Every bushin has a set amount of chakra in them because thats how they're made. When Naruto uses bushins hes dividing his stamina. If 1 normal punch or kick is enough to make a clone go poof then chakra amount put in that clone is a weak amount. When Naruto used KM clones they were able to fight against the past kages with help because of kuramas chakra backing them.
That's the author's statement. Who should I consider valid. You, or the manga? I think we all know who is more valid. Didn't Kakashi have Sharingan last I checked?
He does in a way. CS is like Sage Mode, and Juugo's cells (Origin of CS) in his body made Senjutsu PS. He's probably capable of drawing in Senjutsu chakra with experience. :|
1 @bold: If they have an "uncomparible" amount of chakra, that means it can not be compared, which means they aren't equal.
2. Kakashi was comparing Sakura's reserves to the reserves of both Naruto and Sasuke. Sakura shamed them both in chakra control, but Kakashi was stating it doesn't matter since they both ultimately have more chakra than she does. In no way were his words stating Sasuke and Naruto have similar chakra control.
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Notice Kakashi says that he isn't suitable to train with clones because his reserve limit makes it harder for him to hold up his clones for very long. What is relevant about this?
1. It tells us that using Multi-shadow clone is more than simply dividing your chakra, you also need to use chakra to maintain the jutsu, thus bigger reserves=better multi-shadow clone jutsu
2. It also tells us that Naruto is the only one that Kakashi knows of who can use this training method since those were also his exact words. And if Naruto is the only one capable of doing this, that means he is the only one with the reserves for it that Kakashi knows of.
That is a conjunction which is used to create a list. It's 5th grade English. Your logic is wrong, simple.
That is a monologue. It doesn't matter who he was comparing them to, the fact remains, you are grasping at straws. Kakashi's statement is clear cut and straightforward that both Naruto and Sasuke have very large reserves. Given that the guy has Sharingan and it can see chakra, I'll take his opinion gladly.
What'e relevant that you brought up the point that his reserves are twice as much. So twice as much chakra of a TINY reserve bank, equals mountains of it? That is why it is relevant.
Irrelevant. How does that prove that Sasuke's are small?
It is because of Kurama and the seal that naturally mixes Kurama's chakra with his own. Which why Yamato was even sitting there, to prevent more from spilling out. Again, irrelevant, as we are talking about the reserves without Kurama here.
Every bushin has a set amount of chakra in them because thats how they're made. When Naruto uses bushins hes dividing his stamina. If 1 normal punch or kick is enough to make a clone go poof then chakra amount put in that clone is a weak amount. When Naruto used KM clones they were able to fight against the past kages with help because of kuramas chakra backing them.
He was comparing them to sakura. He never said that they have equally large chakra. you're twisting the words that he said just because they both have bigger reserves than sakura, that means they have the same chakra level.
naruto's been wanked all over the manga for his reserves. His clone feats suggest that he has bigger chakra than sasuke. Sasuke in part one was tired after a while, all when naruto was using clones. Also uchiha's been praised for their quality, not quantity. that's why hashirama was the one with more chakra than madara, but with lesser quality.
Why does it matter? Where is your proof that Sasuke's reserves are much smaller when Kakashi is stating that they are not? AND conjunction is used to create a comparable list. It's basic English. Don't say I am twisting scans when you have yet to post a single scan to prove your own thread.
Who has wanked his base reserves? Let's see the scans. They don't suggest anything, when you have zero proof from the actual source material to validate this. Indra's reincarnation, Uchiha Clan, and Kakashi's statement all back me up that Sasuke's reserves are large. And I have actually posted scans to back it up.
Really? That scan suggests otherwise. They have been praised both for their reserves and powerful chakra. Hashirama is an exception in the entire manga. Don't try and validate your point by using Hashirama as an example whose chakra urinates all over Naruto's base reserves even if we multiply them by hundred.
That is a conjunction which is used to create a list. It's 5th grade English. Your logic is wrong, simple.
