Hokage Battle Royale!!

[TheEvilOne]

Cant tsunade heal automatically with out the aid of hand seals or medical jutsu?

She can to some extent, ( she is a descendent of an Uzumaki after all ) but I don't think that would be useful in a battle like this.

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

@ Invisible man , UchihaGaeshi ( Uchiha Return ) is Bukijutsu.

 

[Demonic.]

Hashirama neg stomps all them clowns. And breaks that monkey staff. Or he shoves it up Tsunade's ass.

 

[NSUNSR]

Hashirama neg stomps all them clowns. And breaks that monkey staff. Or he shoves it up Tsunade's ass.

How is he breaking something as hard as diamond?

 

[Demonic.]

How is he breaking something as hard as diamond?

It was a figure of speech.

 

[NSUNSR]

It was a figure of speech.

The staff protected Hiruzen from Hashirama's mokuton. Hashirama's bear hands aren't breaking anything. What makes you think that it was just a figure of speech? Sorry but with these conditions Hashirama isn't winning.

 

[Bantos]

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Wrong. Tsunade clearly states that he used the Mokuton Clone to outwit them. Madara hid in the ground and waited for them to think he sealed his clone so he can hit them with a surprise attack, yet you are saying that him letting them hit and seal the clone is speculation, even though that is the only way his plan works? Lmao, come on now.

Inb4 you reference the other part of Tsunade's comment, that only proves that the Gokage forced him into a position where he had to go with the above strategy.

Madara never did intentionally get punched by Tsunade.
He used the mokuton feint after his body was destroyed. Tsunade cornered him in close combat.

 

[LuckyMan]

@ Invisible man , UchihaGaeshi ( Uchiha Return ) is Bukijutsu.

I'm not completely sure because it neutralized Narutos Mini Bijuu Dama then shot it back at him. The fan was never noted to hold any special properties or abilities besides it being just a fan so I was figuring that had to be some sort of ninjutsu he used with his weapon.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara never did intentionally get punched by Tsunade.
He used the mokuton feint after his body was destroyed. Tsunade cornered him in close combat.

If you still believe that nonsense even though its physically impossible, and even though the manga shows otherwise, then I'm not even going to bother arguing with you again.

 

[Bantos]

If you still believe that nonsense even though its physically impossible, and even though the manga shows otherwise, then I'm not even going to bother arguing with you again.

The manga does not show otherwise. It's you who isn't interpreting it right. :|
Tsunade clearly destroyed the real edo body, not a mokuton bunshin. God.

 

[TheEvilOne]

If you still believe that nonsense even though its physically impossible, and even though the manga shows otherwise, then I'm not even going to bother arguing with you again.

You have a point and it is more logical, but a wood clone's design is different and we have seen characters switcing places with a clone ( Orochimaru for example )

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

I'm not completely sure because it neutralized Narutos Mini Bijuu Dama then shot it back at him. The fan was never noted to hold any special properties or abilities besides it being just a fan so I was figuring that had to be some sort of ninjutsu he used with his weapon.

Madara's is special/custom , considering it has Sharingan Tomoes on it, and even Obito borrowed it . I believe it is Bukijutsu , we do not have any informations on it yet, it could be a special property of the fan , considering it was Madara's signature weapon with the scythe it has to be a reason . Although I believe it is mainly Bukijutsu, there is still possibilities for it to be a technique Madara could use with other weapons so Its debatable

 

[Dannie]

So now Tsunade can tango with Madara in CQC? What is this rubbish?

 

[FirstPlace]

Lol at the people who think Tsunade can go head to head with Madara in CQC.

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

So now Tsunade can tango with Madara in CQC? What is this rubbish?

I vaguely saw that too , No comments needed .

 

[King Of Pop]

So now Tsunade can tango with Madara in CQC? What is this rubbish?

lol my thoughts exactly. some comments really made me facepalm.

OT. ill say hashirama, not too sure tho.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara's gunbai technique to stop attacks appears to be some form of ninjutsu so it would probably be restricted in this match up. If it is some ninjutsu, then he has no way to block her attacks with his fan. If it isn't then he can only block one attack, she still has her other arm and both her legs, both of which will defeat him when she hits him just once.

Its Bukijutsu.

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and Madara reflected Naruto's attacks. Just how Rikudo's Basoshen fires out attacks, but its not the result of Ninjutsu cast by the user of the weapon. So he'd be able to reflect Tsunade's attacks as well.

She only got cut by Orochimaru because she was in shock from her phobia of blood. When she overcame it he couldn't touch her and she ended him with 1 hit. She took on the 5 Edo Madara.

She took on 5 Edo Madara clones who fought in Susanoo the whole time, that kind of combat isn't as fast and high paced as a CQC fight where he isn't using Susanoo, and Tsunade doesn't have her Byakugo or even Creation Rebirth, or any form of healing available to her here, so there is no point referencing this fight.

