Hokage Battle Royale!!

[Eternal Sage]

I'll say it again:
Bias fight with hiruzen using enma: Hiruzen wins
Unbiased fight: Tsunade/Hashirama wins

 

[LuckyMan]

Yes, because the guy with superior speed, reactions and Sharingan to predict her movements will let her grab him with no resistance whatsoever. Another reason why I can't take you seriously.

Obviously he would resist. If you thought I was talking about her grabbing him and he just stand and do nothing then it seems I need to dumb it down and break it apart for you step by step... again. This is a taijutsu/kenjutsu fight only so Madara has no Sharingan, thats dojutsu and falls under the category of perceptive abilities like SM so it would be restricted. Now read carefully, I'm bringing it back to Hooked on Phonics, the most rudimentary level of reading and comprehension there is for you.

If Madara throws a punch at Tsunade she can take the hit unfazed and grab his arm/wrist and literally rip/crush it off. Unless of course you believe Madara can punch her AND pull back at the same time, which is impossible, FYI.

If Madara launches a kick at Tsunade same scenario, she tanks the hit, grabs hold of his leg, and crushes/rips it off. Remember for this not to occur that Madara must have the speed to kick her AND pull back at the same time, which is not possible.

If Madara swings his scythe at Tsunade it will do very little damage and she will be unfazed. When he swings it she can grab it and pull him in, which the options will be getting his body exploded with her punch or him letting it go to survive. If he attacks with the scythe and it gets lodged into her body, she just grabs him and does not let go which is death for him or he lets go the scythe. Either way it goes he either gets disarmed or outright killed.

Tsunade isn't some super durable being, nor does she have any healing or regeneration in this scenario, so his scythe is going to cut her. When you can get me feats that allow her to tank it, then we can talk. The rest is another reason why I can't take you seriously, you can't counter so you start crying about how I think Madara is some god, or how I'm overrating the Uchiha. Pathetic and unamusing at best.

Yet she took Orochumaru's Kusanagi through the

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. Yet she took Orochimaru's Kusanagi across the

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. And once upon her

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. Even when it through her heart she held a full conversation with Orochimaru you can see for yourself, chapter 169. The Kusanagi is strong enough to cut diamond as Enma said it would still hurt his body, even though he was made of diamond. She withstood speed of light movement with minor cuts over her body. These eclipse anything Madara's scythe can do to her which for all we know is a regular scythe that can't cut deeper than a tanto or kunai. You do overrate the Uchiha in my opinion. Maybe its not clear to you because you have such a hard on for them that you can't see it.

That covers his scythe. His punches and kicks are tanked and she will be completely unfazed by them. She tanked CST from Deva Path and had used all her chakra to protect the village. People like Shikamaru and Shino had broken legs and arms despite them all being inside a Katsuyu to protect them. She tanked that attack with no visible injuries, just exhausted. His punches and kicks are doing shit to her, they wont come close to damaging her. This covers his blunt force attacks.

No, I'm just pointing out how its ironic that I'm the fanboy, even though I have better arguments. The only one who is rustled here is you, since you started throwing the usual fanboy insults first, and you started crying about me "underestimating" Tsunade first.

Its your own opinion that you have better arguments and you are entitled to it. You're still being a kid, first you play the "I'm better than you" card now you're playing the "He who smelt it dealt it" card, assuming that I'm rustled all because I said you are. You need to leave that shit at the kindergarten playground because all it's showing is your insecurity. Yes I said you were underestimating Tsunade..... and? That makes me rustled? That makes me buthurt? Those words are so ****ing cliche now, just having a different opinion than you makes someone rustled and hurt? Please.

This whole second paragraph is just you trying to deflect. You are rustled. You are butthurt. You don't want to admit it so you are trying to make it seem like I am rustled, even though you are the one who has been posting off topic stuff, crying about how I'm a fanboy instead of posting legit counters, but then again, I don't expect legit counters from you anyway.

