Pre-Hagoromo Naruto (BSM) vs. Hashirama.

[Otibo]

That guy was actually saying foot speed is faster than instant teleportation. He should be posting that shit on the fan fiction section lmao.

When did i ever say that you lying tard, i said ftg is instant but once you ftg you have to rely on your own speed.

 

[KingHashirama]

YES OMG YOU STOMPED ME, yes idiot because falling speed and actually moving is the same thing.

-sigh-, this is the same idiot who believe shunshin = attacking speed, yet spouts ftg=/= attacking speed

shunshin aka "blitz" =/= attacking speed.

That was Naruto's attacking speed, whether you like it or not. . Get proofs of an instant attacking speed, and you ahve a reasonable argument.

 

[Otibo]

-sigh-, this is the same idiot who believe shunshin = attacking speed, yet spouts ftg=/= attacking speed

shunshin aka "blitz" =/= attacking speed.

That was Naruto's attacking speed, whether you like it or not. . Get proofs of an instant attacking speed, and you ahve a reasonable argument.

Naruto uses his own speed he doesn't use shushin, so now you are just making things up and saying that i said them. It doesnt get more pathetic than that. Any retard that went to school can tell you that falling would not equate to movement speed.

 

[Demonic.]

When did i ever say that you lying tard, i said ftg is instant but once you ftg you have to rely on your own speed.

It's still faster than foot speed you idiot. Minato > Raikage in speed because of FTG. Dumbass.

 

[KingHashirama]

Naruto uses his own speed he doesn't use shushin, so now you are just making things up and saying that i said them. It doesnt get more pathetic than that. Any retard that went to school can tell you that falling would not equate to movement speed.

sorry but that thing you call "his own speed" is shunshin. =].

Furthermore it was Naruto who believed he should use his high speed to attack from the air and not the ground.. so call him an idiot will ya.

 

[Otibo]

That guy was actually saying foot speed is faster than instant teleportation. He should be posting that shit on the fan fiction section lmao.



I'm going to say this in the nicest way possible. FTG is instant. nothing is faster than instant. Minato and Tobirama were hailed as the fastest in their generation because of their FTG. As fast as Naruto is, he's not instant. Madara with Senjutsu already reacted to FTG, and Madara without Sage Mode already reacted/blitzd Naruto.

OMG dude what do you not understand, ftg is INSTANT but once you teleport to your opponent, You rely on your own attack speed. Yu are now saying madara reacted to instant attacks which is not possible and ridiculous

 

[Otibo]

sorry but that thing you call "his own speed" is shunshin. =].

Furthermore it was Naruto who believed he should use his high speed to attack from the air and not the ground.. so call him an idiot will ya.

shunshin is the body flicker technique, it's an actual jutsu. Naruto does not use that at all.

 

[Demonic.]

OMG dude what do you not understand, ftg is INSTANT but once you teleport to your opponent, You rely on your own attack speed. Yu are now saying madara reacted to instant attacks which is not possible and ridiculous

Raikage : fastest with continuous foot speed

Minato: fastest with FTG instant teleportation

Who is faster? Raikage admitted inferiority to Minato in speed.

Your counter?

shunshin is the body flicker technique, it's an actual jutsu. Naruto does not use that at all.

Body flicker means fast movement. Keep embarrassing yourself.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Hashirama rapes BSM nardo

 

[Demonic.]

Hashirama rapes BSM nardo

This coming from a Hashirama hater.

@ Otibo, take notes. You were making my head hurt.

 

[Otibo]

Raikage : fastest with continuous foot speed

Minato: fastest with FTG instant teleportation

Who is faster? Raikage admitted inferiority to Minato in speed.

Your counter?



Body flicker means fast movement. Keep embarrassing yourself.

shunshin an actual jutsu in naruto, it's d-rank. Keep embarrassing yourself. Naruto is faster than raikage so i don't know what this argument proposes but i'll take the bait. Raikage is obviously faster in his own raw speed, nearly everybody on this forum has said so.

