Sasuke considers naruto bijuu his own power.

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Current Naruto with his own power(SM, summoning, clones and etc)= mid kage level ninja.

Current Sasuke with his own pow ( fodder level katon,chidori,kenjutsu and etc)=high jounin.

MS Sasuke was fighting 5 kage lv shinobis in a day :coffee:
 

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MS Sasuke was fighting 5 kage lv shinobis in a day :coffee:

It wasn't really a fight, it was more like him trying to avoid them and they would have killed him if Tobi hadn't intervened.
 

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Naruto considers Kurama as separate from himself. He knew that he would need Kurama to fight MS Sasuke:

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Sasuke doesn't consider Kurama as belonging to Naruto; neither does Naruto. However, Naruto considers Sasuke's eyes as his

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As seen above Sasuke comments, "This is the Kyubi's state..."

Naruto commented, "His new Sharingan..."

Sasuke's eyes are his own, while the bijuu will never belong to Naruto.

If we remove bijuu from Naruto he dies. If we remove eyes from Sasuke he is blind but has eyeless susanoo.

If Naruto never got Kurama then haku solo neg diff while part 2 is called Sasuke Shippuuden.
If Naruto never got Kurama, Kishimoto would've changed the plot to exclude Haku or OP Naruto in some other way.
Saying Sasuke's eyes are his own is like saying if Naruto had Mangekyo transplanted into him then they're his own. Without Itachi's eyes, Sasuke goes blind because of overuse and becomes fodder level
 

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It wasn't really a fight, it was more like him trying to avoid them and they would have killed him if Tobi hadn't intervened.

The only Kage that actually came close to killing Sasuke was Oonoki. A was saved by Gaara, otherwise, he would have died with that leg drop, and Terumi isn't stronger than Sasuke.
 

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Current Naruto with his own power(SM, summoning, clones and etc)= mid kage level ninja.

Current Sasuke with his own pow ( fodder level katon,chidori,kenjutsu and etc)=high jounin.

Naruto= SM that runs out within 5 mins, summoning a frog and clones used as a distraction

Sasuke= Sharingan, ammatersu and flame control, Susano'o, can summon both a snake and a hawk, genjutsu, chidori, Kirin, speed, his sword ability etc...

Don't compare MS Sasuke with Naruto SM thats just sad...

And tell me, If Naruto's SM is so powerful then why was he taken down and pinned to ground by Pain? He couldn't defeat or damage him without the kyuubi. :coffee:
 

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Naruto considers Kurama as separate from himself. He knew that he would need Kurama to fight MS Sasuke:

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Sasuke doesn't consider Kurama as belonging to Naruto; neither does Naruto. However, Naruto considers Sasuke's eyes as his:

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As seen above, Sasuke comments, "This is the Kyubi's state..."

Naruto commented, "His new Sharingans..."

Sasuke's eyes are his own, while the bijuu will never belong to Naruto.

If we remove bijuu from Naruto he dies. If we remove eyes from Sasuke he is blind but has eyeless susanoo.

If Naruto never got Kurama then haku solo neg diff while part 2 is called Sasuke Shippuuden.

If Naruto never got Kurama Sasuke wouldn't have gotten through that fight either, you do recall that Sasuke was also fighting and losing as well.

The fact that Naruto has Kurama saved both of them.

Although Haku wasn't even aiming to kill.

The only Kage that actually came close to killing Sasuke was Oonoki. A was saved by Gaara, otherwise, he would have died with that leg drop, and Terumi isn't stronger than Sasuke.

Actually Mei almost killed Sasuke as well, she was stopped by White Zetsu's spores.

And Gaara was only half hearted into the fight, as he wanted to get Sasuke to go back to the Leaf.

Naruto= SM that runs out within 5 mins, summoning a frog and clones used as a distraction

Sasuke= Sharingan, ammatersu and flame control, Susano'o, can summon both a snake and a hawk, genjutsu, chidori, Kirin, speed, his sword ability etc...

Don't compare MS Sasuke with Naruto SM thats just sad...

And tell me, If Naruto's SM is so powerful then why was he taken down and pinned to ground by Pain? He couldn't defeat or damage him without the kyuubi. :coffee:

I think you need to reread the Pain arc, Naruto destroyed Five of the Pains before the 9 tails got involved, and even then Pain was one of the strongest characters introduced at that point.