I posted counters. Sorry if you couldn't comprehend them. Calling you a fanboy is not off topic because fanboyism is a conflict of interest in these type of threads and I'm calling you out on it to nip it in the bud and hopefully deter you from resorting to it to keep the debate interesting. Few people are unbiased when it comes to Uchiha and you're not one of them. So Yep. Keep at it kid. Call me buthurt and rustled whenever I disagree with you, doesn't make your case any stronger.

o yeah, if all you came to do is bitch, then don't reply again, cause it seems that's all you are good at, your arguments are terrible.

So terrible yet you continue to reply to them, hmm I wonder why?

 

[Tsunade123]

Hashirama's the strongest Hokage, restrictions or not.

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Tsuande breaks and crumbles their bones to dust

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[Penguin]

Hashirama -> Tobirama >= Minato -> Tsunade -> Hiruzen

Tobirama has slightly more chakra than Minato in base form, otherwise they are pretty much equal without ninjutsu. Hashirama rapes.

 

[MickNerks]

OP is clearly bias giving Hiruzen Enma, but restricting everything else. Look at his avatar pic bro XD

Enma is resistant like a diamond so how can it be putted against normal, metal weapons and swords.. I guess this thread is a little biased right lol. Anyway Aight

Ahh. Well then it's hashirama.
The bias is real though. Hiruzen gets a summon but the rest don't.

Enma is already in staff form with hiruzen before the match begins. And Enma can ONLY be used in staff form. Like during the war, but he cant be used as a monkey.. I only gave him to hiruzen because he is hiruzen's main weapon (staff form). Just like Minato has his kunai, and I gave tobirama his sword.

Hashrama still has the weapons he used against madara:

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lmao, this dude's known for his bias toward Hiruzen so I'm not even surprised.

I Dont have biased toward hiruzen, I just notice that people down play his skills like he is fodder, so I actually take the time to bring his cannon abilities to people attention. I do the same with gaara, shino, rock lee, and Asuma (whenever they are in threads). Its not bias, its awareness.

Im not the same breed of fanboy that spouts that neutralizer non-sense, and cliams he can use KKG's.

 

[Eternal Sage]

Enma is already in staff form with hiruzen before the match begins. And Enma can ONLY be used in staff form. Like during the war, but he cant be used as a monkey.. I only gave him to hiruzen because he is hiruzen's main weapon (staff form). Just like Minato has his kunai, and I gave tobirama his sword.

Hashrama still has the weapons he used against madara:

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I Dont have biased toward hiruzen, I just notice that people down play his skills like he is fodder, so I actually take the time to bring his cannon abilities to people attention. I do the same with gaara, shino, rock lee, and Asuma (whenever they are in threads). Its not bias, its awareness.

Im not the same breed of fanboy that spouts that neutralizer non-sense, and cliams he can use KKG's.

Not only does enma outclass regular weapons by far, but it can change size and arms and legs can come out

 

[MickNerks]

Not only does enma outclass regular weapons by far, but it can change size and arms and legs can come out

Tsunade's strength outclasses all of the other hokages just as much, yet no one is complaining about that.

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Tsunade is the perfect counter for enma since she has the raw strength to disarm hiruzen from his staff. And if the hokages realize how much of a problem enma is they definitely smart enought to gang up on hiruzen to disarm him of enma and finish him, or run his stamina low enought for enma to dissapear.

This battle is far from one sided, people just arnt thinking properly.

Using tsunade and hashirama as a distraction, minato and tobirama could strike hiruzen from behind with shurikens to eliminate him as a threat. But people rather complain about how baised this is rather then use their brain.

 

[Vega]

Are explosive tags allowed? If so Hiruzen has another advantage in his favor.[

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Hmm, this is an interesting battle. I'd give Hiruzen or Tsunade the best chance followed by Hashirama I guess.

 

[KidGamer65]

Obviously he would resist. If you thought I was talking about her grabbing him and he just stand and do nothing then it seems I need to dumb it down and break it apart for you step by step... again. This is a taijutsu/kenjutsu fight only so Madara has no Sharingan, thats dojutsu and falls under the category of perceptive abilities like SM so it would be restricted. Now read carefully, I'm bringing it back to Hooked on Phonics, the most rudimentary level of reading and comprehension there is for you.

Except, she isn't grabbing her, period. That is what you need to understand. Though its clear that you've been rustled as fuck. Can't blame you though. You aren't making sense and I called you out on it.

