DBZ is not faster than light other than whis.

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Beerus was not fighting vegeta anywhere near his full power and no Gohan's ki was greater than trunks
Of course he wasn't but it still applies basically.

Wtf I wasn't talking about Gohan nor Trunks. I meant Recoome and Burter.



 

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I'm just basing it off Toriyama's comment regarding whis's level compared to the other two
akira, he also stated buu to be omnipotent. LMAO.

Even so. I don't really see how it Ameliorates whiss to such an extent. We need to see him in action to properly propitiate him in debates and aver his true strength. Since they are relied on feats and in turn, PS and etc.
 
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BOTG was still a huge upgrade to combat speed with the mftl feat. Obviously whis is way more powerful than goku or beerus, but it's not really a power scaling abuse to say that if you think whis gets the mftl reactions they should get in a lower degree.

Edit: and no I don't mean combat speed in the way DBZ wankers have used it in the past I just mean their reactions.
It's likely the staff, and what does them scaled to SSJG and bills say for his speed? You can have a tremendous power flux in this series and still be in the same speed level. A boost to MFTL for fight speed is insane.
Where did you get this stuff from, because he's never fought on screen?



Again, being stronger with Ki doesn't mean you're also much, much faster. Prime example would be Recoome and Burter, where both had same Ki level but Burter was much faster and maybe Recoome stronger.
Not that, it's because Whis kinda didn't appear mobile in the galaxy staff state, unless you were trolling and I just fell for it.
Idk unless the person is just ridiculously faster I can see him fighting them and you can make the argument goku could fight extremely fast opponents via IT and his reactions
Goku has FTL or mftl bare reactions in this point in time, and not even insane ftl like dark schneider, PC supes, saint seiya, TTGL, etc. Galaxy in 28 minutes? Even if he can react to whis flying like this, doesn't really matter. Someone far faster blitzes and obliterates him before he even gets to concentrate IT, gg.
I'm just basing it off Toriyama's comment regarding whis's level compared to the other two
 

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akira, he also stated buu to be omnipotent. LMAO.

Even so. I don't really see how it Ameliorates whiss to such an extent. We need to see him in action to properly propitiate him in debates and aver his true strength. Since they are relied on feats and in turn, PS and etc.
I really think that either the numbers weren't too far off or Toriyama was smoking some shit.
 

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It's likely the staff, and what does them scaled to SSJG and bills say for his speed? You can have a tremendous power flux in this series and still be in the same speed level. A boost to MFTL for fight speed is insane.

Not that, it's because Whis kinda didn't appear mobile in the galaxy staff state, unless you were trolling and I just fell for it.

Goku has FTL or mftl bare reactions in this point in time, and not even insane ftl like dark schneider, PC supes, saint seiya, TTGL, etc. Galaxy in 28 minutes? Even if he can react to whis flying like this, doesn't really matter. Someone far faster blitzes and obliterates him before he even gets to concentrate IT, gg.
Lol I know those series still shit on them in everything the most concrete boost was to their DC and those series still far outclass them. I think akira (and obviously this is just an assumption on my part) is trying to make DB into a heavyweight verse to some extent but concrete speed feats have always been what he's the worst at giving us, at least that's always how I saw it.
 

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Come at me, I will debunk anything you have to say.

Disincluding IT as that is teleportation, but by all means argue it.

Power level =/= speed. You can't multiply it like that. Yes, when you train and your power level increases your speed can to, but by what exact number? It's not equivalent to speed. The only multiplier that it states correlates with speed is kaioken. SSJ boosts speed obviously, but multiplies by 50 with the power level? I don't think so. Never given any exact confirmation that it correlates with speed.

Any volunteers?
umm yes he was even post frieza saga base goku was faster than light GG
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dude... DB roshi's max kamehameha reached the moon within a few seconds... how are they not faster than light in Z if in DB their energy beams are almost comparable to the speed of light?
 

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dude... DB roshi's max kamehameha reached the moon within a few seconds... how are they not faster than light in Z if in DB their energy beams are almost comparable to the speed of light?
DB had too many gag feats, then there's the inconsistency with the ki blasts used on earth. Also Hercule aka Mr. Satan was able to avoid a few.

fail thread OP, give yourself over 9000 slaps and then re-watch DBZ
Why don't you go READ the manga, slap yourself.

Bills is FTL. Gotenks is at least Mach 2500 in SS3. Bills is much stronger than Gotenks...by powerscaling Bills is definitely FTl
Gotenks took 29 mins to fly around the planet multiple times proven by the 30 min fusion also he's cocky lying about tking a nap which he didn't take because they take one after the fusion was over and that was moments after he claimed he took a nap.
 

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Characters at the very start of DBZ are faster than the speed of light, i.e. Raditz, Nappa, Scouter Vegeta, etc. Any Saiyan that transforms into a Super Saiyan is MULTIPLE times faster than the speed of light. Their energy waves also move at FTL.


Gotenks took 29 mins to fly around the planet multiple times proven by the 30 min fusion also he's cocky lying about tking a nap which he didn't take because they take one after the fusion was over and that was moments after he claimed he took a nap.
You're really taking the piss now with your irrelevant trolling. Change your avatar to troll boy because that's you! Gotenks took mere seconds to fly around the Earth multiple times. Your mind is just too weak and feeble to understand how fast and strong these characters so it's obvious you would come up with more nonsense and say they're lying when it's you who's in the wrong.
 
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