Obito telling Kakashi and Naruto and Yamato apparently wasn't enough...
Sasuke was still "bad" then.Now that he's on the good side,everyone should be fine.
Obito telling Kakashi and Naruto and Yamato apparently wasn't enough...
Lololoolololololollloloololo wut??!?!?People are saying sasuke need to redeem himself. smh, **** that! That village need to redeem itself once everybody learn the truth about the uchiha clan and itachi's mission. Second thought, they should know all about Danzo's activities through out history. So making sasuke the next hokage is not enough. The fire nation should give him half the nation and give him feudal lord or captain commander position too!
I'm not saying he's justified for what he did, but whether or not they think he is, is simply irrelevant to him. The guy is fighting to save the world right now though, so they'll get over it.Very true but apparently being a rogue ninja is the same as killing people within your own village...speaking of that *cough gaara cough*
The rest of Konoha 11 beg to differSasuke was still "bad" then.Now that he's on the good side,everyone should be fine.
Redemption is another heavy theme to Naruto. He'll be pardoned.. His actions were reprehensible, but it'sThey may care, but it does not excuse his actions.
You call it selfish, I call it ambitious.Only kakashi , naruto and sakura knew about his dream, Tsunade and the other elders didn't know about his fodder dream .also how would you know if he was going to return or not? And also he did some missions for oro ,so in other word's he left his village and went for the enemy for his own reasons which is soooooooo selfish,
He joins so they will assist him in carrying out his revenge. I don't think he cared whether they were a terrorist organisation or a charity group. He would go to such lengths to carry out his revenge and try restore the uchiha name, ambitious behavior. Also his brother treated him like shit after the massacre, leading him into a life of hatred so forgive sasuke for not following his brother's wishes when his brother spat on sasuke's and treated him like a little puppy instead of trusting him and telling him the truth. Itachi even said this to sasuke.and on top of that instead going by his brother word's he went full retard and joined a terrorist organization named "akatsuki" who were not only the village enemies but the 5 great nation's.
He didn't believe him initially that's why he asked danzo, then itachi when he came back and he even asked hiruzen when he came back.and then he meets a random guy who tells him about his brother and the funny thing is he believes him!!!!!!!
I agree with you here. He went crazy and wanted to destroy the leaf and kill all the people. The leaf did massacre everyone in the uchiha clan including innocent people so he thought he should do the same to the leaf as an uchiha member. This is crazy but understandable. He should have killed danzo for sure though and maybe the villages elders for his revenge but that's it.Then he suddenly wants to destroy the village without making sure of the random guy words, then he attacks the hokage of the village and then he gets mad and kills him WTF
None taken.Say what you want to say but sasuke is unstable emo boy who wants to get everything(no offense sasuke fans) U.U
It doesn't matter what Sasuke wanted, he still betrayed the leaf and joined their enemy who recently just attacked them, killed Gaara's dad, used the Sand village to attack Konoha, resulted in Hiruzen's death and Sasuke went to join him. Turning evil wasn't Sasuke's destiny, you can choose your own destiny, he could have easily stayed in Konoha and trained with Gai to improve his speed, physical strength, and Taijutsu, train with Kurenai to learn to use Genjutsu, train with Kakashi in learning to master his Sharingan and utilize the copying ability. He just wanted the easy way to power which was Orochimaru who used drugs and/or forbidden jutsus to speed Sasuke's growth.Yes Sasuke leaving the village was a crime but the circumstances he was groing through was to be leading up to his destiny. So if someone were to leave a village to seek power to destroy evil, they have to be detained? Even if they do decide to take Sasuke into cutody after the war, its not like they will truly understand why he did the activities, to get where he is now... It's not fair for them to decide on the punishment when they havent seen it through his eyes. Besides everything he engaged in was for a good cause and the hatred interfered.
Also, I still don't understand why Sakura wanted to keep Sasuke from leaving the village.
She was like the only person who tried to intervene...
Sasuke has told team 7 from the beginning that his number 1priority was to kill Itachi, and they were like "eh, ok.." So why all of a sudden Tsunade sends a squad to retrieve him, and in Shippuden she sends even more! What does he have to do with you guys. He was going to return after the battle with Itachi. It is not their business, and he is an Uchiha. Whatever happened to villagers being satisfied with the extinction of Uchihas???
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No he doesn't, he was duty bound as an official ninja of Konoha. It's the Uchihas who are responsible for their extinction, if they worked on controlling themselves then they would still be around and have more political power in the village. Only a few Uchihas like Itachi, Shisui, and Shisui's dad weren't responsible for the Uchiha's extinction.Sasuke has the right to do whatever he wants as its the leaf village that was responsible for the extinction of his clan.
No he doesn't, the Uchihas were the ones who threated peace so them receiving the consequences of their actions only shows that Sasuke show receive the consequences of his criminal activities as well. No one would trust political power to people from a clan who members would run wild when they lose something they love and be consume with hatred. If they were more like Itachi, Shisui and his dad then they would have political power and be living in the villages and not the outskirts. No one would want to live by people who can run wild at anytime something bad happens to them.Sasuke has the right to do whatever he wants, peace was achieved by the sacrifice of his clan and family and the suffering of his dear brother. Sasuke for Hokage and he should still kill the elders.