Or are you trying to claim that MS Sasuke is stronger then Pain?

Which would be ridiculous.
 
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If Naruto never got Kurama, Kishimoto would've changed the plot to exclude Haku or OP Naruto in some other way.
Saying Sasuke's eyes are his own is like saying if Naruto had Mangekyo transplanted into him then they're his own. Without Itachi's eyes, Sasuke goes blind because of overuse and becomes fodder level

Its impossible for you to know what kishi would have done.

Your DNA came from your mom and dad. I guess your body isn't yours.

Some matter in your brain was once probably in part of einsteins brain. I guess your brain isn't yours.

Your logic fails; correction, you lack logic.

If 10 people fight 1 guy then you can't say that its a 1vs1 fight.
 

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Actually Mei almost killed Sasuke as well, she was stopped by White Zetsu's spores.

And Gaara was only half hearted into the fight, as he wanted to get Sasuke to go back to the Leaf.

Not really. Sasuke could have shot her with an arrow or set Amaterasu to her, White Zetsu's spores simply emerged beforehand.
 

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If Naruto never got Kurama, Kishimoto would've changed the plot to exclude Haku or OP Naruto in some other way.
Saying Sasuke's eyes are his own is like saying if Naruto had Mangekyo transplanted into him then they're his own. Without Itachi's eyes, Sasuke goes blind because of overuse and becomes fodder level


A non Uchiha can only be able to use only ONE sharingan thats how powerful it is, only strong and powerful Uchihas can achieve and unlock sharingan, while to use the kyuubi's power you need to be nerfed by the opponent then the kyuubi fights for you...

Blind Sasuke still produced a chidori to match Naruto's rasengan
 
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Who Cares you guys are pointlessly arguing... You can pluck Sasuke's eyes out GG bloodline and you can take out the fox... Go for it!!! Both were lucky to get their powers.
Sasuke being born into Uchiha is equivalent of being born into rich household but no one pays attention to each other
Naruto being born with fox is equivalent of him being born rich but everyone knows his dad is a mafia boss so no one likes or hangs out with him...
 

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If Naruto never got Kurama Sasuke wouldn't have gotten through that fight either, you do recall that Sasuke was also fighting and losing as well.

The fact that Naruto has Kurama saved both of them.

Although Haku wasn't even aiming to kill.



Actually Mei almost killed Sasuke as well, she was stopped by White Zetsu's spores.

And Gaara was only half hearted into the fight, as he wanted to get Sasuke to go back to the Leaf.



I think you need to reread the Pain arc, Naruto destroyed Five of the Pains before the 9 tails got involved, and even then Pain was one of the strongest characters introduced at that point.

Or are you trying to claim that MS Sasuke is stronger then Pain?

Which would be ridiculous.

Naruto and Haku thought Sasuke was dead while he wasn't. He would have survived the same way. Haku began aiming for Naruto's vital points while Sasuke was lying on the ground, presumable dead by both.
 

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Not really. Sasuke could have shot her with an arrow or set Amaterasu to her, White Zetsu's spores simply emerged beforehand.

Sasuke's susanoo hadn't awakened to the point he could shoot the arrows yet, also he was exhausted and hitting his limit.
 

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I think you need to reread the Pain arc, Naruto destroyed Five of the Pains before the 9 tails got involved, and even then Pain was one of the strongest characters introduced at that point.

Or are you trying to claim that MS Sasuke is stronger then Pain?

Which would be ridiculous.

The main pain was the strongest opponent with the rest being summoners etc...

and of course MS Sasuke can med diff end pain, he fought the 5 kages and defeated Danzo Alone :coffee:
 

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The main pain was the strongest opponent with the rest being summoners etc...

and of course MS Sasuke can med diff end pain, he fought the 5 kages and defeated Danzo Alone :coffee:

You mean he fought four kage who were barely taking the fight seriously (except for the Raikage) ran away from them, was almost killed, rescued by Obito, healed by Karin, and then fought Danzo.

MS Sasuke beat Pain?

You are a fanboy.

Pain was using summons in the fight, remember those giant animals, on top of that each of his Pains was capable of fighting many other ninja by themselves.
 
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