Yes she had her healing active but Madara had their swords. Even the likes of Mei could take a punch from Madara's Susanoo and not be KO'd by it and most blunt force attacks pale in comparison to CST in the series (which she tanked so) I believe had it not been for the swords, she could fight on par with them without the 100 Heals because all they would have are blunt force attacks.

Her healing is a much bigger advantage than Madara's Susanoo having swords, as it can still damage without swords.

-Smashing into the ground like it did to Danzo.

-Crushing like it did to Danzo.

Mei got hit once. If the Susanoo hit her while she was propped up against a wall or something of the sort, the force put on her would be much greater. Coming from the Susanoo's fist and coming from the wall behind her.

Fight Speed is not movement speed and is usually reserved for the very capable taijutsu fighters in the series. Hand speed/Fight speed is how fast one can attack and how precisely they can attack a person. I'm sure you can imagine how much fight speed it would take to take on 5 Edo Susanoo v4 Madara at once and not get completely steamrolled by them in no time and all you're using is taijutsu.

When the Susanoo aren't fast at all, and when they all aren't engaged with her at all points of the battle, no, it doesn't require fight speed of a high level.

Yes she suffered some stabbed wounds and healed from them but the point is she had no other way to fight them besides taijutsu and I believe its silly to think Madara (well this form of Madara we're discussing) can pressure her as much as the 5 Edo did in CQC. Multitasking against them eclipses anything Madara can come at her with, even when you factor in that she was healing because he can't pressure her that much and damage her like that to the point where she would need to even heal. She is of a higher level in taijutsu than him because she possesses optimal body fitness with respects to speed, power, and endurance while also holding vast knowledge of the body and all its weak joints and this allows her to fight at one of the highest CQC levels possible.

You saw nothing of the Susanoo fight, so why you are referencing it is beyond me, most of your post is speculation with no actual manga panels backing them.

As for the bold, speed is something she is inferior in, and endurance and power is what I'll give her, but Madara can render both null, and her endurance isn't going to win her this fight without any kind of healing to supplement it.

Okay, I already know he can move faster than her but its different when he is actually attacking her. I think he also had Hashirama's physical power boost from his cells too in that scene so it would not be easy to gauge what he could do without it, or if he could recreate that scene without it.

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] The fact he's faster than her, makes it easier for him to evade her direct hits.

You missed the whole gist of that point. If moving at the speed of light only gave her minor cuts (so minor in fact that she had plenty chakra left in her seal) then Madara's gunabi and scythe aren't harming her because those weapons can't recreate the same effect that gave her minor wounds. Kusanagi is a legendary weapon as I explained and Madara's attacks are chakra related and holds different properties than normal metal blades. Third Raikage used the speed of light movement as a regular form of travel with no injuries yet his body was sliced up by Temari and a couple fodders Wind style attack. The properties of ninjutsu attacks differ from weapons, I don't know exactly why, but people are more vulnerable to chakra based attacks than stuff produced by the earth. There are several examples of those situations too that backs it up so its not an ass pull.

She opened her seal before she was warped to the battlefield, meaning she was healing as she was being transported there, so no, she didn't only get a few minor cuts, that's only what he saw her with, which healed after she arrived. If this was such a great feat for her, then a Yasaka Magatama wouldn't have pierced her, unless we believe Yasaka Magatma>>>>Speed of light transfer.

Temari's Fuuton barely cut him, he wasn't sliced up at all, in fact they noted that their attacks weren't even doing anything to him. Not to mention that is only a plus for Temari's Fuuton, while dehyping the damage speed of light transfer would actually do to someone's body. Pretty sure its highly likely that "rip you to shreds" was a hyperbole

No, they don't, they are just stronger, usually.

Well hitting him one time will result in either him dying or her incapacitating him so yes, that counts as a one shot, unless you believe he can tank her attacks. Do you?

No, but he can block them.

The manga does not show otherwise. It's you who isn't interpreting it right. :|
Tsunade clearly destroyed the real edo body, not a mokuton bunshin. God.

Lol, are we really going to start this again? We saw the clone being sealed. Unless you think Madara sunk through the sand, left a clone in the pyramid and regenerated from his wound fast enough to reappear a second later and stab Tsunade, then you are wrong.

You have a point and it is more logical, but a wood clone's design is different and we have seen characters switcing places with a clone ( Orochimaru for example )

Just read above.

 

[3rdSwordsmanOfTheMist]

Hashirama. The 1st and the strongest Hokage.

 

[MickNerks]

Hashirama. The 1st and the strongest Hokage.

He is not the strongest hokage in this situation. And I dont think the manga ever stated he was the strongest hokage.