Sasuke's Plan is Logically Just

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I said its not 8 or 9 tails fault it is the Evil Peoples fault! I said that long ago bro.

also It is really sad but the only way to keep the Biju away from evil is to erase them its that simple.

no Biju=no power for evil= containment of evil= peace or an eviless society.

The bijus existence allows evil to obtain immense power as displayed in last 100 chapters or so
You don't eliminate hate by eliminating power. If you take away a murderer's gun he'll still find a way to kill, regardless.
 

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A Revolution is done by the people. Sasuke is just being a selfish ass. How do you think the Village will react after he murders their beloved leaders after the nations just fought side by side for the 1st time ever ? You think they'll accept him ? He'll just cause further hatred, ruling by force is his only choice and someday someone would stab him in the back or poison his food. He's acting like a kid, spouting big shallow words.
 

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If he off the bat said he is going to kill. That is already a sign that it's bad. You can't solve anything by killing right off the bat. I think he should have learned that already with his past actions.

though what he said to kakashi and sakura and didn't look like he had anything against them
U can't but this is the method shinobi and the system adopts so it can end dat way
can't really answer that at current moment of manga
 

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Not even close, he's just turning into Madara, the only difference is he has a different way of approaching peace.

I'm pretty sure he isn't don't this for revenge, which is what the curse of hatred makes you do

And Sasuke killed Samurais. He just trapped the beasts into CT satellites by paralysing them first and
is about to kill everyone on his way and take everything by force.

Why? Because he just feels like it.
But sure you are free to wank justify him when there is literally no difference against them.

Either way I'm outta here.​

Yes, compare kids with samurais, that makes sense. and that sasuke isn't this sasuke
 

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I said its not 8 or 9 tails fault it is the Evil Peoples fault! I said that long ago bro.

also It is really sad but the only way to keep the Biju away from evil is to erase them its that simple.

no Biju=no power for evil= containment of evil= peace or an eviless society.

The bijus existence allows evil to obtain immense power as displayed in last 100 chapters or so

No they don't, I don't get why you can't comprehend this. People killed each other in other ways long before the bijuu even existed, so much so that Kaguya used IT, so, no, them dying wouldn't magically solve everything. As I said, you're targeting the victims as the source of the problem, and not the aggressors, it's like blaming Jews for the holocost.
 

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A Revolution is done by the people. Sasuke is just being a selfish ass. How do you think the Village will react after he murders their beloved leaders after the nations just fought side by side for the 1st time ever ? You think they'll accept him ? He'll just cause further hatred, ruling by force is his only choice and someday someone would stab him in the back or poison his food. He's acting like a kid, spouting big shallow words.
They won't listen because he has a cool character design, replace Sasuke's design with Danzo and he becomes hated.
 

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You don't eliminate hate by eliminating power. If you take away a murderer's gun he'll still find a way to kill, regardless.

Exactly my point... a murder with a gun or a powerful weapon will take many lives and be hard to eliminate... a weak murderer weaponless... will cause less chaos and be easily taken out and won't cause that much of a problem.
 

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Exactly my point... a murder with a gun or a powerful weapon will take many lives and be hard to eliminate... a weak murderer weaponless... will cause less chaos and be easily taken out and won't cause that much of a problem.
No, they will find other ways to fight, remember before the bijuu existed, during Kaguya's time? Everyone was still fighting then. There was still war.
 

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Naruto just got through saying a while ago that he desires everybody's cooperation. Naruto actually learned things from past conversations and others' mistakes.
guess you skimmed right over the part where the bijuu made it clear in no uncertain terms to ppl with good enough comprehension skills that the world had nothing to fear from them U_U

Naruto isn't learning anything, if he was he wouldn't still be saying the same thing over and over again


If that's trolling to you...it's just a fact.

And yeah it does matter, considering that Itachi had the reasoning of a kage at age 7. Sasuke is 17 and still doesnt get what does it take to be a hokage Lol

Hey, if Itachi was still alive, then i'll choose his ideals anytime, but right now, sasuke's ideal is the best available
 

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guess you skimmed right over the part where the bijuu made it clear in no uncertain terms to ppl with good enough comprehension skills that the world had nothing to fear from them U_U
yeah ;like everone in that world will be naruto aka titular shonen protagonist
 

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No they don't, I don't get why you can't comprehend this. People killed each other in other ways long before the bijuu even existed, so much so that Kaguya used IT, so, no, them dying wouldn't magically solve everything. As I said, you're targeting the victims as the source of the problem, and not the aggressors, it's like blaming Jews for the holocost.