And even without Sharingan, he is still

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than the likes of Tsunade, so its irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

If Madara throws a punch at Tsunade she can take the hit unfazed and grab his arm/wrist and literally rip/crush it off. Unless of course you believe Madara can punch her AND pull back at the same time, which is impossible, FYI.

Why the hell would Madara punch and kick when he has two very capable weapons in his hand? One to block her attacks, that can also cut, and one that is made for cutting. No shit he'd lose if he came at her like that.

If Madara launches a kick at Tsunade same scenario, she tanks the hit, grabs hold of his leg, and crushes/rips it off. Remember for this not to occur that Madara must have the speed to kick her AND pull back at the same time, which is not possible.

Remember for this to occur, Madara has to be stupid enough to punch and kick

If Madara swings his scythe at Tsunade it will do very little damage and she will be unfazed. When he swings it she can grab it and pull him in, which the options will be getting his body exploded with her punch or him letting it go to survive. If he attacks with the scythe and it gets lodged into her body, she just grabs him and does not let go which is death for him or he lets go the scythe. Either way it goes he either gets disarmed or outright killed.

When you can show me Tsunade's super durable skin, then we can talk. Until then, the Gunbai hits her, cuts her and knocks her back, or the scythe cuts right through her skin. @bold: It has no reason to get lodged in her body, it'll cut right through her body. When you can show me Tsunade's skin being durable enough so that blades can't cut all the way through, or cut so shallowly that it'd get stuck in her body, then we can talk. Not to mention if one weapon gets lodged in her body, (Not gonna happen) the second one cuts her arm off

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she reaches to grab him. A Kunai pulled dismembered Oro's hand, Tsunade is no different.

Yet she took Orochumaru's Kusanagi through the

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. Yet she took Orochimaru's Kusanagi across the

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. And once upon her

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. Even when it through her heart she held a full conversation with Orochimaru you can see for yourself, chapter 169. The Kusanagi is strong enough to cut diamond as Enma said it would still hurt his body, even though he was made of diamond. She withstood speed of light movement with minor cuts over her body. These eclipse anything Madara's scythe can do to her which for all we know is a regular scythe that can't cut deeper than a tanto or kunai.

She got cut and stabbed through the heart, and had to fall back on

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to survive. So no, if she gets slashed through the chest and stabbed through the heart, she eventually bleeds to death, or dies somehow, as she needed healing to survive wounds like that in canon. Did we skip this page in our assessment? Orochimaru couldn't even cut her effectively due to lacking arms, and he still pulled off that much with his mouth, unless you are telling me its easier to swing a sword with your mouth, in that case you'd obviously be wrong.

Madara's scythe can do that to her, and worse. The Gunbai as well considering

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You do overrate the Uchiha in my opinion. Maybe its not clear to you because you have such a hard on for them that you can't see it.

You are still bitching. Especially when you're arguments are shit. You can cry when you actually post someting that makes sense.

That covers his scythe. His punches and kicks are tanked and she will be completely unfazed by them. She tanked CST from Deva Path and had used all her chakra to protect the village. People like Shikamaru and Shino had broken legs and arms despite them all being inside a Katsuyu to protect them. She tanked that attack with no visible injuries, just exhausted. His punches and kicks are doing shit to her, they wont come close to damaging her. This covers his blunt force attacks.

Ok, blunt force attacks aren't working, but I never even bothered to mention them, in fact, I pretty much clarified that they wouldn't happen when I stated that Madara'll fight with his weapons, and not his fists.

Its your own opinion that you have better arguments and you are entitled to it. You're still being a kid, first you play the "I'm better than you" card now you're playing the "He who smelt it dealt it" card, assuming that I'm rustled all because I said you are. You need to leave that shit at the kindergarten playground because all it's showing is your insecurity. Yes I said you were underestimating Tsunade..... and? That makes me rustled? That makes me buthurt? Those words are so ****ing cliche now, just having a different opinion than you makes someone rustled and hurt? Please.

The kid is the one constantly whining and moaning, which would be you ever since this debate started. I don't care if I'm better than you, the point is, its ironic how I'm the fanboy even though I have better points than you. That isn't bragging, its showing that you have no right to call anyone a fanboy when half the shit you say makes no sense. You started crying first, you are the only one who is rustled here, and frankly, watching you act like a little bitch is unamusing at this point.