 

[Otibo]

This coming from a Hashirama hater.

@ Otibo, take notes. You were making my head hurt.

I'm making your head hurt? This coming from the guy who just said FTG ATTACKS ARE INSTANTANEOUS yet madara dodged them. This alone should made you lose all credibility

 

[Demonic.]

I'm making your head hurt? This coming from the guy who just said FTG ATTACKS ARE INSTANTANEOUS yet madara dodged them. This alone should made you lose all credibility

FTG teleports the user right by the intended target, but their speed after that isn't instant, which is why Madara was able to react with senjutsu. You're trying to say foot speed is faster than FTG because of this, but it's not. FTG is still faster.

 

[KingHashirama]

shunshin is the body flicker technique, it's an actual jutsu. Naruto does not use that at all.

o-o, hmm actually, his mechanic is the same as others.


Again show me his "high speed blitz" attack that you are talking about.. because you won't be able to find one... . Otherwise he would've made Obito look like a joke.


Also, you haven't countered the other guys' post, he provided you 2 scans with same scenario:

1. Tobirama ftg behind and attacks = madara dodges

2. Tobirama ftg behinds and attacks via Naruto = Obito has no clue they came behind him.

.

 

[Otibo]

FTG teleports the user right by the intended target, but their speed after that isn't instant, which is why Madara was able to react with senjutsu. You're trying to say foot speed is faster than FTG because of this, but it's not. FTG is still faster.

When did i ever say footspeed>ftg,? You do understand that madara couldn't react to gai RIGHT ? But yet he owned minato RIGHT. You know why? Because ftg is nothing without the ability to actually be faster and react to the opponent. FTG is faster than footspeed obviously but once you teleport you need to be able to react.

 

[Otibo]

o-o, hmm actually, his mechanic is the same as others.


Again show me his "high speed blitz" attack that you are talking about.. because you won't be able to find one... . Otherwise he would've made Obito look like a joke.


Also, you haven't countered the other guys' post, he provided you 2 scans with same scenario:

1. Tobirama ftg behind and attacks = madara dodges

2. Tobirama ftg behinds and attacks via Naruto = Obito has no clue they came behind him.

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Obito has passive intangibility, it wouldn't matter. But obviously if you are moving at high constant speeds and attack someone, that will kill them, it's not rocket science. What is there to counter about the post tell me and i will.

 

[KingHashirama]

Also regarding Hashirama's attack/reaction speed:

PS sword coming down on him at full speed only feets above his head:

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and bam kurama size hands:

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Bsm naruto isn't even in the same league as Hashirama.

 

[Demonic.]

When did i ever say footspeed>ftg,? You do understand that madara couldn't react to gai RIGHT ? But yet he owned minato RIGHT. You know why? Because ftg is nothing without the ability to actually be faster and react to the opponent. FTG is faster than footspeed obviously but once you teleport you need to be able to react.

Stop right there. You realize Minato jumped in front of Guy at full speed and FTGd the black spheres away, right?

So I fail to see your point. FTG is still faster than Naruto.

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[Otibo]

Stop right there. You realize Minato jumped in front of Guy at full speed and FTGd the black spheres away, right?

So I fail to see your point. FTG is still faster than Naruto.

Yes EXACTLY he ftgd there then ftgd back, There was nothing to react to just a simple ftg, that proves my point.

 

[KingHashirama]

Obito has passive intangibility, it wouldn't matter. But obviously if you are moving at high constant speeds and attack someone, that will kill them, it's not rocket science. What is there to counter about the post tell me and i will.

You are telling him they are different situations.. yet in the end Tobirama did the samething in both situations.


Furthermore, no Obito activates the intangibility. And if Naruto had ftg level speed by feet he should be able to counter it like Minato... ohhh but he doesn't.


Furthermore, where is my proof of Naruto's high attack speed.