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Hiruzen is all hype.

So is yata. Unless you count tanking some explosive papers a feat.

OT: For the idiots posting about yata: learn to read. It said it pierces all defenses. Yata is a form of defense. And the fact that the weapon was introduced after yata is more than enough to believe it can break yata.

Best case scenario, it's paradox, but yata doesn't tank it. The point of the OP is to show that hype alone is stupid and pointless, and shouldn't be used in battle, as it leads to contradictions, specially the "beats all" kind of hype.
 

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Normal jutsus= jutsu
Blood line limits= jutsus.

:vincent: Does Kishi actually have to write except Kekkai Genkai for you to understand? That's pretty pathetic imo.
Anyway: I'll leave the thread with this, rather busy atm to argue with you.
- The shield has no physical form.
- The user can change every single of its properties. This includes size and shape. It can block from all directions.
- It can block/repel any attack. Doesn't matter if its not Ninjutsu, doesn't matter if its space-time. Any attack is useless against the Yata
- Any attack that meets this shield loses its meaning. For example, one of the Seven Ninja swordsman hidden in the mist has a sword that is said to pierce anything - however in front of the Yata it loses its meaning. Same deal for truth-seeking orb.

The shield alongside its brother and sister are clearly of the highest tier in the Naruto universe. Their origins are not known, could of existed before even Kaguya for all we know. Most people don't even know they exist and those that have heard of it just think it's some fairy tale legend. I'm not sure why people have trouble accepting that the Yata Mirror is just that good, I think it's because Itachi used it. I get the feeling that people are looking at Itachi himself and his raw-power and downplaying the Yata Mirror because of it... "It can't be that powerful because Itachi was using it. He's outclassed by several now" - That's what it feels like. Sorry but the shield is that powerful. There's a reason Sasuke didn't get the weapons, Kishi would either have to retcon or Sasuke with his chakra reserves would be stupidly broken.
 

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It's obvious Hiruzen can't use Bloodline techniques.
He can use Clan Jutsu like the Inuzuka Clan's sense of smell though.[SUB]
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So, hiruzen can use bugs? Shadows? Mind transfer? Lol
 

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:vincent: Does Kishi actually have to write except Kekkai Genkai for you to understand? That's pretty pathetic imo.
Anyway: I'll leave the thread with this, rather busy atm to argue with you.
Again with that shit. Manga says it destroys all defenses. Yata=defense, akebino's sword= yata obliterated
 

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So is yata. Unless you count tanking some explosive papers a feat.

OT: For the idiots posting about yata: learn to read. It said it pierces all defenses. Yata is a form of defense. And the fact that the weapon was introduced after yata is more than enough to believe it can break yata.

Best case scenario, it's paradox, but yata doesn't tank it. The point of the OP is to show that hype alone is stupid and pointless, and shouldn't be used in battle, as it leads to contradictions, specially the "beats all" kind of hype.

Yata is a bit overrated too.
 

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Manga facts: karin was barely burned, and raikage was just chilling.

Raikage had to cut his arm and Karin was already KO!

Mangafact: Only those who've ever Tanked Amaterasu without serious damage where

Obito : Kamui'd
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- Jubito : Gudodama
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Madara: Absorbing.
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Kaguya : absorbing
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Mangfact Added: Only Top 10 Characters could tank amaterasu WIthout critical damage
 

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Yata is a bit overrated too.

Nah it's really not. It's underrated because people associate it with Itachi. I promise you if Madara had been wielding it, no one would have questioned it. It is what it is though. Lol
 

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So, hiruzen can use bugs? Shadows? Mind transfer? Lol



Mastered all Jutsu that originated in Konoha, so I guess so.[SUB]
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Raikage had to cut his arm and Karin was already KO!

Mangafact: Only those who've ever Tanked Amaterasu without serious damage where

Obito : Kamui'd
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- Jubito : Gudodama
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Madara: Absorbing.
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Kaguya : absorbing
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Mangfact Added: Only Top 10 Characters could tank amaterasu WIthout critical damage

Karin was knocked out by the tail of hachibi.
Manga facts: rods shat on amaterasu
amga facts: helm splitter>any defense
 

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Karin was knocked out by the tail of hachibi.
Manga facts: rods shat on amaterasu
amga facts: helm splitter>any defense



Ay set his arm on Amaterasu fire but didn't even feel it, lol.
I'm beginning to think high-rank Katon is hotter than Amaterasu.[SUB]
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Mastered all Jutsu that originated in Konoha, so I guess so.[SUB]
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He would have shat on oro if he had mind transfer and shadow of nara clan
 

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Karin was knocked out by the tail of hachibi.
Manga facts: rods shat on amaterasu
amga facts: helm splitter>any defense

Obito Rods. Obito is Top 10 i've already said Only top 10 characters have tanked it.


helm splitter negs because like you said.

Mangafacts.
 

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He would have shat on oro if he had mind transfer and shadow of nara clan



He was too old to do anything.[SUB]
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Ay set his arm on Amaterasu fire but didn't even feel it, lol.
I'm beginning to think high-rank Katon is hotter than Amaterasu.[SUB]
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Again i said Critical damage, he had too​
 

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Obito Rods. Obito is Top 10 i've already said Only top 10 characters have tanked it.


helm splitter negs because like you said.

Mangafacts.

Ok Lol. Unlike amaterasu the helm splitter has never been proven wrong to be unable to destroy a defense, while amaterasu had been dehyped of its sun level heat
 

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Ok Lol. Unlike amaterasu the helm splitter has never been proven wrong to be unable to destroy a defense, while amaterasu had been dehyped of its sun level heat

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Still denying mangafacts?
 

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Karin has Sun lvl+ Durability due to Uzumaki DNA
 

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Amaterasu was also said to be the strongest Ninjutsu by BZ;
Raikiri was said to be able to cut through anything;
Madara's PS was said to be able to destroy everything in existance.
....And more.
This is all but hyperboles used by Kishi to hype up a character/Jutsu when it is first introduced, yet people use it to their own purposes.
 
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