Sasuke's Plan is Logically Just

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Exactly my point... a murder with a gun or a powerful weapon will take many lives and be hard to eliminate... a weak murderer weaponless... will cause less chaos and be easily taken out and won't cause that much of a problem.

I guess you haven't heard how much wounded a man did with just a knife. And it's a ninja world, where one guy can erase mountains away.. Let's say the bijuus disappear, what about the Kage ? No matter how you call it, he's planning to murder people, head of Villages... He's an idiot for thinking this is the way to go. They'd just elect new Kages. He'll keep killing them off too ? Or he's going to rule the world ? What happens when his 60 years of lifespan left is gone ? His work just crumble and the world will be a very dark place...

I like Sasuke just as much as I like Naruto but I can see when his reasoning is weak as f
 

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The simple truth is that Sasuke is no different then every other stereotypical action villain, he wants to take over the world, kill everyone who gets in his way, and justifies it by saying that he will bring peace.

I recall Loki from The Avengers making the exact same argument.
 

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But you can say that for the Uchihas too....the Bijuus hated humans because they only saw them as weapons but they only wanted to be left alone. I know it wasn't more people than Uchihas that wanted to use Bijuus as weapons but who are the ones that successfully gathered them up to use as weapons? Uchihas who have the eye power to control them. I'm using your logic when I said the Uchiha thing, I personally don't believe all Uchihas should pay for what some of them did just like I don't think Bijuus should pay for what power hungry ninjas do.

Also Bijuus more than likely would only be revived some time later. Minato reason for not letting Kushina seal Kurama back inside her to die with her was that Kurama would just revive some time in the future and it could be dangerous if he doesn't have a host plus it would mess up the power balance between nations since the other nations have Bijuus.

None of the BS that currently is happening wouldn't happen if people were like Naruto by the end of the Pein arc.
OK but if the Biju didn't exist and were destroyed long ago would the Uchiha's be able to use their eye powers and control them?

also With the Senjus power complete control of the juubi would be improbable. But still that could have been easily prevented.
 

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I'm blaming the ppl who maintained the bijuu but if they were not there it would solve so many problems tho no wouldn't it? The only thing it wouldn't fix is madras but if obito was there when madara was dying then he die and obito have no reason for tsuki no mi the cycle of hatred was started a while ago but bijuu eliminated hypothetically there would be no cycle of hatred to this point where sasuke wants to kill kages. Everyone has a part to all of this the kages some not all uchiha and the whole ninja system

No it wouldn't, the world was messed up enough prior to their existence that Kaguya ate fruit from the God Tree to end it. The world was messed up enough in Hashirama and Madara's time that Konoha had to be founded (and that was before people used the bijuu). If anything, the world was crappier before people started using them.
 

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So if they weren't uchihas, the violence would have decreased?? lol nice logic



It's the only logically choice bro and he's ideals aren't even similar to danzo's
Yes, because of the fact that these guys are blessed with power from the start. They seek war, easily fooled and most of all, they hunger for more power. Lets notforget that these people have unstable thinking, switching from good to bad back to back. Their goals changes as they gain new found power. If it weren't for their jealousy, none of these could've happened. And yes, if they weren't uchihas, the voilence will be low. In fact, if the Uchihas didn't exist, the voilence will be lesser. People with more power are mostly corrupt. Itachi realized this and killed the Uchihas for the sake of not starting another war.
 

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if you don't want to accept the ending that the reasonable ppl know will happen with or w/o Sasuke's cooperation, now is the time to drop the manga. It'll spare you a lot of rage and angst when Sasuke's inevitable defeat comes.

Thank u kishi
but unlike u i read the manga only for fun so no raging or angst from my side Lol
 
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Naruto isn't learning anything, if he was he wouldn't still be saying the same thing over and over again
if he didn't learn anything, practically the whole ninja world wouldn't be falling over itself to put their lives on the line for him.




more like the dumbest available. Naruto managed to do just fine w/o Sasuke putting his 2 cents in. This is just Sasuke showcasing his inferiority complex for T7 again, simple as that.

if you don't want to accept the ending that the reasonable ppl know will happen with or w/o Sasuke's cooperation, now is the time to drop the manga. It'll spare you a lot of rage and angst when Sasuke's inevitable defeat comes.

So you put down sasuke's plan but agree with naruto's? well I'm done
 

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I guess you haven't heard how much wounded a man did with just a knife. And it's a ninja world, where one guy can erase mountains away.. Let's say the bijuus disappear, what about the Kage ? No matter how you call it, he's planning to murder people, head of Villages... He's an idiot for thinking this is the way to go. They'd just elect new Kages. He'll keep killing them off too ? Or he's going to rule the world ? What happens when his 60 years of lifespan left is gone ? His work just crumble and the world will be a very dark place...

I like Sasuke just as much as I like Naruto but I can see when his reasoning is weak as f

Would you rather have to deal with a man with a knife or deal with a man possessing a gun... which is safer?

an evil shinobi with Ninjutsu or and evil shinobi with Biju?

I am not saying that erasing the Biju will stop evil but make evil containable.
 

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It's the best choice there is

Not even close, even if Sasuke ruled the world, as another poster said, what happens when he dies? Society just crumbles and anarchy ensues? Sasuke's plan is extremely flawed, especially when you consider he only had a few hours to come up with this, whereas Madara had years to think up his plan (which still failed).
 

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Naruto pretty much got all of the Shinobi world together to fight a common enemy, this hasn't been done before. Now imagine, Sasuke didn't do what he just did. All of the villages were finally getting connected and getting along.
 

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Yes, because of the fact that these guys are blessed with power from the start. They seek war, easily fooled and most of all, they hunger for more power. Lets notforget that these people have unstable thinking, switching from good to bad back to back. Their goals changes as they gain new found power. If it weren't for their jealousy, none of these could've happened. And yes, if they weren't uchihas, the voilence will be low. In fact, if the Uchihas didn't exist, the voilence will be lesser. People with more power are mostly corrupt. Itachi realized this and killed the Uchihas for the sake of not starting another war.

LOL that logic, I'm pretty sure if hitler were alive, you would be on his side

By killing the kages that will breed a massive amount of hate right off the bat. That is not logical choice at all.

It's the best for now atleast
 

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It's the best choice there is

Not really, the best choice would be to earn the people's trust (and we all know how people are easily won over by strong people) He could become Hoakge, legitely or simply propose to do away with the Hokage system ( a world government of some sort could be born)

But it's a manga, we need to see them fight, so I guess that's okay-ish
 

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You're point being? Kaguya didn't have bijuu power either, and she was even harder to kill. Face it, you're wrong, and the world was bad enough prior to Hagoromo's time that Kaguya felt she needed to violate the Shinju and gain power to stop it. Really think bijuu are the source of the problem? Think again.

If the Biju were destroyed long ago then Kaguya's revival would have never happened.
 

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The shinobi alliance would have most likely done something regarding the issue of the bijuu. For example, select certain non-power hungry ninja to protect them. The villages are tired of fighting and don't care for the bijuu anymore, and Naruto being the meeting place of the bijuu would have made it even harder to steal them.
 

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Naruto pretty much got all of the Shinobi world together to fight a common enemy, this hasn't been done before. Now imagine, Sasuke didn't do what he just did. All of the villages were finally getting connected and getting along.
Bull$#!t
Obito did
 

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Naruto isn't learning anything, if he was he wouldn't still be saying the same thing over and over again

So you put down sasuke's plan but agree with naruto's? well I'm done
it's for your own good you stop. You haven't made Sasuke's fail logic look any better by saying it was better than a way that has already begun to show results.
 
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