Was anyone else disappointed with Shisui's cutscene?

[kaiyokoon]

But if it doesnt make sense, dont go on with it.

Izanagi was his only chance of survival, he fought full blooded MS uchiha with amaterasu and susanoo set out for blood, even hebi sasuke would be too dangerous for him and i wont even mention Obito's presence there.

Still though, what was his end game? He can only use koto on one of them, and he was only managing to survive with Izanagi, he certainly wasn't winning with that alone.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Still though, what was his end game? He can only use koto on one of them, and he was only managing to survive with Izanagi, he certainly wasn't winning with that alone.

He wouldnt win that's for sure.
His best way would be to pit Obito vs sasuke via some eliminate enemies of konoha command, but Obito can counter with intangibility and sasuke cant kill Obito.

 

[Sasori no Kami]

How did Shisui use Susanoo with just 1 eye?

 

[AlphaScythian]

How did Shisui use Susanoo with just 1 eye?

One can use it w/o any U_U

 

[kaiyokoon]

He wouldnt win that's for sure.
His best way would be to pit Obito vs sasuke via some eliminate enemies of konoha command, but Obito can counter with intangibility and sasuke cant kill Obito.

I agree with that. Honestly that whole fight made less since than Shisui's, there was no scenario where Danzo was walking away the victor.

 

[LustyLover]

What cutscene are we talking about here?

 

[WalksInShadows]

lol even in a non canon cutscene, Shisui had to prove how fodderific he was. Dude couldn't even maintain his Susano'o for 20 secs XD

One can use it w/o any U_U

just because Madara was seen using his w/o any eyes, it doesn't mean the same applied to every other MS user that had one. It's like saying ever other Susano'o user can remote control their avatar's weapon just because Madara was seen doing it.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

lol even in a non canon cutscene, Shisui had to prove how fodderific he was. Dude couldn't even maintain his Susano'o for 20 secs XD just because Madara was seen using his w/o any eyes, it doesn't mean the same applied to every other MS user that had one. It's like saying ever other Susano'o user can remote control their avatar's weapon just because Madara was seen doing it.

He was poisoned.

Itachi lost his vision while using Susanoo, if that counts.

 

[Korowa]

Itachi was stated to be the best in the clan while Shisui was alive in part one of the manga. Itachi didn't get MS until after Shisui's death. 3-tomoe 13 yr old Itachi was stronger than an older MS Shisui.

Hell, in this cutscene, Shisui even said that if Itachi hadn't been so worried about the coup and thinking about that when they were sparring that he would have actually won more often than not.

I wasn't really disappointed, since Shisui is fodder in comparison to the four main Uchiha we have today. He was good during his generation and had the most powerful genjutsu (that he could only use with each eye once every ten years... that's trolling by Kishimoto. Such fodder). But comparing him to the shinobi of recent years is pushing it.

 

[AlphaScythian]

lol even in a non canon cutscene, Shisui had to prove how fodderific he was. Dude couldn't even maintain his Susano'o for 20 secs XD just because Madara was seen using his w/o any eyes, it doesn't mean the same applied to every other MS user that had one. It's like saying ever other Susano'o user can remote control their avatar's weapon just because Madara was seen doing it.

Those were rinnegan powers. Blind Itachi had susanoo too.

At least shisui wasnt one panelled.

 

[Eternal Sage]

Anbu have been portrayed as fodder, but they were unsuccessful because they are fodder. Don't underestimate weapons, poison, and strategy. Even Shisui was flesh and blood. Ultimately, all great ninjas are.

Shisui seemed to have been holding back against Danzo and the Anbu too for whatever reason, perhaps lingering loyalty. That said, don't underestimate Danzo, he was a Kage candidate for a reason. Him being able to fight Shisui so evenly is proof of that, Shisui the most skilled of the Uchiha and someone who routinely defeated Itachi.

