Yata Mirror in the databook states that Yata Mirror is endowed with all Nature Transformations, which allows it to block all ninjutsu. Enma is not Ninjutsu, he is physical, therefore Yata wont be able to null the attack.
Enma was regular size in that fight and he still disarmed orochimaru. How are you genjutsu'ing a staff that has no eyes, and amaterasu cant burn something that it indestructable.
Hiruzen takes this.. First lets remember that hiruzen is no novice when it comes to knowing how to fight uchiha, he was trained by hashirama and tobirama, and his teammate was a uchiha.
Genjustu will not work on Hiruzen since he is partnered.
Hiruzen counter itachi's fire and water release.
Susanoo gets smashed by enma.
Hiruzen outclasses itachi in shuriken-jutsu.
Smoke bombs obstruct itachi's vision
I know there is more to this fight but I will wait till someone actually comes for me. I can see Hiruzen defeating itachi more times then no though. Itachi admitted that he would have been killed by jiraiya, and hiruzen is stronger than (non-sage) jiraiya.
- Hiruzen has been genjutsu'd before now.
- Uchiha katon > Hiruzen katon
- Nyoi's sheer power is not noteworthy, couldn't damage the Kyuubi or overwhelm Oro by force. It ain't penetrating Susano'o.
- Hiruzen's best shuriken jutsu feat is throwing big shurikens in a linear fashion compared to Itachi who can hit blind spots with perfect accuracy.
- Itachi can blitz out of the smoke's radius or use a Karasu Bunshin.
Yata Mirror in the databook states that Yata Mirror is endowed with all Nature Transformations, which allows it to block all ninjutsu. Enma is not Ninjutsu, he is physical, therefore Yata wont be able to null the attack.
Bro what is up with you Hiruzen Hate.. Im seriously trying to defend his name by providing actual feats and not using Fan-Fic (Like the trolls), and you seem to be trolling. There is so much wrong with your statement.
, and Enma was shown to be no where around Hiruzen when Hiruzen was under the genjutsu. Hiruzen still didnt seem to be hindered from being placed in the genjutsu as
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while casted.
Had this been a genjutsu from itachi, enma could have simply snapped hiruzen out of it as quickly as it was cast.
There is no factual evidence that suggest Itachi's is katon is greater than Hiruzen's, but Hiruzen suiton is greater than Itachi's katon so your point doesnt even matter.
- Nyoi's sheer power is not noteworthy, couldn't damage the Kyuubi or overwhelm Oro by force. It ain't penetrating Susano'o.
Stop, PLEASE STOP.. Itachi is limited to a certain set of shuriken, while hiruzen can turn
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. BEing able to hit multiple targets in a 360's degree view benifits intachi in NO way when he is only facing one opponent. Meanwhile hiruzen's spam of Shuriken's converting 1 to 1000 or 2 to 2000 can easily overwhelm his opponent.
- Itachi can blitz out of the smoke's radius or use a Karasu Bunshin.
I remeber that, but the village was helping as well. They probably lured the kyuubi to the edge of the village which allowed hiruzen to push it out of the village when it was in the right spot.
It was a village effort all together which is why he would have said good job. He is far from a concieded hokage who wants all glory.
No Yata has the ability to block ninjutsu. That doesn't mean only ninjutsu. Otherwise Sasuke should of penetrated the shield easily[
Thanks for that. I didnt recall it blocking sasuke's physical attacks. Though that sword attack would have even pierced the susanoo itself so i cant really say it was the yata mirror that solely blocked it.
I can reason with you that Enma needs a couple of smacks/wacks to get it breaking but your arguments right now is real flawed
There are multiple ways hiruzen can lure itachi in a trap to remove him from him amaterasu.. But dont forget that its not beneficial for itachi to keep susanoo up for long due to him low stamina.
I remeber that, but the village was helping as well. They probably lured the kyuubi to the edge of the village which allowed hiruzen to push it out of the village when it was in the right spot.
It was a village effort all together which is why he would have said good job. He is far from a concieded hokage who wants all glory.
Thanks for that. I didnt recall it blocking sasuke's physical attacks. Though that sword attack would have even pierced the susanoo itself so i cant really say it was the yata mirror that solely blocked it.
There are multiple ways hiruzen can lure itachi in a trap to remove him from him amaterasu.. But dont forget that its not beneficial for itachi to keep susanoo up for long due to him low stamina.
Hiruzen takes this.. First lets remember that hiruzen is no novice when it comes to knowing how to fight uchiha, he was trained by hashirama and tobirama, and his teammate was a uchiha.
Genjustu will not work on Hiruzen since he is partnered.
Hiruzen counter itachi's fire and water release.
Susanoo gets smashed by enma.
Hiruzen outclasses itachi in shuriken-jutsu.
Smoke bombs obstruct itachi's vision
I know there is more to this fight but I will wait till someone actually comes for me. I can see Hiruzen defeating itachi more times then no though. Itachi admitted that he would have been killed by jiraiya, and hiruzen is stronger than (non-sage) jiraiya.
1. Tsukuyomi counters that, since it happens in a second
2. Relatively true
3. You can't smash an astral item like the yata mirror with enma
4. Itachi's shuriken feats are the same level as hiruzen
5. Sharingan, and they obstruct hiruzen's vision too
Itachi also has better stamina and clones to screw with hiruzen. He wins against old hiruzen mid diff
edo itachi vs edo hiruzen would be a much more interesting battle
I was giving a scenario as to why he told all the shinoda good job. They were able to successfully get the Kyi bi out of the village. That in no way hinders the pushing power that enma produced. And even if we disregard the calculations, enma still has wrecked huge god tree branches with enough force to slice cleanly thru them with no difficulty.
ACCORDING TO the DATABOOK Itachi has worst stamina than Hiruzen. Itachi sits at a 2.5 while hiruzen at a Old age still has more than him with a 3 ranking. All of itachi's Mangekyo techniques are chakra taxing so he won't be able to maintain them for long.
Hiruzen has better Shurikenjutsu
he can counter Itachi's elemental techniques
as long as Enma is there, Itachi's Genjutsu cannot do too much
Hiruzen's Taijutsu is amazing despite his old age
Enma can atleast crack, if not break Susanoo
Hiruzen's only real disadvantage is his Stamina.
Hiruzen has better Shurikenjutsu
he can counter Itachi's elemental techniques
as long as Enma is there, Itachi's Genjutsu cannot do too much
Hiruzen's Taijutsu is amazing despite his old age
Enma can atleast crack, if not break Susanoo
Hiruzen's only real disadvantage is his Stamina.
