drew him when he released the child versions of all the Shichibukai), which goes completely against his own nature, but he has no choice other than becoming the pirate Shichibukai Donquixote Doflamingo. However that spoiled, arrogant celestial brat is still inside him. He still wants to be that kid, but the reality forces him to accept being a pirate, so he has to suppress him. So DD in fact has a split personality with one suppressing the other. I imagine it that as a result DD has lots of tics and twitches, especially now as Luffy and Law seem to be pushing his buttons so hard that the celestial kid personality is starting to take over.

Really nice.

as expected dofla whooped them , that guy has tough body for sure he endured redhawk without using hardening :Omg:

luffy lost to him at the CoA battle too, i see a nakama power wining here :eek:h:

what that girl means by saying are you trying to get revolutionary into this war are`nt they trying to take down the world gov ? and she said it to the sec in command either dragon can take 3 admirals at once or the revolutionary has a long way to go
Sabo was fighting Fujitora to protect Luffy. It's not because the Revolutionaries want to take down the WG that are going to attack them whenever they can as the WG can also take them down. If you want to compare this to a challenge, then the RA is the challenger while the WG is the reigning champion which has to be beaten on their own turf. If the RA makes a wrong move, it could be the end of them and attacking an admiral haphazardly isn't the smartest thing to do as that could be considered as an official declaration off war, while for now they're mainly still operating under the grid.
 

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I wonder if Doflamingo has a weakness of some sort? Like, something that'd become a huge advantage to Luffy.

Crocodile had a weakness, in an arc that is very similar to this one. Makes you wonder if things will go in the same direction as in Alabasta or not. Perhaps Luffy will end up being able to see his strings, or sense them, I don't know.
 

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I wonder if Doflamingo has a weakness of some sort? Like, something that'd become a huge advantage to Luffy.

Crocodile had a weakness, in an arc that is very similar to this one. Makes you wonder if things will go in the same direction as in Alabasta or not. Perhaps Luffy will end up being able to see his strings, or sense them, I don't know.
His weakness is all his strings are connected so if he puppets you you can puppet him. Well that's my guess at least.
 

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Is it just me or does Law's jacket look flat in the sixth panel, like he left it? Could he be taking advantage of Doffy's emotional yelling to land a sneak attack?
I don't think Doflamingo's statement was more reliable considering he had no idea about how strong Luffy's haki actually was. It's because that i found Caesar more reliable

No not really. You can overpower armament haki with strong attack power. In Law's case it simply means Luffy can't tank them when he uses maximum output in his attack, but i do think that if you pressure him and don't give him time, he can't cut you. It's for that reason Smoker with weaker armament than Vergo could block his attacks. And Luffy has better speed and observation to predict attacks to boot


I'm a believer of the invisible haki being used there. Sanji referred to "mass of iron" when Vergo tanked his attack and i think Doflamingo also used invisible haki against Sanji cause i seriously can't consider he could block a diable jambe technique without a defense, but on the other side he tanked Luffy's one of strongest move yet without armament haki, so who knows? It's unclear if Vergo used haki against counter shock though
I'm leaning more towards Vergo tanking Sanji's hit with Tekkai. He called it "That iron-like hardening again." I don't see why he'd call Haoshoku by name, but refer to Armament as "That thing."
 

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Maybe something to do with the strings hitting bones, with Luffy being a rubber man... well. They might not affect him.
really makes sense
i think he control people with those lead bullets , he shoots your limbs with it (bullets go inside your bone) and because the bullets are most likely made of strings it`s connected to doflamingo what makes him able to control the man against his will

luffy is a rubber man so his bones are made of rubber too ,his bones are not as hard as a normal bones they will bend Instead of bieng forced to do somthing ,
 

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I wonder if Doflamingo has a weakness of some sort? Like, something that'd become a huge advantage to Luffy.

Crocodile had a weakness, in an arc that is very similar to this one. Makes you wonder if things will go in the same direction as in Alabasta or not. Perhaps Luffy will end up being able to see his strings, or sense them, I don't know.
Technically he has to have a weakness. Law probably knows what it is.
 

