Jiraiya vs kisame AND itachi

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itachi says that if he and him faught they would kill each other

kisame says it was great finding him but his babysitter


itachi was talking ABOUT him

jiraiya cant be the him since jman does not have a babysitter

even kisame says that his babysitter is a sannin which declares that they were referring to someone else before him


after kisame talks about the babysitter(jman) itachi says that everybody has a weakness


the only other person their is the nine tail jinchuuriki


meanin that itachi was talking about the kyuubi

This prospect was talked about extensively years ago, and translators and Japanese people generally agree the context is that they are speaking about Jiraiya.

The conversation basically goes:

Kisame: "You might be able to take Jiraiya on, but I can't."
Itach: "Yeah. Jiraiya and I may kill each other, even with your help."
Kisame: "It was great finding Naruto, but with Jiraiya as his babysitter, maybe we should back off."

Kisame was just continuing on after Itachi's response, he didn't change individuals.

Think about it too... if they are so concerned about Kurama, why are they most worried about Jiraiya? They make efforts to get Jiraiya to leave Naruto's side, and then walk up to Naruto without a care in the world; Kisame was even going to chop off his arms and legs and drag him back to Akatsuki, wasn't the slightest bit worried about Kurama.

Think about it too, Kisame specializes in hunting Bijuu, he eats all of their chakra away and leaves the jinchuuriki helpless, and Itachi has the potential to suppress Kurama's because of the Sharingan. They are the perfect pair to capture Naruto, so why would they be so worried about facing him?

They were talking about Jiraiya.

Kisame alone would give Jiraiya a hard time.

He may, however, Kisame wouldn't even be able to use his full power with Itachi there. If Kisame used Shark Dance, Itachi would drown, or at the very least it quickly becomes a 1 on 1 fight with Itachi being sidelined. I admit Jiraiya would have a hard time with Shark Dance, but he has options at his disposal to win. Then it would come down to Jiraiya vs. Itachi afterwards, making Itachi's statement true; he and Jiraiya may end up killing each other, even with Kisame's help.

 

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Yes. Or, while Itachi is busy using a genjutsu, Jiraiya attacks him.

Using your logic, Jiraiya can't dodge anything. He officially has a 4.5 in speed.

Tell me how Itachi dodges Underworld Swamp, Flattened Silhouette Manipulation, Food Cart Destroyer, Frog Call, Frog Song, Wild Lion's Mane, Toad Oil Fireball, War of Words, Toad Mouth Binding, Toad Gourd Prison, Rasengan blitz, etc.

Busy using genjutsu it's visual he can fight while using genjutsu and it won't effect his fighting performance. 4.5 Databook logic is poor. I guess if 8th gate Gai and Ei both have a 5 in speed there speed is the same? Stop that 4.5 speed isn't anywhere near Ei v2 bodyflicker. He easily jumps out of it's aoe. Food cart destroyer is dodged or tanked via Susanoo. Frog call won't help Jiraiya seeing as Itachi could see through it and not only that he can still use his sharingan abilities while caught in sound genjutsu.(

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). Tanked by Susanoo, Fire is also tanked by Susanoo just because it's bigger doesn't mean a thing. As he did in cannon, Rasengan blitz? L0l Jiraiya need speed feats suggesting he can blitz Itachi seeing a blind Itachi easily matched Hebi Sasuke in taijutsu who was Deidara feared in cqc. Not to mention Deidara without his arm fought of team Gai in cqc. Even in Sage mode he can't dodge Amaterasu. Once the summonings are caught in genjutsu they'll attack Jiraiya as well.