[VS] Itachi vs Hiruzen

[naruto7861]

Itachi vs Hiruzen


Conditions healthy itachi


Intent kill

Intel none


Distance 30m

Area Konoha

 

[Rufus ShinRa]

Is this prime hiruzen????
If is Prime Hiruzen he take this low-med diff

 

[naruto7861]

Is this prime hiruzen????
If is Prime Hiruzen he take this low-med diff

don't know anything about prime Hiruzen and personally I Don think there's a difference anyway no its not prime

 

[Bronze]

Itachi low diff.​

 

[Zarakiq]

Itachi stomps

 

[wael reda]

itachi of course

 

[AizenSosuke]

Itachi low diff

 

[Xlad]

Itachi wins

 

[MickNerks]

Hiruzen takes this.. First lets remember that hiruzen is no novice when it comes to knowing how to fight uchiha, he was trained by hashirama and tobirama, and his teammate was a uchiha.

• Genjustu will not work on Hiruzen since he is partnered.
• Hiruzen counter itachi's fire and water release.
• Susanoo gets smashed by enma.
• Hiruzen outclasses itachi in shuriken-jutsu.
• Smoke bombs obstruct itachi's vision

I know there is more to this fight but I will wait till someone actually comes for me. I can see Hiruzen defeating itachi more times then no though. Itachi admitted that he would have been killed by jiraiya, and hiruzen is stronger than (non-sage) jiraiya.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

[*]Susanoo gets smashed by enma.

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Wait, what?

 

[RicardoA]

Itachi wins, mid-diff.

 

[Rιver]

Hiruzen takes this.. First lets remember that hiruzen is no novice when it comes to knowing how to fight uchiha, he was trained by hashirama and tobirama, and his teammate was a uchiha.

• Genjustu will not work on Hiruzen since he is partnered.
• Hiruzen counter itachi's fire and water release.
• Susanoo gets smashed by enma.
• Hiruzen outclasses itachi in shuriken-jutsu.
• Smoke bombs obstruct itachi's vision

I know there is more to this fight but I will wait till someone actually comes for me. I can see Hiruzen defeating itachi more times then no though. Itachi admitted that he would have been killed by jiraiya, and hiruzen is stronger than (non-sage) jiraiya.

I hope you're not serious with this one.​

 

[MickNerks]

Wait, what?

Yes, Enma definitely can smash itachi's susanoo.

We have recently seen that with enough force any susanoo can be destroyed or put down:

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Even when Madara had powered his susanoo with hashirama's cells (power-up), tsunade was still able to crack it:

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So yes, with enough force any susanoo can be destroyed, and itachi only has armored susanoo at max, not even complete or perfect:

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Enma on the other hand not only has the ability to become a diamond hard staff, but he also can change his shape, weight, and height. And he also has the ability the

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in staff form and doesnt have to solely rely on hiruzen. This means he can increase him mass and the amount of force he can apply to any given thing.

This was also demonstrated when he was able to push a gigantic kyuubi out of the village with relative ease:

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If you want to look at the weigth needed to push the kyuubi sucessfully then be my guess:

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Kushina is 38 px 1.65 m tall.

Which scales the 321 px rock to 14 m.

Rock is 33 px 14m tall.

Which scales the 721 px Kurama to 306 m.

Kyuubi was on all fours when he was pushed by Enma. On all fours, roughly about 200m from ground to ears.

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Red Fox is 4.9-31 pounds, half a meter tall.

Which makes the Kyuubi about 400 times taller than a normal Red Fox.

Weight of Kurama:

400^3*31 = 1984000000 pounds

1984000000 pounds/2000 per ton = 992000 tons

992000 tons = 8.99927e8 kg = 41505279999942222.5 J

KE = (1/2)Mass*(Velocity)^2

Velocity = sqrt(KE/((1/2)Mass))

Velocity = sqrt(41505279999942222.5 J/((1/2)8.99927e8 kg))

Velocity = 9604.24 m/s

9604.24 m/s = Mach 28

With all that said, Enma's ability to shift his weight and size is enough to easily form into something large enough to destroy itachi's susanoo.

Itachi's susanoo isnt blocking an attack that is coming with a speed of Mach 28, and has the force of over 900,000 tons (the data i posted earlier showns this).

 

[Karol350]

Itachi's susanoo isnt blocking an attack that is coming with a speed of Mach 28, and has the force of over 900,000 tons (the data i posted earlier showns this).

What do you guys think? Could Yata block such attack?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

What do you guys think?

1. Using anime feats (even though I believe Enma can extend) to conclude calculations that didn't happen in canon.

2. Calculation is obviously dramatic and inaccurate.

3. Not factoring spiritual item that suppose to neglect physical attacks, regardless if it "lacks feat".

So on and so forth.

Conclusion his reasoning is just plain funny

 

[NSUNSR]

1. Using anime feats (even though I believe Enma can extend) to conclude calculations that didn't happen in canon.

2. Calculation is obviously dramatic and inaccurate.

3. Not factoring spiritual item that suppose to neglect physical attacks, regardless if it "lacks feat".

So on and so forth.

Conclusion his reasoning is just plain funny

Some people thimk Enma pushed Kurama, because of this scan.

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[Inert Brian]

Itachi destroys Hiruzen. If Enma's destructive force was that crazy, Oro would have been Neg'd during their kenjutsu duel.

While Hiruzen potentially does counter Tsukuyomi and AMaterasu (with Enma).

Genjutsu'ing or Amaterasu'ing Enma leaves Hiruzen vulnerable.

 

[Vega]

Itachi destroys Hiruzen. If Enma's destructive force was that crazy, Oro would have been Neg'd during their kenjutsu duel.

While Hiruzen potentially does counter Tsukuyomi and AMaterasu (with Enma).

Genjutsu'ing or Amaterasu'ing Enma leaves Hiruzen vulnerable.

After Hiruzen became more emotional from sealing the Hokages, he beat Oro. rather quickly in the "kenjutsu" battle.[

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] Enma's destructive force increases when his mass increases as well. Nyoi Staff is pretty impressive, and has shown some good display as well being able to easily break through God Tree branches. [

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OT: Why make Itachi healthy yet hinder Hiruzen with Old Age? Anyways whoever wins this should have some difficulty in doing so.

 

[ChrisWolf]

well what does hiruzn have that can stand up to susannoo?

 

[LustyLover]

Itachi low difficulty.​