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really makes sense
i think he control people with those lead bullets , he shoots your limbs with it (bullets go inside your bone) and because the bullets are most likely made of strings it`s connected to doflamingo what makes him able to control the man against his will

luffy is a rubber man so his bones are made of rubber too ,his bones are not as hard as a normal bones they will bend Instead of bieng forced to do somthing ,
I doubt it, since doing so would leave wounds and have an indicator(victim reacting in pain to the bullet forcing their way in) and none of that happened with Jozu or Sanji.
 

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I wonder if Doflamingo has a weakness of some sort? Like, something that'd become a huge advantage to Luffy.

Crocodile had a weakness, in an arc that is very similar to this one. Makes you wonder if things will go in the same direction as in Alabasta or not. Perhaps Luffy will end up being able to see his strings, or sense them, I don't know.
He has a physical body, Luffy just hit him right in the face. Hence probably him using his string doppelgänger so often, to protect his real body. In essence the string string fruit doesn't have much real defensive properties.
 

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I doubt it, since doing so would leave wounds and have an indicator(victim reacting in pain to the bullet forcing their way in) and none of that happened with Jozu or Sanji.
clearly sanji didnt got controled doflamingo stunned him by wrapping the strings around his limbs i dont know a bout jouzo but king riko and bellamy were crying like girls but may be it`s because he hurt thier feelings not because of thier wounds
 

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clearly sanji didnt got controled doflamingo stunned him by wrapping the strings around his limbs i dont know a bout jouzo but king riko and bellamy were crying like girls but may be it`s because he hurt thier feelings not because of thier wounds
Because they were no wounds. Sanji and Jozu were controlled in the same way Riku and Bellamy were, Doffy just didn't have them move. There are no wounds from Doffy's power, we saw Marines, Riku's guards and citizens get controlled by having strings attach to their heads and necks. If he were using lead bullets to control them, that would have killed them instead.
 

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Because they were no wounds. 1\Sanji and Jozu were controlled in the same way Riku and Bellamy were, Doffy just didn't have them move. 2\There are no wounds from Doffy's power, we saw Marines, Riku's guards and citizens get controlled by having strings attach to their heads and necks. 3\If he were using lead bullets to control them, that would have killed them instead.
1\ clearly no but i am not sure , if you have a solid proof pls show it , 1st case they are stunned second they are controlled there is a differ
2\ its a string bullet yes it should hurt but it`s not a real bullet what make you think there is blood
3\how can you be so sure
 

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1\ clearly no but i am not sure , if you have a solid proof pls show it , 1st case they are stunned second they are controlled there is a differ
2\ its a string bullet yes it should hurt but it`s not a real bullet what make you think there is blood
3\how can you be so sure
1. I'll supply you with the scans later

2. What? First you say lead bullets covered in string, now you're saying bullets made of string? I mean, we have seen Doffy made bullets out of string, but those pierced, those still cause wounds and blood, so either way, you're wrong.

3. Are you shitting me? You want to know how I'm sure lead bullets driving into the skulls of fodder will kill them? Whitebeard got damage from bullets, but nah, fodder taking lead bullets to the head won't even have a wound.
 

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1. I'll supply you with the scans later

2. What? First you say lead bullets covered in string, now you're saying bullets made of string? I mean, we have seen Doffy made bullets out of string, but those pierced, those still cause wounds and blood, so either way, you're wrong.

3. Are you shitting me? You want to know how I'm sure lead bullets driving into the skulls of fodder will kill them? Whitebeard got damage from bullets, but nah, fodder taking lead bullets to the head won't even have a wound.
1\waiting

2\ when did i say that ? by most likely i meant they are attatched to doflamingo cause they are made of strings

3\ did the bullets law took out of his body with the operation and the ones he was shoting on him at the green bit were the same ? (i didnt see wb`s scene so please add it to the scans too)
 
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