That is a monologue. It doesn't matter who he was comparing them to, the fact remains, you are grasping at straws. Kakashi's statement is clear cut and straightforward that both Naruto and Sasuke have very large reserves. Given that the guy has Sharingan and it can see chakra, I'll take his opinion gladly.
What'e relevant that you brought up the point that his reserves are twice as much. So twice as much chakra of a TINY reserve bank, equals mountains of it? That is why it is relevant.
Irrelevant. How does that prove that Sasuke's are small?
It is because of Kurama and the seal that naturally mixes Kurama's chakra with his own. Which why Yamato was even sitting there, to prevent more from spilling out. Again, irrelevant, as we are talking about the reserves without Kurama here.
given the fact that he was solely comparing their chakras to sakura and not to each other is not proving your argument.
Kakashi never had tiny amount. He was fatigued because of lacking the uchiha body. He was spamming kamui and techniques during the war, which speaks of his chakra volume
His point is Naruto's stamina
He's reserves without kurama was shown in op. It was while he was in a forest for days constantly running and fighting.
given the fact that he was solely comparing their chakras to sakura and not to each other is not proving your argument.
Kakashi never had tiny amount. He was fatigued because of lacking the uchiha body. He was spamming kamui and techniques during the war, which speaks of his chakra volume
His point is Naruto's stamina
He's reserves without kurama was shown in op. It was while he was in a forest for days constantly running and fighting.
And it's proving yours? All you have is a bunch of self-made assumptions based on the single fact that Naruto can make Kage Bushins. If that is your sole argument, then what is stopping Sasuke from making them now, when he can make practically by the thousands when he has half of the sage's chakra? He doesn't use them. It's not his fighting style.
I have already posted a scan in this very thread. Straight from the horse's mouth: My reserves are TINY / LITTLE.
Still doesn't prove your comparison. You have yet to give me one substantial proof that Sasuke's base reserves are smaller. All you are giving me is that Naruto can make clones, so he stomps Sasuke's reserves. When the manga has said otherwise through three sources.
Why does it matter? Where is your proof that Sasuke's reserves are much smaller when Kakashi is stating that they are not? AND conjunction is used to create a comparable list. It's basic English. Don't say I am twisting scans when you have yet to post a single scan to prove your own thread.
Who has wanked his base reserves? Let's see the scans. They don't suggest anything, when you have zero proof from the actual source material to validate this. Indra's reincarnation, Uchiha Clan, and Kakashi's statement all back me up that Sasuke's reserves are large. And I have actually posted scans to back it up.
Really? That scan suggests otherwise. They have been praised both for their reserves and powerful chakra. Hashirama is an exception in the entire manga. Don't try and validate your point by using Hashirama as an example whose chakra urinates all over Naruto's base reserves even if we multiply them by hundred.
Your witless head will take you far. Or maybe a couple of yards on wards.
kakashi is saying sasuke's chakra is big compared to sakura. It would be really stupid of kishi if he had said something like "Naruto and Sasuke both have larger chakra reserves than sakura, but Naruto's chakra is bigger than sasuke's".
I never denied his reserves were large, but smaller than naruto's.
The point of hashirama was that uchihas are known for their potency, not quantity. That scan of yours was back when uchihas were only relevant, and we had no feats from hashirama.
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Uchiha were stated to be potent in chakra, just like how kurama called madara more sinister than himself
I think Naruto has more reserves, but Sasuke has better quality. So it works out equally-ish. But, it's impossible to say from the point of view if Naruto never had any Bijuu sealed in him.
Naruto can't use FRS unless in SM,atleast during the Pain Invasion Arc.I don't know if he can do it in Base Mode now,but he did do FRS in SM in chapter 560,other times may have been in Kyuubi mode.I don't think he's ever done it in base.
The sage said that because Ashura's power had not bloomed. He obviously thought Indra had just inherited his power at that point because they were young boys. He was proven wrong when Ashura's power bloomed, and it was greater than Indras.
Lifeforce = chakra
Indra got the yin power of his chakra, thats what affects the quality. Ashura got the yang power, its quantity.
