MS Kakashi or MS Itachi

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  • Itachi

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  • Kakashi (1 eye)

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Braiyan

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Kakashi wins. Clone feints, Raiton clones, Suiton techniques and hiding like a mole provide good counters to Itachi's arsenal. He also has no answer for Kamui.
 

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Get warped by Kamui just as easily as Gedo Mazo's arm, Gudodamas and the Juubi's chakra arms.

why would a susano'o arm get warped if it instantly appears in kakashis face & crushes his head?

this is a 1 vs 1match thread, not an ambush snipe, in support of naruto or the alliance
 
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why would a susano'o arm get warped if it instantly appears in kakashis face & crushes his head?

Where is your proof that Itachi can manifest a Susano'o arm, wrap it around Kakashi, and crush his head before he can do anything, when he has been known to use Kamui to react to things such as Sasuke's Susano'o arrows, a SM Rasengan being slammed into his chest before it could damage him, and so quickly that he was able to fool Obito into thinking he poofed a Naruto clone before it could be warped?
 

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Where is your proof that Itachi can manifest a Susano'o arm, wrap it around Kakashi, and crush his head before he can do anything, when he has been known to use Kamui to react to things such as Sasuke's Susano'o arrows, a SM Rasengan being slammed into his chest before it could damage him, and so quickly that he was able to fool Obito into thinking he poofed a Naruto clone before it could be warped?

susano'o is just as instant as kamui & any other doujutsu of that set.

even if it was ''slower'', susanoo has three arms, so if kakashi warps 1, the other will kill him

again, naruto isn't helping him here ITT
 

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susano'o is just as instant as kamui & any other doujutsu of that set.

Prove it.

even if it was ''slower'', susanoo has three arms, so if kakashi warps 1, the other will kill him

When has Itachi ever manifested 3 Susano'o limbs without manifesting the higher levels of Susano'o?

again, naruto isn't helping him here ITT

None of the feats that I have listed involved Naruto helping Kakashi in any way to use Kamui.
 

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Prove it.
sure...

When has Itachi ever manifested 3 Susano'o limbs without manifesting the higher levels of Susano'o?
he made arms only when he 1st met sasuke in the forest Edo & vs Kabuto...and that's how susano'o works.
the user can manifest it in parts & stages.



None of the feats that I have listed involved Naruto helping Kakashi in any way to use Kamui.
no, all of his kamui feats in the war arc have help, every single 1 of them
 

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So, where is your proof that "susano'o is just as instant as kamui & any other doujutsu of that set"?

he made arms only when he 1st met sasuke in the forest Edo & vs Kabuto...and that's how susano'o works.

And in all of those instances he only ever manifested one arm. You're arguing that Itachi manifests another Susano'o arm while in the process of getting the first arm warped when there's nothing indicating he can do so without upgrading his Susano'o to a higher stage. Nevermind the fact that Kakashi could just warp that limb away as well.

no, all of his kamui feats in the war arc have help, every single 1 of them

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And of course there's those that happen outside the war, like Kakashi warping Sasuke's Susano'o arrows, and warping away Deidara's explosion.
 
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So, where is your proof that "susano'o is just as instant as kamui & any other doujutsu of that set"?



And in all of those instances he only ever manifested one arm. You're arguing that Itachi manifests another Susano'o arm while in the process of getting the first arm warped when there's nothing indicating he can do so without upgrading his Susano'o to a higher stage. Nevermind the fact that Kakashi could just warp that limb away as well.



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And of course there's those that happen outside the war, like Kakashi warping Sasuke's Susano'o arrows, and warping away Deidara's explosion.
the 1st link naruto is helping him
the 2nd link its naruto again
the 3rd is in defense of 1 attack(as well as sasukes arrow), susano'o can instantly deliver at least 3
the 4th is naruto again.
 

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the 1st link naruto is helping him

To land an attack on Obito within the Kamui dimension, which is irrelevant here seeing this is Kakashi vs Itachi and not Kakashi vs Obito. Kamui did what it always does, warp what Kakashi was focusing on, which in this case will be the Susano'o limb. Naruto had absolutely no effect on what Kakashi's Kamui does.

the 2nd link its naruto again

How exactly did Naruto contribute to Kakashi warping a kunai?

the 3rd is in defense of 1 attack(as well as sasukes arrow),

And Kakashi will be defending himself from the Susano'o limb, just like he defended himself against the Susano'o arrows.

susano'o can instantly deliver at least 3

This is the third time you have asserted that Itachi can "instantly" manifest three Susano'o limbs without using a higher stage of Susano'o, and you have yet to show proof of it.

the 4th is naruto again.

See response to the first link.
 

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To land an attack on Obito within the Kamui dimension, which is irrelevant here seeing this is Kakashi vs Itachi and not Kakashi vs Obito. Kamui did what it always does, warp what Kakashi was focusing on, which in this case will be the Susano'o limb. Naruto had absolutely no effect on what Kakashi's Kamui does.
oh, so U realize just posting panels of kakashi fighting w/ naruto has no relevance ITT? good...

How exactly did Naruto contribute to Kakashi warping a kunai?
how does a kunai relate to warping a trio of targets?


And Kakashi will be defending himself from the Susano'o limb, just like he defended himself against the Susano'o arrows.
nah, this is a different susano'o & user


This is the third time you have asserted that Itachi can "instantly" manifest three Susano'o limbs without using a higher stage of Susano'o, and you have yet to show proof of it.
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well its pretty instant, so...
 

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oh, so U realize just posting panels of kakashi fighting w/ naruto has no relevance ITT? good...

It does when those same panels support the argument that Kakashi will be able to warp Itachi's Susano'o limb in much the same way that he warped his targets in said panels.

how does a kunai relate to warping a trio of targets?

Fourth time you have asserted that Itachi can manifest three Susano'o limbs without showing any proof.

nah, this is a different susano'o & user

You're right. Thus Kakashi will be able to warp Itachi's Susano'o limb even easier seeing that it is slower than a Susano'o arrow.

well its pretty instant, so...

Yet you have shown no proof that Kakashi will not be able to react to it.
 

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U know Itachi beats MS kakashi in base(w/o susano'o) right?

In other words, you have no rebuttal for my arguments. And thus what I said before still stands, which means Itachi has no answer for Kamui. Concession accepted.
 

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In other words, you have no rebuttal for my arguments. And thus what I said before still stands, which means Itachi has no answer for Kamui. Concession accepted.
U concede?

Concession accepted.
 
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