Jiraiya vs kisame AND itachi

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As title says

Location: agato vs bee,naruto
Distance: 50 meters
Intel full



Who wins
 

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If Jiraiya stalls enough like he did with Pain and enters SM then he stomps them both mid difficulty. If not then the duo wins high difficulty with one of them dying.
 

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what......
Yeah, but it's mostly a combination of "full intel", and the misconception that frog song/entering sage mode actually takes a long time. Plus the misconception that boss summons are weak and get fodderized and are removed from the fight automatically by any jutsu, when in reality they're completely separate characters and can play huge(lol) factors. Same for the idea that Base Jiraiya is somehow completely worthless but we saw how that went already.

Then on top of that, there's everything that the manga emphasized to this point that supports it, assuming people aren't oblivious of what's been clearly shown thus far. Then we have one of the most versatile arsenals in the manga, most experienced characters and obviously a bunch more reasons than just this, but it's what it boils down to essentially.

Also since you made the thread, is there a specific reason you reacted like that, what do you think of the matchup?
 

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Since Jman starts in Base, Traitorous duo win.

Jman wins if he starts in SM, the location makes it favorable for him to prep Frog Song.

EDIT: Intel is full? Jiraiya gets med diff'd whether he's in base or not.
 

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SM Lord Jiraiya stomps them both, he took out 4 Rinnegan Pains + Konan alone. Itachi & Kisame stand no chance.
 

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SM Lord Jiraiya stomps them both, he took out 4 Rinnegan Pains + Konan alone. Itachi & Kisame stand no chance.

Itachi's Taijutsu barred KCM Naruto. His Genjutsu has 1 shotted Kage level opponents (Oro, Deidara), and attacks like Amaterasu and Totsuka are potential 1 shots.

Kisame has the largest non Tailed beast chakra, slaughtered KB who was the strongest Jin at the time.

I should also add that Kisame, despite starving in Samehada for weeks on end managed to get intel off to Tobi, Despite 7G Gai, KCM Naruto, and KB's presence being there to stop him.

Yea...you may be underrating the duo just a tad bit.
 

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Itachi and Kisame shitstomp this clown. Lol, this is one of the worst vs matchups I have seen.
 

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Itachi and Kisame shitstomp this clown. Lol, this is one of the worst vs matchups I have seen.

W/o Intel this match is favorable for Jiraiya because it's in a Forest so he can hide and Prep Frog song.

But intel is full...
 

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Itachi solo's. Summonings are countered via genjutsu. Amaterasu one shots him.
 

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Itachi solos. the Duo wins low diff.
 

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What the hell is with this wank?

Itachi would solo, with Kisame's help Jiraiya gets buttraped.
 

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According to manga facts... Jiraiya solos...
 

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Itachi and Kisame win this mid diff
 

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I love Jiraiya, but he gets wrecked.

Kisame dies in the crossfire.
 
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Starts in base? Either one can solo Mid difff
 
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