Brothers...? (Kabuto + Sasuke) take a gauntlet

[Brother Numpsay]

Lol Sasuke soloing this gauntlet is a bad joke. BSM Naruto, Hashirama, and Edo Madara all beat him. He'd stop at Naruto even with help from Kabuto.

Ill do an official debate wit you. Sasuke vs.hashirama

Cause you know using kabuto would rustle some jimmies

 

[Inert Brian]

Lol Sasuke soloing this gauntlet is a bad joke. BSM Naruto, Hashirama, and Edo Madara all beat him. He'd stop at Naruto even with help from Kabuto.

Agreed that Sasuke can at least solo up to BSM Naruto.

BSM Naruto beating Sasuke alone is already a high difficulty fight. Kabuto can tip the scales even if a little with hindrances such as Kidomaru's webs (besides Bijuu damas, how will he remove the webs when it is stuck to him? Nuking himself?) Kimimaro's bone forest, and Muki Tensei will also be hindrances by stabbing his feet. Giving Sauce a potential win.

Madara and Hashi potentially lose to Tayuya's flute while being distracted by Sasuke.

 

[KidGamer65]

Ill do an official debate wit you. Sasuke vs.hashirama

Cause you know using kabuto would rustle some jimmies

Too busy for long official debates now that school has started. lol, and its possible that he could beat him anyway. Might as well just get to the main point right here. How does his flying PS beat Shinsuusenju? Sure, he can cut the hands with PS's slash, but that won't cut all of them at once, meaning the ones that aren't being cut slam down into his Susanoo and he gets crushed, or 2 hands hold is PS's arms or blades, and then the rest pummel it.

If PS and Kurama failed, PS alone won't succeed.

Agreed that Sasuke can at least solo up to BSM Naruto.

BSM Naruto beating Sasuke alone is already a high difficulty fight. Kabuto can tip the scales even if a little with hindrances such as Kidomaru's webs (besides Bijuu damas, how will he remove the webs when it is stuck to him? Nuking himself?) Kimimaro's bone forest, and Muki Tensei will also be hindrances by stabbing his feet. Giving Sauce a potential win.

Madara and Hashi potentially lose to Tayuya's flute while being distracted by Sasuke.

Madara would lose for that reason, Hashirama, no, because PS can't match Shinsuusenju alone, as shown when Madara had Kurama and PS, but still failed to defeat the statue without having his own offense and defense shut down. PS being able to fly, doesn't give it the power needed to take on SS.

As for Naruto. The only issue is that he can fly, and depending on how fast he flies, he can evade Bijuu Dama. IDK if OP meant to scale the Susanoo's flight speed to his current one or Kakashi's. Even then, the AoE of Bijuu Dama allows Naruto to still hit him despite his flight capabilities, other than that, there is no issue. A slightly stronger Susanoo won't let him get past the BSM cloak, which is basically the cloak that took the Juubi's laser, enhanced with Sage Mode, nor will he tank multiples of Naruto's strongest Bijuu Dama, which can be enhanced by Senjutsu.

Bone Forest and Muki Tensei are worthless here. Neither can penetrate the BM cloak let alone the BSM cloak. Kidomaru's webs have to actually get around Naruto first, and he has plenty of ways to prevent that from happening (Rasen Shuriken, Bijuu Dama, evading them)

 

[RustledJimmies]

Lol Sasuke soloing this gauntlet is a bad joke. BSM Naruto, Hashirama, and Edo Madara all beat him. He'd stop at Naruto even with help from Kabuto.

Edo Madara isn't beating him with the conditions, however, I do agree that Hashirama and Naruto would win.

 

[KidGamer65]

Edo Madara isn't beating him with the conditions, however, I do agree that Hashirama and Naruto would win.

All he has is a Susanoo that can fly. He still isn't going to break through Edo Madara's Susanoo, meaning he gets outlasted. He's barely going to overpower it considering its only slightly stronger.

 

[RustledJimmies]

All he has is a Susanoo that can fly. He still isn't going to break through Edo Madara's Susanoo, meaning he gets outlasted. He's barely going to overpower it considering its only slightly stronger.

OP stated that he has a PS stronger than Madara's, so he should be able to eventually break through Madara's PS, otherwise he loses.

 

[KidGamer65]

OP stated that he has a PS stronger than Madara's, so he should be able to eventually break through Madara's PS, otherwise he loses.

Slightly stronger. Not enough of a difference to let Sasuke completely overpower and break through Susanoo.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

How does his flying PS beat Shinsuusenju?

By taking advantage of PS mobility over SS and cutting down SS with spacing/distance

Sure, he can cut the hands with PS's slash, but that won't cut all of them at once, meaning the ones that aren't being cut slam down into his Susanoo and he gets crushed,

@Bold: That the problem. Sasuke does NOT have to attack SS hands, what I found Madara doing that against Hashirama was completely stupid for not aiming for its cornerstone. Sasuke takes advantage with its shockwave and aim for Buddha's body. Therefore falls

or 2 hands hold is PS's arms or blades, and then the rest pummel it.

Sasuke knows about the story of Hashirama beating Kurama+PS in CQC, he isn't going to fight the same way Madara did and Hashirama isn't going to reach Sasuke with PS mobility and flight.

 

[Blunt]

Lmao, I still don't see how SS is taking out a flying Susano'o. Unless someone can give a logical explanation on how SS is even hitting Susano'o, let alone connect enough times to do notable damage, I'm positive Hashirama loses.

