1. Read the different translations, the whole reference is to MAdara at VOTE fight. Sasuke can't say they equal or are above Madara isns trength either.
I've read the VIZ, *********** and Mangapanda. They all say the same thing, and they all mean the same thing. That Sasuke armored Susanoo onto Kurama just how Madara armored Susanoo onto Kurama. Implying that it meant anything else is nothing but an attempt to rewrite the manga to favor your argument.
2. VOTE Kurama and Madara have bigger feats. Unless you can show me Sasuke + Naruto's combo actually cutting 6 mountains in half or atleast be that powerful.. oh wait you can't. But you want to make bs assumptions they are more powerful.
Yeah, no, they don't. Madara cuts Mountains with his Susanoo. Naruto creates Bijuu Dama
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Full Kurama's singular Bijuu Dama was nowhere near the size of the one Naruto created in that panel. That is all without Sage Mode of course,, which greatly increases the strength of his jutsu. Haven't even factored Sasuke's PS in yet, which is stronger than Madara's due to Naruto's Senjutsu boosting it to another level.
Saying that Full Kurama armored with Susanoo has better feats than BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke together is laughable at best when the manga shows otherwise.
What's BS, is that you think Base Hashirama beats Naruto when he can literally counter every move he has. What's BS, is you implying that a Bijuu is stronger than its Jin. What's BS, is you implying that Half Kurama and BM Naruto are the same thing, when that logically, and by the manga, makes no sense.
3. -sigh-. Dude understand we are talking about POWER, not usage of that power.. If we talk about usage of the power, Vote Madara smashes BSM Naruto.
Usage of that power translates to power here, since what Madara showed with Kurama at the Valley of the End is all he's ever going to be able to show when using Kurama. That's his full power and nothing is going to change that. Stop trying to imply that a Bijuu is stronger than that Bijuu's Perfect Jinchuuriki, it makes no sense.
4. Madara's Perfect Susanoo > Sasuke's non-sage powered Susanoo. Feats to prove otherwise please.
Never said that it wasn't. I said its not too far off. Unless you can show me where the rest of Madara's Susanoo were shown to be tiers above Sasuke's Susanoo versions, then PS is no different, and with a boost from Senjutsu, it goes above.
5. Full kurama = has chakra only comparable to Hashirama... Half kurama isn't even on his level. Again, in power Full kurama > half kurama.
Except we aren't talking about Half Kurama. Read the manga, my posts and your argument again to realize that you aren't making sense.
BM Naruto is not the same as Half Kurama. His feats are much better, and its been stated and shown that Jins perform better than Bijuu. Fact.
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it has been stated jinchuriki > Bijuu in a fight, not in power...
. loll. And also, the reference has only been to Juubi's jinchuriki. Furthermore,
Madara did act like the jinchuriki at VOTE.
@bold: Lol, where?
Juubi's Jinchuuriki is still a Jinchuuriki. It was stated that because he was the Jin, Obito was able to focus its power. Same principle goes for every Jinchuuriki. Feats agree as well. Claiming "Juubi's Jin only" isn't an argument.
@underlined: Lol. When you can show me Madara sealing it into himself, then we can say he was anything close to a Jinchuuriki or acting as one. He controlled it using his Sharingan, nothing like a Jinchuuriki.
7. Show me speed difference.. listing different phases doesn't prove your point..
Speed? Lol. That wasn't even what I was getting at.
Kurama Mode BSM Naruto>>Kurama Mode Naruto>>Normal BM Naruto.
Madara slapping away a Naruto clone who used a Mini Bijuu Dama doesn't mean he'll do the same to the original Naruto, in his Kurama Mode, using a stronger attack. Lets stop with the trash logic.
8. Hashirama can beat BSM Naruto mid-high diff. No sage mode required.
Hashirama gets wrecked without Sage Mode. None of your points actually prove anything let alone that Hashirama beats him without Sage Mode, considering that most of these points are outright false, or just don't make sense.