What makes you rustled is you constantly whining about how I'm a fanboy.

I posted counters. Sorry if you couldn't comprehend them. Calling you a fanboy is not off topic because fanboyism is a conflict of interest in these type of threads and I'm calling you out on it to nip it in the bud and hopefully deter you from resorting to it to keep the debate interesting. Few people are unbiased when it comes to Uchiha and you're not one of them. So Yep. Keep at it kid. Call me buthurt and rustled whenever I disagree with you, doesn't make your case any stronger.

Nah, my points make my case stronger. Most of your last two posts have been mere bitching and whining. Its clear who's mad here. Keep whining about how I wank the Uchiha when most of the shit you spew is always wanking someone. "Unbiased towards the Uchiha" pretty much means "Agree with everything I say about them or you're a fanboy" in your dictionary, and its pretty damn pathetic.

So terrible yet you continue to reply to them, hmm I wonder why?

Killing time buddy. Killing time. Me giving your argument the time of day doesn't mean its good. Cause if "Blade gets lodged in body" and "A scythe is barely hurting her based on her getting cut twice and still being alive" (Even though she had to heal from it) then you shouldn't really even be taken seriously.

ont have biased toward hiruzen, I just notice that people down play his skills like he is fodder, so I actually take the time to bring his cannon abilities to people attention. I do the same with gaara, shino, rock lee, and Asuma (whenever they are in threads). Its not bias, its awareness.

Im not the same breed of fanboy that spouts that neutralizer non-sense, and cliams he can use KKG's.

Come on now, you are biased towards Hiruzen, I've seen your posts, but you do have good arguments for him in threads where the fight is actually arguable.

 

[Penguin]

>gives Hiruzen a sentient, living weapon harder than diamond
>gives everyone else swords

:|

Hiruzen still gets raped one on one by any of them.

 

[MickNerks]

>gives Hiruzen a sentient, living weapon harder than diamond
>gives everyone else swords

:|

Hiruzen still gets raped one on one by any of them.

Well, this is a battle royal, which means every hokage is in the fight. And Enma is limited to his staff form only, like shown during the war.

One on one, hiruzen still smacks tsunade and tobirama...

 

[NSUNSR]

With Enma, Hiruzen comfortably wins this.

 

[Raijingan]

Well considering it was said that Hashirama > Madara in Taijutsu and Madara has better feats in Taijutsu then the others, I would say he is more skilled then the lot of them.


Summoning Enma is restricted.



Hashirama has better movement speed then both Tobirama and Minato........

You're crazy. Both Minato and Tobirama are way faster than Hashirama

Also stated in the rules, Hiruzen gets enma from the start

 

[V h o]

Minato or Hiruzen. Leaning towards Minato who should be able to blitz everyone here.

 

[Xlad]

I actually think Tobirama has this.

 

[LuckyMan]

Except, she isn't grabbing her, period. That is what you need to understand. Though its clear that you've been rustled as fuck. Can't blame you though. You aren't making sense and I called you out on it.

Just as I said, you think she can't even touch him, that he dances around her and wins flawlessly. This is retarded logic and makes no sense. Madara has no taijutsu feats that put him on the level of Tsunade. His only feat is beating up a crowd of fodder Genin that any competent Taijutsu user in the series could do as well.

And even without Sharingan, he is still

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than the likes of Tsunade, so its irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

Far is an overstatement. He's no more than a tier above her in speed and attacking Sai and SM Naruto are not impressive feats. Sai was holding a large scroll and Naruto was beat and battered already. Movement speed is not fight speed either. Learn the difference.

When you can show me Tsunade's super durable skin, then we can talk. Until then, the Gunbai hits her, cuts her and knocks her back, or the scythe cuts right through her skin. @bold: It has no reason to get lodged in her body, it'll cut right through her body. When you can show me Tsunade's skin being durable enough so that blades can't cut all the way through, or cut so shallowly that it'd get stuck in her body, then we can talk. Not to mention if one weapon gets lodged in her body, (Not gonna happen) the second one cuts her arm off

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she reaches to grab him. A Kunai pulled dismembered Oro's hand, Tsunade is no different.

