Sasuke considers naruto bijuu his own power.

[BLAZE]

Don't mess with me academy student.

Dat EGO :|

 

[6thHokage]

Sasuke would be blind then.

Sage mode only last like 5 min for Naruto so ms Sasuke can take can take him before he go blind.

 

[6thHokage]

Dat EGO :|

What about it?

 

[Zlatán]

Yeah it's pretty much the same for Sasuke and his sharingan powers. If he didn't have those powers and Naruto didn't have his tailed beasts powers they'd be more or less on par, Naruto with SM, Sasuke with... lightning.

Sharingan is a bloodline limit, which ALL Uchihas get not one person, the kyuubi was inserted into Naruto coincidentally, if the village wasn't attacked his mother would been the jinchuuriki while Sasuke would still have the sharingan.

By your logic, Shikamaru shouldn't have the shadow possession jutsu, Ino shouldn't have the mind transfer jutsu and Neji shouldn't have the byakugan since their all blood lines

 

[saw2097]

Sage mode only last like 5 min for Naruto so ms Sasuke can take can take him before he go blind.

Sasuke would have already used up the eyes before then, the eyes don't recover after each fight, once he loses his eyesight its gone.

So unless Sasuke fights Naruto right after he awakens his eyes (which during that time period he couldn't fully use them as he has to awaken the powers one by one) he will already be losing his eye sight.

I can see it now:

Naruto: Lets fight.

Sasuke pulls out his sword and takes and yells, "I am coming for you."

Naruto: Sasuke you are running the wrong way.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Its ultimately irrelevant.

All chakra originally came from the Shinju, really the whole borrowed power argument is ridiculous, all ninja are using it.

Summons, Shino's bugs, Kiba's dog, Cursed Seals, tools that give special powers, DNA enhancement.

Really the entire argument was made up by Sasuke fans who wanted something to hate on Naruto over and wank Sasuke, even Madara used tailed beasts, as do many other characters.

Yet they don't get bashed for it.

You are being overly technical, and also by your logic, that makes Lee and Gai THE most powerful since they do not use chakra in their fighting style.

This borrowed power thing, when it was created it meant things like getting power from another living creature, a sentient organism.

Chakra does come from the Shinju but everybody has it, it has become a part of everyday life in the Narutoverse. Therefore it cannot be considered borrowed power since everyone has it, therefore not putting you at an advantage over others. Borrowed power would include things like EMS (taking some other MS users eyes, and getting lucky), Tailed Beasts (getting it sealed into you), etc...

 

[6thHokage]

Sharingan is a bloodline limit, which ALL Uchihas get not one person, the kyuubi was inserted into Naruto coincidentally, if the village wasn't attacked his mother would been the jinchuuriki while Sasuke would still have the sharingan.

By your logic, Shikamaru shouldn't have the shadow possession jutsu, Ino shouldn't have the mind transfer jutsu and Neji shouldn't have the byakugan since their all blood lines

Naruto fans get upset when you bring up the fact Naruto isn't much without tailbeasts.

 

[Sirius Black]

Pointless thread

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Sharingan is a bloodline limit, which ALL Uchihas get not one person, the kyuubi was inserted into Naruto coincidentally, if the village wasn't attacked his mother would been the jinchuuriki while Sasuke would still have the sharingan.

By your logic, Shikamaru shouldn't have the shadow possession jutsu, Ino shouldn't have the mind transfer jutsu and Neji shouldn't have the byakugan since their all blood lines

Actually there are some Uchiha's that do not even get Sharingan, they aren't like the Hyuga's who are born with it.

 

[saw2097]

You are being overly technical, and also by your logic, that makes Lee and Gai THE most powerful since they do not use chakra in their fighting style.

This borrowed power thing, when it was created it meant things like getting power from another living creature, a sentient organism.

Chakra does come from the Shinju but everybody has it, it has become a part of everyday life in the Narutoverse. Therefore it cannot be considered borrowed power since everyone has it, therefore not putting you at an advantage over others. Borrowed power would include things like EMS (taking some other MS users eyes, and getting lucky), Tailed Beasts (getting it sealed into you), etc...

Actually Rock Lee and Might Gai do use chakra.

They are enhancing their strength with it, the Gates they open for their fights are the chakra gates, if they didn't use chakra in their fighting style then that would be pointless.