The holocaust happened because hitle was given POWER and used that power for evil.

also yes their will ALWAYS be murders but at least they don't have Biju power and run around destroying villages and thousand of people... and they can be killed easily.... If the evil people are weak then they can be easily contained and won't be a problem... of they have immense power then they will cause immense damage and will be nearly impossible to kill Cough Cough Madara... cough cough Obito
 

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A Revolution is done by the people. Sasuke is just being a selfish ass. How do you think the Village will react after he murders their beloved leaders after the nations just fought side by side for the 1st time ever ? You think they'll accept him ? He'll just cause further hatred, ruling by force is his only choice and someday someone would stab him in the back or poison his food. He's acting like a kid, spouting big shallow words.

Agreed, but that's the most logical choice available in naruto right now
 

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though what he said to kakashi and sakura and didn't look like he had anything against them
U can't but this is the method shinobi and the system adopts so it can end dat way
can't really answer that at current moment of manga

Will I guess we come to the point in this debate were it's comes down to what each of use believe.
 

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You said no Uchiha were responsible, well, they're fate was sealed by Madara and Obito's actions, sure, I blame Danzo as well, but Uchiha started the cycle. Not to mention, you're essentially blaming the bijuu for being alive.

I'm blaming the ppl who maintained the bijuu but if they were not there it would solve so many problems tho no wouldn't it? The only thing it wouldn't fix is madras but if obito was there when madara was dying then he die and obito have no reason for tsuki no mi the cycle of hatred was started a while ago but bijuu eliminated hypothetically there would be no cycle of hatred to this point where sasuke wants to kill kages. Everyone has a part to all of this the kages some not all uchiha and the whole ninja system
 

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If the Biju were gone Sasuke would have never got bees tenticle

If they would have killed the Biju LONG ago then NONE of the current BS would happen.

But you can say that for the Uchihas too....the Bijuus hated humans because they only saw them as weapons but they only wanted to be left alone. I know it wasn't more people than Uchihas that wanted to use Bijuus as weapons but who are the ones that successfully gathered them up to use as weapons? Uchihas who have the eye power to control them. I'm using your logic when I said the Uchiha thing, I personally don't believe all Uchihas should pay for what some of them did just like I don't think Bijuus should pay for what power hungry ninjas do.

Also Bijuus more than likely would only be revived some time later. Minato reason for not letting Kushina seal Kurama back inside her to die with her was that Kurama would just revive some time in the future and it could be dangerous if he doesn't have a host plus it would mess up the power balance between nations since the other nations have Bijuus.

None of the BS that currently is happening wouldn't happen if people were like Naruto by the end of the Pein arc.
 

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No, they will find other ways to fight, remember before the bijuu existed, during Kaguya's time? Everyone was still fighting then. There was still war.
I am saying that yes their was and will ALWAYS be evil but
If you let the evil get power then it won't be war your worried about... it will be saving the entire world! The evil is easier to contain when they don't posses super weapons...

for example... the US was worried about a nuclear war because enemy nations had Super Weapons... so a treaty was made to have the nations Destroy their Super Weapons to prevent mass destruction.

same with Biju... they should be destroyed to prevent mass destruction.
 

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The holocaust happened because hitle was given POWER and used that power for evil.

also yes their will ALWAYS be murders but at least they don't have Biju power and run around destroying villages and thousand of people... and they can be killed easily.... If the evil people are weak then they can be easily contained and won't be a problem... of they have immense power then they will cause immense damage and will be nearly impossible to kill Cough Cough Madara... cough cough Obito
You're point being? Kaguya didn't have bijuu power either, and she was even harder to kill. Face it, you're wrong, and the world was bad enough prior to Hagoromo's time that Kaguya felt she needed to violate the Shinju and gain power to stop it. Really think bijuu are the source of the problem? Think again.
 

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Naruto isn't learning anything, if he was he wouldn't still be saying the same thing over and over again
if he didn't learn anything, practically the whole ninja world wouldn't be falling over itself to put their lives on the line for him.




Hey, if Itachi was still alive, then i'll choose his ideals anytime, but right now, sasuke's ideal is the best available
more like the dumbest available. Naruto managed to do just fine w/o Sasuke putting his 2 cents in. This is just Sasuke showcasing his inferiority complex for T7 again, simple as that.

yeah ;like everone in that world will be naruto aka titular shonen protagonist
if you don't want to accept the ending that the reasonable ppl know will happen with or w/o Sasuke's cooperation, now is the time to drop the manga. It'll spare you a lot of rage and angst when Sasuke's inevitable defeat comes.
 
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