You already know her super durable skin, you're just bi!tching and don't want to admit it because you know no scythe or gunbai is cutting her.

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should have been ripped to shreds and her dead by moving at the speed of light yet it was not. You already knew this though and was just dancing around my point to avoid the obvious truth that is weapons are not damaging her. Speed of Light Movement >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gunbai + Scythe in terms of the ability to harm/cut her flesh. His weapons are useless and you know it so cut the sh!t and make a better argument because the foundation you built your weak ass argument on as crumbled.

She got cut and stabbed through the heart, and had to fall back on

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to survive. So no, if she gets slashed through the chest and stabbed through the heart, she eventually bleeds to death, or dies somehow, as she needed healing to survive wounds like that in canon. Did we skip this page in our assessment? Orochimaru couldn't even cut her effectively due to lacking arms, and he still pulled off that much with his mouth, unless you are telling me its easier to swing a sword with your mouth, in that case you'd obviously be wrong. Madara's scythe can do that to her, and worse. The Gunbai as well considering

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Already covered this. His weapons are non factor.

The kid is the one constantly whining and moaning, which would be you ever since this debate started. I don't care if I'm better than you, the point is, its ironic how I'm the fanboy even though I have better points than you. That isn't bragging, its showing that you have no right to call anyone a fanboy when half the shit you say makes no sense. You started crying first, you are the only one who is rustled here, and frankly, watching you act like a little bitch is unamusing at this point.

Your saying the same thing over and over now. You think you have better points. Its your own opinion and you can run with that but saying it doesn't make your case any stronger, especially when little to no evidence backs it up. You are a fanboy and its showing. I already called the fact in my earlier post that you would say Madara would go untouched versus Tsunade in a CQC fight, and you have. You didn't say it directly like that, but the fact Tsundae kills him with one hit neg difficulty and the fact you believe he can swing his scythe/gunabi and she can't land a hit or grapple him is basically saying he wins flawlessly untouched and unscathed while chopping her to pieces/bleeding her out. Do you have any idea how damn unrealistic that is? Madara has no solid weaponry feats to make such a claim and his taijutsu is clearly inferior to Tsunades so I see no other conclusion than that you are just fanboying. You're constantly saying I'm b!tching yet you keep b!tching about me b!tching and haven't dropped the topic since! Hypocrite I suppose?

Nah, my points make my case stronger. Most of your last two posts have been mere bitching and whining. Its clear who's mad here. Keep whining about how I wank the Uchiha when most of the shit you spew is always wanking someone. "Unbiased towards the Uchiha" pretty much means "Agree with everything I say about them or you're a fanboy" in your dictionary, and its pretty damn pathetic.

Says who. Did the Guru God of NB whisper you have a stronger case? Still claiming my post are b!tching when your post are you b!tching about me b!tching?! You need to think a little more before you respond. No, it means form a halfway decent argument that makes sense. Your a fanboy in my book when you take things too far, in this case its saying Madara is untouchable in a CQC fight against her when everything points to the opposite.

Killing time buddy. Killing time. Me giving your argument the time of day doesn't mean its good. Cause if "Blade gets lodged in body" and "A scythe is barely hurting her based on her getting cut twice and still being alive" (Even though she had to heal from it) then you shouldn't really even be taken seriously.

Except the Sword of Kusanagi is a weapon with legendary properties like Totsuka and Yata unlike a plain metal scythe. Nice try, but try harder.

 

[KidGamer65]

Just as I said, you think she can't even touch him, that he dances around her and wins flawlessly. This is retarded logic and makes no sense. Madara has no taijutsu feats that put him on the level of Tsunade. His only feat is beating up a crowd of fodder Genin that any competent Taijutsu user in the series could do as well.

Not only is the bold unsubstantiated, its irrelevant. Madara is faster, more reflexive and has a weapon to block her attacks. I never said he'd dance around her, I said he'd block her attacks and cuts her with his scythe. He rinses and repeats until she dies from blood loss.

Why don't you show me these Taijutsu feats that put her on another level compared to Madara? So far all I've seen is her getting cut by Orochimaru.

