[Discussion] Luffy vs law

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Wouldnt he be able to sense where it is with CoO? Not to mention if he is using CoO he can prepare for when Law cuts him.
Luffy's CoO has waned before. Shouldn't he have been able to locate Doffy with CoO? Or tell when the dragon was about to hit him with its tail? Luffy's CoO isn't that good.

And what can Luffy do to prepare against Law's cut? I don't see Luffy's less than 2 year Haki being as good as Vergo's, who has had it for over ten years, so it's not negating Law's powers. Luffy also can't block it. His only choice is to dodge it, and we haven't see Luffy do anything that would suggest he has the speed to.
 

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Yes, as proven by Doflamingo, the room is a guaranteed win
Plot my friend. Room allows Law to produced multi mountains cutters with one slash.
Luffy's DF allows him to stretch his body to his other half IF it gets cut by Law so its not GG if Law cuts him once.
Stop Once luffy is anywhere near close this ends him.( ).
 

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Luffy's CoO has waned before. Shouldn't he have been able to locate Doffy with CoO? Or tell when the dragon was about to hit him with its tail? Luffy's CoO isn't that good.

And what can Luffy do to prepare against Law's cut? I don't see Luffy's less than 2 year Haki being as good as Vergo's, who has had it for over ten years, so it's not negating Law's powers. Luffy also can't block it. His only choice is to dodge it, and we haven't see Luffy do anything that would suggest he has the speed to.
Im pretty sure he wasnt using CoO then. You think that the speed at which Law can swing his sword is faster than Luffy in G2?
 

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Law high diffs once room is up....however if Luffy goes gear 2nd and prevents law from using room then Luffy high diff.
 

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Im pretty sure he wasnt using CoO then. You think that the speed at which Law can swing his sword is faster than Luffy in G2?
Exactly my point. Luffy hasn't shown to use CoO often, he slacks with it.

And yeah? He was able to swing it in time to cut Vergo, who has amazing speed, and Luffy hasn't shown anything to indicate superior speed.
 

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Exactly my point. Luffy hasn't shown to use CoO often, he slacks with it.

And yeah? He was able to swing it in time to cut Vergo, who has amazing speed, and Luffy hasn't shown anything to indicate superior speed.
Luffy would use CoO in a serious fight like this. Vergo didn't dodge Laws attack because he got too cocky and thought that he could tank it.
 

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One has to be fast to survive in the 'Room' and Luffy has more than enough speed to counter it...

DD was literally toying with Law's 'Room'...
 
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One has to be fast to survive in the 'Room' and Luffy has more than enough speed to counter it...

DD was literally toying with Law's 'Room'...

Luffy hasn't shown any greater speed feats than Vergo, and Vergo's speed wasn't enough.

Doffy, however, has been shown to be faster than Luffy.
 

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Luffy hasn't shown any greater speed feats than Vergo, and Vergo's speed wasn't enough.

Doffy, however, has been shown to be faster than Luffy.

I think Vergo was seriously under-estimating Law...
 

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I think Vergo was seriously under-estimating Law...

So? You trying to tell me that Vergo's best form, which he was using to go for the kill, lacks the speed of his base form that he had no problem using on Law just to torture him? Vergo is gonna go into his best form to do less than what he was doing in his base form?
 

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Luffy wins extreme difficulty. Law is too much room reliant
 

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Luffy wins extreme difficulty. Law is too much room reliant

Law is too reliant on his powers? Too reliant on his Devil Fruit powers? You mean like how everything Luffy does revolves around either his Devil Fruit or Haki, both of which we've seen Law use?

Is Zoro too reliant on his swords? Is Sanji too reliant on his legs? Is Usopp too reliant on his slingshot?
 

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Law is too reliant on his powers? Too reliant on his Devil Fruit powers? You mean like how everything Luffy does revolves around either his Devil Fruit or Haki, both of which we've seen Law use?

Is Zoro too reliant on his swords? Is Sanji too reliant on his legs? Is Usopp too reliant on his slingshot?
Luffy could fight equally with a legend like Chinjao without using his DF that much
 

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And also using Gear 2. I forget, where does that stem from?
I said fought equally, not getting the upper hand. He was fighting equally with Chinjao in base. When using gear second or 3, he was always kicking his ass
 

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I said fought equally, not getting the upper hand. He was fighting equally with Chinjao in base. When using gear second or 3, he was always kicking his ass

Except nah, he and Chinjao matched blows while he was in Gear 2. Please, try again.
 

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Except nah, he and Chinjao matched blows while he was in Gear 2. Please, try again.
Except nah. Chinjao never matched him in gear second in the manga(only in the filler episode). Luffy only used gears two times in the manga(for riffle and thor) and each of the times, he kicked Chinjao's ass
 

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Except nah. Chinjao never matched him in gear second in the manga(only in the filler episode). Luffy only used gears two times in the manga(for riffle and thor) and each of the times, he kicked Chinjao's ass

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It's hard to tell in the second page, but he is using Gear 2, you can see the distinct plume of smoke Oda draws for Gear 2 there.s
 

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Luffy wins
Is above Law, always has been, always will be

in my opinion
 
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