Sasuke can use his wings as a buffer to further protect his Susanoo's main body, (if) it ever came down to getting pummeled, which it wouldn't. The only thing EMS Madara's PS coating Kurama added was firepower, it actually made it's defense weaker, as it stretched further, the armour became thinner.

 

[ARGUS]

I don't understand what you mean by What PS does ems sasuke have here???
Either way they are not beating BSM Naruto, hashirama and madara

 

[Blunt]

I don't understand what you mean by What PS does ems sasuke have here???
Either way they are not beating BSM Naruto, hashirama and madara

OP specified flying Susano'o that is "slightly more powerful" than Madara's.

 

[Unorthodox]

Sasuke clears Lel at BM Naruto even being a factor when V2 susanoo with chakra cloak was portayed as is equal

Hashirama gets fodderized by flying enton coated ps swords

 

[KidGamer65]

Lmao, I still don't see how SS is taking out a flying Susano'o. Unless someone can give a logical explanation on how SS is even hitting Susano'o, let alone connect enough times to do notable damage, I'm positive Hashirama loses.

Sasuke can use his wings as a buffer to further protect his Susanoo's main body, (if) it ever came down to getting pummeled, which it wouldn't. The only thing EMS Madara's PS coating Kurama added was firepower, it actually made it's defense weaker, as it stretched further, the armour became thinner.

Lol, lets not go there. How would the armor stretch from covering a smaller entity? Lmao.

@Bold: That the problem. Sasuke does NOT have to attack SS hands, what I found Madara doing that against Hashirama was completely stupid for not aiming for its cornerstone. Sasuke takes advantage with its shockwave and aim for Buddha's body. Therefore falls

Or Hashirama uses the 1000 hands to protect the main body, considering it took the explosion of 11 Bijuu Dama to eradicate them. So no, he'll have to go through the hands regardless.


Though I guess Sasuke can take this.

Sasuke clears Lel at BM Naruto even being a factor when V2 susanoo with chakra cloak was portayed as is equal

V3 Susanoo wasn't portrayed as anything near equal to the BSM Avatar.

 

[Blunt]

Lol, lets not go there. How would the armor stretch from covering a smaller entity? Lmao

Madara Kyuubi coated PS had no additional armour aside from the shoulder pads, the rest was the flaked Tengu armour. Madara's lone PS has additional armour on the entirety of the construct.. Take a look at this spoiler, to see what I mean.

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Do you notice that? Regardless of all that, all im saying is in terms of durability, Madara's lone PS is superior.

 

[ATD]

Stops at 2
Tsunade uses her byakou to give kakashi a big chakra source and he starts Kamuing sasuke, while 7 gate guy keeps kabuto busy with godlike taijutsu until kakashi is ready to snipe kabuto, too.
I don't think kamui is instant, but its faster than Kcm naruto > V2 ay > amaterasu > susanno arrows
flying susanno isn't that fast it will be kamuied like the 8 tails.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara Kyuubi coated PS had no additional armour aside from the shoulder pads, the rest was the flaked Tengu armour. Madara's lone PS has additional armour on the entirety of the construct.. Take a look at this spoiler, to see what I mean.

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Do you notice that? Regardless of all that, all im saying is in terms of durability, Madara's lone PS is superior.

Madara's lone PS doesn't have additional armor, it has the same armor, but with a different look. Flaked Tengu Armor isn't under lone PS's visible armor.

 

[Rιver]

I agree with Blunt; although in rough size they are similar, the Kyūbi is bigger because his tails are bigger or the size of his entire body. In order to fit in, the Susano'O would undoubtedly need to stretch or decrease it's armor levels to the minimum. That also may be the reason why the Susano'O wasn't so thick when Shin Sūsenju destroyed it.

It's either that or Madara's Susano'O is casually much bigger than the full Kyūbi, which I doubt.​

 

[Blunt]

Madara's lone PS doesn't have additional armor, it has the same armor, but with a different look. Flaked Tengu Armor isn't under lone PS's visible armor.

Regardless, unless you are implying this Susano'o coating

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Is thicker than the heavy amount of armour on PS, than his lone PS has superior durability.

 

[KidGamer65]

Regardless, unless you are implying this Susano'o coating

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Is thicker than the heavy amount of armour on PS, than his lone PS has superior durability.

Its not thicker. Its exactly the same. There is literally no difference between the durability of Madara's lone PS, and when its armored onto Kurama.

I agree with Blunt; although in rough size they are similar, the Kyūbi is bigger because his tails are bigger or the size of his entire body. In order to fit in, the Susano'O would undoubtedly need to stretch or decrease it's armor levels to the minimum. That also may be the reason why the Susano'O wasn't so thick when Shin Sūsenju destroyed it.

It's either that or Madara's Susano'O is casually much bigger than the full Kyūbi, which I doubt.

Kurama, minus its tails was shown to be the same size as Legless Mokujin, which was the same size as Madara's V4 Susanoo, without legs. PS completely dwarfs a legless V4 from Madara, so even when you take into account Kurama's tails, PS is still larger.

 

[Blunt]

I'm pretty sure you can see the difference in the armor, if one armor is thinner than the other, but they're still the same material, which one would offer more protection? Anyone can see his lone PS has far thicker armor, it's literally clear to the eyes.