Far is an overstatement. He's no more than a tier above her in speed and attacking Sai and SM Naruto are not impressive feats. Sai was holding a large scroll and Naruto was beat and battered already. Movement speed is not fight speed either. Learn the difference.

Not really. He moved so fast that SM Naruto couldn't evade, that beats any of Tsunade's shitty speed feats anyday, and the bolded are just excuses. Naruto was beat and battered? When you can prove that Naruto's performance was affected in such a negative way that he'd be slower to react, then we can talk.

That Shunshin feat is only an example to show that he's faster than her, I never said that his Shunshin speed=His fighting speed.

You already know her super durable skin, you're just bi!tching and don't want to admit it because you know no scythe or gunbai is cutting her.

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should have been ripped to shreds and her dead by moving at the speed of light yet it was not. You already knew this though and was just dancing around my point to avoid the obvious truth that is weapons are not damaging her. Speed of Light Movement >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gunbai + Scythe in terms of the ability to harm/cut her flesh. His weapons are useless and you know it so cut the sh!t and make a better argument because the foundation you built your weak ass argument on as crumbled.

I'm bitching? Pretty sure that'd be you, once again. Rustled indeed.

Oh look, InvisibleMan isn't reading the manga again, what's new? Tsunade had to use her

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to heal from the injuries she sustained when traveling through Mabui's jutsu. So no, she did not tank it any way, shape or form. The fact she's been pierced by swords, Madara's Yasaka Magatama and his Susanoo blades only shows that her skin isn't super durable. Its just more shit you pulled out of your ass. When you can get me a feat of her tanking any kind of blade, then we can talk, until then, the scythe and the Gunbai cut her.

Already covered this. His weapons are non factor.

Nope. From here on out, I'm just going to cross out anything irrelevant to the main topic, cause your bitching is annoying.

Your saying the same thing over and over now. You think you have better points. Its your own opinion and you can run with that but saying it doesn't make your case any stronger, especially when little to no evidence backs it up. You are a fanboy and its showing. I already called the fact in my earlier post that you would say Madara would go untouched versus Tsunade in a CQC fight, and you have. You didn't say it directly like that, but the fact Tsundae kills him with one hit neg difficulty and the fact you believe he can swing his scythe/gunabi and she can't land a hit or grapple him is basically saying he wins flawlessly untouched and unscathed while chopping her to pieces/bleeding her out. Do you have any idea how damn unrealistic that is? Madara has no solid weaponry feats to make such a claim and his taijutsu is clearly inferior to Tsunades so I see no other conclusion than that you are just fanboying. You're constantly saying I'm b!tching yet you keep b!tching about me b!tching and haven't dropped the topic since! Hypocrite I suppose?

So, Tsunade one shots Madara in CQC according to you, and I'm the fanboy? Lol, the irony is too strong with this guy. I've already shown how he blocks her attacks and damages her. Whining isn't going to help you.

Says who. Did the Guru God of NB whisper you have a stronger case? Still claiming my post are b!tching when your post are you b!tching about me b!tching?! You need to think a little more before you respond. No, it means form a halfway decent argument that makes sense. Your a fanboy in my book when you take things too far, in this case its saying Madara is untouchable in a CQC fight against her when everything points to the opposite.

Everything I crossed out, is just you bitching. Its about time you stuck to the topic instead of crying about how I'm a fanboy even though your argumentation is shit.

"Tsunade tanks blades"

"Tsunade tanked speed of light transfer"

Lol

Except the Sword of Kusanagi is a weapon with legendary properties like Totsuka and Yata unlike a plain metal scythe. Nice try, but try harder.

Except Tsunade has no feats to say that she can take a normal blade either, so it doesn't really matter how inferior his scythe is to the Kusanagi.

 

[Inert Brian]

Hiruzen obviously wins.

Enma destroys the other 4 in cqc. To be fair though, Tsunade's monstrous strength would make for a good fight.

 

[LuckyMan]

Not only is the bold unsubstantiated, its irrelevant. Madara is faster, more reflexive and has a weapon to block her attacks. I never said he'd dance around her, I said he'd block her attacks and cuts her with his scythe. He rinses and repeats until she dies from blood loss. Why don't you show me these Taijutsu feats that put her on another level compared to Madara? So far all I've seen is her getting cut by Orochimaru.