Seeing how danzo was kicked around by sasuke, Shisui should've been able to stomp him into oblivion

 

[kaiyokoon]

The part that pisses me off the most is the fact that the anbu gave him any trouble at all, when they've previously gotten taken down by pretty much everyone in the series. It wouldn't be as ridiculous had they shown any actual skill but 99% of what they did was just throw shuriken. Even prior to the poison that was all they were doing and he still looked like he was struggling. Seriously what kind of elite has trouble with shuriken? Itachi was 5 years younger than him and would've laughed at that assault.

 

[UchiGod Itachi]

The part that pisses me off the most is the fact that the anbu gave him any trouble at all, when they've previously gotten taken down by pretty much everyone in the series. It wouldn't be as ridiculous had they shown any actual skill but 99% of what they did was just throw shuriken. Even prior to the poison that was all they were doing and he still looked like he was struggling. Seriously what kind of elite has trouble with shuriken? Itachi was 5 years younger than him and would've laughed at that assault.

Itachi would have done better did you not see itachi lose to him in the beginning no ms activated? Struggling what were you watching he reflect ever last shuriken an kunai thrown at him ,the only thing that caught him the was the poison gas he inhaled even elite get caught off guard here an there. Hiruzen & Tobirama got hunted down by 20 bounty hunters anbu you would think 2 hokage shinobi could of stopped them right? Orochimaru was a anbu for the foundation lost to a plain sharingan genjutsu twice an still beat the 3rd hokage , obito kamui king ,wood style user , hashirama dna master of 4 elements at the time lost an arm to a foundation anbu.but not one time was he hit by them try fightning 6 ppl at the sametime n see how easy it is.

 

[Espadara Uchiha]

Bear in mind Danzo's arm was sheathed the entire time he was fighting Shisui, although as far as we know he may not have even had those sharingan in his arm at that time. Either way, the lack of any sharingan during his fight with Shisui meant he was at a disadvantage.


Edit: for the record, what the hell was Danzo's justification for even walking around with half his face bandaged and his arm in a sling for decades?

He may have actually been injured, I think. Who knows?

And as for Shisui's Susano'o, it kinda sounds like even he didn't know he had. Seemed like a desperation attack that activated at that moment than something he actually knew he had.

 

[QdonEms]

Its not bad but not great either.

 

[kaiyokoon]

Itachi would have done better did you not see itachi lose to him in the beginning no ms activated? Struggling what were you watching he reflect ever last shuriken an kunai thrown at him ,the only thing that caught him the was the poison gas he inhaled even elite get caught off guard here an there. Hiruzen & Tobirama got hunted down by 20 bounty hunters anbu you would think 2 hokage shinobi could of stopped them right? Orochimaru was a anbu for the foundation lost to a plain sharingan genjutsu twice an still beat the 3rd hokage , obito kamui king ,wood style user , hashirama dna master of 4 elements at the time lost an arm to a foundation anbu.but not one time was he hit by them try fightning 6 ppl at the sametime n see how easy it is.

So many things wrong with this, ok here goes. It never showed Itachi losing anything at the beginning, not that it matters because anything that was implied by that fight as far as Shisui's capabilities was immediately contradicted by his showing against Danzo. I think you missed the entire point of the thread in that I wasn't saying Shisui sucks, I was saying that his performance pales in comparison to what it should have been. Yes he deflected all of the shuriken, and he was doing nothing but running from them from the very beginning and he appeared to be taxed by deflecting the shuriken even before the fight with Danzo. Hiruzen and Tobirama were hunted down by the Kinkaku force who is in no way comparable to the anbu, and aside from that many fans believe that that was bs anyway and that it was PIS that they couldn't at least escape. Orochimaru was beaten by Itachi who was better than Shisui, and who was also more skilled at the time that he beat Oro than when Shisui died. But again, that example was ridiculous, Orochimaru was a sanin, and is by no means exemplary of the level of power or skill anyone else in the anbu has. Obito losing an arm to someone from root is also a ridiculous example, his limbs are expendable and he grew that arm right back, him losing an arm meant nothing and he killed both of the anbu that did it very easily. Lastly are you seriously asking me to compare how I, a human, would fare against anbu, vs how an elite fictional ninja would?