 

[BLAZE]

Sharingan is a bloodline limit, which ALL Uchihas get not one person, the kyuubi was inserted into Naruto coincidentally, if the village wasn't attacked his mother would been the jinchuuriki while Sasuke would still have the sharingan.

By your logic, Shikamaru shouldn't have the shadow possession jutsu, Ino shouldn't have the mind transfer jutsu and Neji shouldn't have the byakugan since their all blood lines

allow me to add

 

[Sakura x Ino]

Naruto fans get upset when you bring up the fact Naruto isn't much without tailbeasts.

Pls. Naruto multiple shadow clone jutsu SM blitz Sasuke whom can only amaterasu a few at a time, and whose Susanoo can be broken with a WRS. Even if he had his mangekyo, I don't see him beating SM Naruto.

 

[6thHokage]

Pls. Naruto multiple shadow clone jutsu SM blitz Sasuke whom can only amaterasu a few at a time, and whose Susanoo can be broken with a WRS. Even if he had his mangekyo, I don't see him beating SM Naruto.

Ms Sasuke have susanno.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Actually Rock Lee and Might Gai do use chakra.

They are enhancing their strength with it, the Gates they open for their fights are the chakra gates, if they didn't use chakra in their fighting style then that would be pointless.

They are not like Sakura and Tsunade, they do not use CES, Rock Lee is not that good at chakra control remember.
I am talking about without gates, it is not like right off of the bat they go straight into opening gates.

Their strength is 100% all muscle due to the harsh physical training they put themselves through. (Until they activate gates of course)

So no, they are not enhancing their strength, otherwise, there would be no point in going through harsh physical training all the time.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Pls. Naruto multiple shadow clone jutsu SM blitz Sasuke whom can only amaterasu a few at a time, and whose Susanoo can be broken with a WRS. Even if he had his mangekyo, I don't see him beating SM Naruto.

There is such a thing as strategy, and other lesser jutsu, that would be
1. Less chakra taxing than Amaterasu
2. More essential for the current situation than Amaterasu
3. More suited for evasion than Susano'o
Sasuke is a master with the sword, they are on par.

 

[BLAZE]

Pls. Naruto multiple shadow clone jutsu SM blitz Sasuke whom can only amaterasu a few at a time, and whose Susanoo can be broken with a WRS. Even if he had his mangekyo, I don't see him beating SM Naruto.

Did Sasuke got a Speed nerf

 

[Zlatán]

Pls. Naruto multiple shadow clone jutsu SM blitz Sasuke whom can only amaterasu a few at a time, and whose Susanoo can be broken with a WRS. Even if he had his mangekyo, I don't see him beating SM Naruto.

Sasuke only needs one shot of amaterasu to burn them all including Naruto himself, the susano'o can only be shut by Kaguya's byakugan since she can see chakra points and has enough chakra to shut it down, no one is compared to her, your argument is invaild

Actually there are some Uchiha's that do not even get Sharingan, they aren't like the Hyuga's who are born with it.

Proves my point even further, since the sharingan is not just a free power, you need to work for it

 

[take it easy]

Current Naruto with his own power(SM, summoning, clones and etc)= mid kage level ninja.

Current Sasuke with his own pow ( fodder level katon,chidori,kenjutsu and etc)=high jounin.

 

[Sharingan King]

Naruto considers Kurama as separate from himself. He knew that he would need Kurama to fight MS Sasuke:

You must be registered for see images

Sasuke doesn't consider Kurama as belonging to Naruto; neither does Naruto. However, Naruto considers Sasuke's eyes as his:

You must be registered for see images

As seen above, Sasuke comments, "This is the Kyubi's state..."

Naruto commented, "His new Sharingans..."

Sasuke's eyes are his own, while the bijuu will never belong to Naruto.

If we remove bijuu from Naruto he dies. If we remove eyes from Sasuke he is blind but has eyeless susanoo.

If Naruto never got Kurama then haku solo neg diff while part 2 is called Sasuke Shippuuden.

 

[saw2097]

Sasuke only needs one shot of amaterasu to burn them all including Naruto himself, the susano'o can only be shut by Kaguya's byakugan since she can see chakra points and has enough chakra to shut it down, no one is compared to her, your argument is invaild



Proves my point even further, since the sharingan is not just a free power, you need to work for it

Actually you don't work for the Sharingan, it doesn't awaken through hard work it awakens through negative emotions.

I believe Tobirama explained how it worked.