Madara's gunbai technique to stop attacks appears to be some form of ninjutsu so it would probably be restricted in this match up. If it is some ninjutsu, then he has no way to block her attacks with his fan. If it isn't then he can only block one attack, she still has her other arm and both her legs, both of which will defeat him when she hits him just once. She only got cut by Orochimaru because she was in shock from her phobia of blood. When she overcame it he couldn't touch her and she ended him with 1 hit. She took on the 5 Edo Madara. Yes she had her healing active but Madara had their swords. Even the likes of Mei could take a punch from Madara's Susanoo and not be KO'd by it and most blunt force attacks pale in comparison to CST in the series (which she tanked so) I believe had it not been for the swords, she could fight on par with them without the 100 Heals because all they would have are blunt force attacks. Fight Speed is not movement speed and is usually reserved for the very capable taijutsu fighters in the series. Hand speed/Fight speed is how fast one can attack and how precisely they can attack a person. I'm sure you can imagine how much fight speed it would take to take on 5 Edo Susanoo v4 Madara at once and not get completely steamrolled by them in no time and all you're using is taijutsu. Yes she suffered some stabbed wounds and healed from them but the point is she had no other way to fight them besides taijutsu and I believe its silly to think Madara (well this form of Madara we're discussing) can pressure her as much as the 5 Edo did in CQC. Multitasking against them eclipses anything Madara can come at her with, even when you factor in that she was healing because he can't pressure her that much and damage her like that to the point where she would need to even heal. She is of a higher level in taijutsu than him because she possesses optimal body fitness with respects to speed, power, and endurance while also holding vast knowledge of the body and all its weak joints and this allows her to fight at one of the highest CQC levels possible.

Not really. He moved so fast that SM Naruto couldn't evade, that beats any of Tsunade's shitty speed feats anyday, and the bolded are just excuses. Naruto was beat and battered? When you can prove that Naruto's performance was affected in such a negative way that he'd be slower to react, then we can talk.
That Shunshin feat is only an example to show that he's faster than her, I never said that his Shunshin speed=His fighting speed.

Okay, I already know he can move faster than her but its different when he is actually attacking her. I think he also had Hashirama's physical power boost from his cells too in that scene so it would not be easy to gauge what he could do without it, or if he could recreate that scene without it.

Oh look, InvisibleMan isn't reading the manga again, what's new? Tsunade had to use her

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to heal from the injuries she sustained when traveling through Mabui's jutsu. So no, she did not tank it any way, shape or form. The fact she's been pierced by swords, Madara's Yasaka Magatama and his Susanoo blades only shows that her skin isn't super durable. Its just more shit you pulled out of your ass. When you can get me a feat of her tanking any kind of blade, then we can talk, until then, the scythe and the Gunbai cut her.

You missed the whole gist of that point. If moving at the speed of light only gave her minor cuts (so minor in fact that she had plenty chakra left in her seal) then Madara's gunabi and scythe aren't harming her because those weapons can't recreate the same effect that gave her minor wounds. Kusanagi is a legendary weapon as I explained and Madara's attacks are chakra related and holds different properties than normal metal blades. Third Raikage used the speed of light movement as a regular form of travel with no injuries yet his body was sliced up by Temari and a couple fodders Wind style attack. The properties of ninjutsu attacks differ from weapons, I don't know exactly why, but people are more vulnerable to chakra based attacks than stuff produced by the earth. There are several examples of those situations too that backs it up so its not an ass pull.

So, Tsunade one shots Madara in CQC according to you, and I'm the fanboy? Lol, the irony is too strong with this guy. I've already shown how he blocks her attacks and damages her. Whining isn't going to help you.

Well hitting him one time will result in either him dying or her incapacitating him so yes, that counts as a one shot, unless you believe he can tank her attacks. Do you?

Except Tsunade has no feats to say that she can take a normal blade either, so it doesn't really matter how inferior his scythe is to the Kusanagi.

Speed of light transfer is evidence that she can. I thought this was already covered.

 

[MickNerks]

Cant tsunade heal automatically with out the aid of hand seals or medical jutsu?