Sasuke's Plan is Logically Just

[riley freeman]

Not even close, even if Sasuke ruled the world, as another poster said, what happens when he dies? Society just crumbles and anarchy ensues? Sasuke's plan is extremely flawed, especially when you consider he only had a few hours to come up with this, whereas Madara had years to think up his plan (which still failed).

So you disagree with the U.S method of doing things?

Naruto pretty much got all of the Shinobi world together to fight a common enemy, this hasn't been done before. Now imagine, Sasuke didn't do what he just did. All of the villages were finally getting connected and getting along.

Bro, that's because it's a manga, that would never happen in reality, if you think I'm arguing because I think sasuke's ideal will come to pass then you thought wrong, I know in the end kishi will make naruto's fairy tail ideal come to pass :|

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

So you disagree with the U.S method of doing things?



Bro, that's because it's a manga, that would never happen in reality, if you think I'm arguing because I think sasuke's ideal will come to pass then you thought wrong, I know in the end kishi will make naruto's fairy tail ideal come to pass :|

Yes, but we are talking about what's better in the NV. Not real life and our system now, let alone the U.S is really flawed.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

If the Biju were destroyed long ago then Kaguya's revival would have never happened.

Like Pumpkin Ninja said, had they killed every last Uchiha she wouldn't be revived either, what's your point?

 

[Scooby Doo]

Naruto isn't learning anything, if he was he wouldn't still be saying the same thing over and over again




Hey, if Itachi was still alive, then i'll choose his ideals anytime, but right now, sasuke's ideal is the best available

The shinobi system has to change, everyone agrees on that. But it is already changing! Erasing the kages and being a dictator is not really the best. Not when noone else accepts that- people follow Naruto.

The bijuus are just a small part of the problem-they are not the problem itself. The problem is greed for power- that is what created Kaguya. It was said that she wanted to put an end to wars- yeah, by force. She became a demon. Sasuke's intentions may be honest, but he is becoming like Kaguya. Power corrupts

 

[FoolzBeWeary]

LOL that logic, I'm pretty sure if hitler were alive, you would be on his side



It's the best for now atleast

See that were you believe it is. Were I believe it's the most foolish thing he can do. It doesn't fix the problem. It makes it worse at that.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

The shinobi alliance would have most likely done something regarding the issue of the bijuu. For example, select certain non-power hungry ninja to protect them. The villages are tired of fighting and don't care for the bijuu anymore, and Naruto being the meeting place of the bijuu would have made it even harder to steal them.

OK... but understand that Evil People would still find a way to obtain them! That may be a temerary fix but its not bullet proof.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

So you disagree with the U.S method of doing things?
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The US has a long succession of people to lead if the president dies, Sasuke doesn't.

 

[riley freeman]

Not really, the best choice would be to earn the people's trust (and we all know how people are easily won over by strong people) He could become Hoakge, legitely or simply propose to do away with the Hokage system ( a world government of some sort could be born)

But it's a manga, we need to see them fight, so I guess that's okay-ish

And who said he isn't planning on earning their trust?

The shinobi alliance would have most likely done something regarding the issue of the bijuu. For example, select certain non-power hungry ninja to protect them. The villages are tired of fighting and don't care for the bijuu anymore, and Naruto being the meeting place of the bijuu would have made it even harder to steal them.

Hashirama tried and failed already

 

[Drizzy]

Keeping the Bijuu under his restriction so that no one can manipulate them again sounds fine for sasuke, but killing the five kage to start a "Revolution" is where I think is just really stupid. Too bad Kakashi's eyes wore off, would have kicked Sasuke's ass there and then instead.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

And who said he isn't planning on earning their trust?



Hashirama tried and failed already

The villages were the opposite of what they are now during his time.

Keeping the Bijuu under his restriction so that no one can manipulate them again sounds fine for sasuke, but killing the five kage to start a "Revolution" is where I think is just really stupid. Too bad Kakashi's eyes wore off, would have kicked Sasuke's ass there and then instead.

I've never seen a mod state his opinion on a character. You're awesome! But he wants to kill the Bijuu later as well.

 

[raziel777]

Would you rather have to deal with a man with a knife or deal with a man possessing a gun... which is safer?

an evil shinobi with Ninjutsu or and evil shinobi with Biju?

I am not saying that erasing the Biju will stop evil but make evil containable.

I'd rather not deal with any of them. Naruto or the rest of the worl for what matters just learned that united they are stronger, they have come to realize how similar they were. How much pain there was on each side. It was a good start not to total world peace but to a safer world.

Conventional wars can be pretty deadly too, look at the 2 World Wars, no weapon of mass destruction were used yet look at the casualties.

 

[xxSAGExx]

OK but if the Biju didn't exist and were destroyed long ago would the Uchiha's be able to use their eye powers and control them?

also With the Senjus power complete control of the juubi would be improbable. But still that could have been easily prevented.

Well that all goes back to Kaguya eating the fruit in the first place and passing down chakra, had she not ate the fruit then no Bijuus and no ninjas. The Senjus didn't have control over Bijuus, that was an ability Hashirama had, he had Bijuus 2-9 and gave all but Kurama to other villages in order to try and create peace by not making any village feel like the other villages have more power and might attack them. Bijuus are living mass of chakra, living creatures that only wanted to be left alone. It was humans that bugged them so why should the Bijuus be the ones to pay? Get rid of humans and boom no conflict in their world. Humans are destined to destroy themselves, that's a real life truth as well and it's something both Madara and the Sage said in the war arc.

Madara was planning on doing something about the humans not the Bijuus, he only used the Bijuus. Kaguya wanted to take back all of the chakra and Madara already said people use chakra to fight when it was a way to connect to others but all they do is fight. So what makes what Sasuke is doing any different? Just because he's blaming the Bijuus and Kages? He still want to destroy the world and rebuild it in his image.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Like Pumpkin Ninja said, had they killed every last Uchiha she wouldn't be revived either, what's your point?

OK but Uchiha are not the only people who are capable of Using the Biju!... Their are other sealing jitsu that can do the same... also Mokuton can too. also without Hashi Cells complete control is still improbable.... it is not just Uchiha that can do it.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

OK but Uchiha are not the only people who are capable of Using the Biju!... Their are other sealing jitsu that can do the same... also Mokuton can too. also without Hashi Cells complete control is still improbable.... it is not just Uchiha that can do it.

...I said Kaguya wouldn't have been revived, not that Uchiha are the only ones that could use bijuu. Besides, only Uchiha could handle rinnegan.

Edit: Also, you need rinnegan to activate IT.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

OK but Uchiha are not the only people who are capable of Using the Biju!... Their are other sealing jitsu that can do the same... also Mokuton can too. also without Hashi Cells complete control is still improbable.... it is not just Uchiha that can do it.

Only Uchiha have managed to gather all of them while having evil intent.

 

[BLAZE]

Keeping the Bijuu under his restriction so that no one can manipulate them again sounds fine for sasuke, but killing the five kage to start a "Revolution" is where I think is just really stupid. Too bad Kakashi's eyes wore off, would have kicked Sasuke's ass there and then instead.

Yes becoz Sasuke dosen't know they r cooperating unlike previous kages

 

[riley freeman]

it's for your own good you stop. You haven't made Sasuke's fail logic look any better by saying it was better than a way that has already begun to show results.

I don't think it's right, but it's the best for now

Yes, but we are talking about what's better in the NV. Not real life and our system now, let alone the U.S is really flawed.

In that case, I agree, I was also getting tired of this

The shinobi system has to change, everyone agrees on that. But it is already changing! Erasing the kages and being a dictator is not really the best. Not when noone else accepts that- people follow Naruto.

The bijuus are just a small part of the problem-they are not the problem itself. The problem is greed for power- that is what created Kaguya. It was said that she wanted to put an end to wars- yeah, by force. She became a demon. Sasuke's intentions may be honest, but he is becoming like Kaguya. Power corrupts

Yes, right now they follow naruto and there would be peace for a long time, but it would be temporary, but erasing the failures of the system will last forever

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Yes becoz Sasuke dosen't know they r cooperating unlike previous kages

So he's ignorant of the world. That just gives him even less of a reason to be leader.

 

[AzureCicada]

Sasuke's Plan and Logical should only exist together in a sentence when there's a NOT between them :leaf:

Its so heavily flawed, short-termed and leaves so many factors like the fact, normal people might not be to thrilled a rouge ninja who aligned himself with Oro the psychopath, left his village and willing to murder their current leaders to achieve want he decided is best, is now wanting to rule over them lololol

Sasuke is setting up a revolution to his revolution lol

 

[raziel777]

And who said he isn't planning on earning their trust?



Hashirama tried and failed already

I fail to see how killing their national heroes is going to earn Sasuke any trust point