No, it's the same as a person in the military ditching their duty to do as they like except Sasuke joined an international criminal who just attacked Konoha. You think Sasuke joining Orochimaru would be viewed as a good thing? Becoming an official ninja made Sasuke duty bound to protect and serve his village as every other ninja do as well.Very true but apparently being a rogue ninja is the same as killing people within your own village...speaking of that *cough gaara cough*
Nope, his actions were still selfish and dark and he didn't care who he hurt. He could have stayed in Konoha to accomplished the same goal but he didn't.If they learned the truth then they probably would forgive him.
You think they would openly trust the word of their enemy without doing any proper investigation? Kakashi told Naruto not to tell any one for that very reason and even if they found out it was true, what would that do? They would know the Uchihas tried to do a coup and Itachi and the mask man took them out. This would make everyone view the Uchihas as bad and Itachi as being one of the few good Uchihas. That wouldn't save Sasuke in no way since he betrayed the leaf to kill one of their heroes.Obito telling Kakashi and Naruto and Yamato apparently wasn't enough...
Um, no. Sasuke not being punish would send the wrong message of you being able to do whatever you like as long as you have a sad past. Punishing Sasuke and having him redeem himself would be the proper message. If you commit a crime, you suffer the consequences; Madara's was death, Obito's was death, but Sasuke gets to live because he is fighting for survival? No.Punished? ... After saving the entire world? ... Nah. That's unfortunately fanfiction for those who dislike Sasuke..
This is a Shounen Manga, meaning it primarily embodies positive themes.. If they punish Sasuke for everything he's done before then the manga will turn into something completely outside the realm of positivity that redemption exists.
Sasuke being killed, dying at anytime during their youth, or punished for his past crimes is nothing but a sorry dream for some.
You want the village to redeem themselves for the Uchihas being a danger to them due to most Uchihas being sensitive and lose control when they lose something they love? The Uchiha caused their own deaths trying to plan a coup, had they been more like Itachi, Shisui and his dad then they would have political power, and be living in the village. Sasuke didn't know any of this when he leaf Konoha to join Orochimaru who is an international criminal who just attacked Konoha and resulted in the kazekage and Hokage's deaths. He also joins the very guy who helped Itachi kill the Uchihas and ignored Itachi's wishes for him to return to Konoha all because he was too obsessed with hatred.People are saying sasuke need to redeem himself. smh, **** that! That village need to redeem itself once everybody learn the truth about the uchiha clan and itachi's mission. Second thought, they should know all about Danzo's activities through out history. So making sasuke the next hokage is not enough. The fire nation should give him half the nation and give him feudal lord or captain commander position too!
No it's not irrelevant for him, he wants to become Hokage which is nominated by the Council and voted by the Jounins so it they don't see him as someone who is worthy to be Hokage then he will not become one. He's fighting to save the world because he wouldn't be in it if he didn't, he would be in It if he did nothing. Also he helped caused the current chaos so fighting to stop it does not redeem him when so many people died already. Shikamaru even said he wouldn't acknowledge Sasuke even though he's helping in the warI'm not saying he's justified for what he did, but whether or not they think he is, is simply irrelevant to him. The guy is fighting to save the world right now though, so they'll get over it.
It doesn't matter what Sasuke wanted, he still betrayed the leaf and joined their enemy who recently just attacked them, killed Gaara's dad, used the Sand village to attack Konoha, resulted in Hiruzen's death and Sasuke went to join him. Turning evil wasn't Sasuke's destiny, you can choose your own destiny, he could have easily stayed in Konoha and trained with Gai to improve his speed, physical strength, and Taijutsu, train with Kurenai to learn to use Genjutsu, train with Kakashi in learning to master his Sharingan and utilize the copying ability. He just wanted the easy way to power which was Orochimaru who used drugs and/or forbidden jutsus to speed Sasuke's growth.
Being in a ninja in a village means you are duty bound, will a soldier leaves the military without permission they go to jail until a hearing but if they leave to an enemy of their homeland when that enemy wants to destroy you then that's treason. Did you seriously just asked why Sakura tried to stop Sasuke from leaving Konoha when he was going to an enemy of Konoha who wants his body and he'll be seen as a criminal? It is there business, he is a ninja of Konoha and is duty bound. He also have intel on Konoha such as the layout, their emergency protol-call, ect... Sasuke was not planning on returning to Konoha, he knows that if he left that he couldn't return and he even stated that he severed his bonds with the leaf.
Sasuke only engaged in things that benefitted him, he didn't care if it was right or wrong, especially when it had to do with finding Itachi and after finding out the truth about Itachi. Sasuke could have easily stayed in Konoha and got stronger over time then hunt for Itachi in an official mission with team 7 but he was selfishly obsessed with hate.
No he doesn't, he was duty bound as an official ninja of Konoha. It's the Uchihas who are responsible for their extinction, if they worked on controlling themselves then they would still be around and have more political power in the village. Only a few Uchihas like Itachi, Shisui, and Shisui's dad weren't responsible for the Uchiha's extinction.
No he doesn't, the Uchihas were the ones who threated peace so them receiving the consequences of their actions only shows that Sasuke show receive the consequences of his criminal activities as well. No one would trust political power to people from a clan who members would run wild when they lose something they love and be consume with hatred. If they were more like Itachi, Shisui and his dad then they would have political power and be living in the villages and not the outskirts. No one would want to live by people who can run wild at anytime something bad happens to them.
No one acknowledge Sasuke as a comrade (except Naruto, Sakura, and Ino) or Hokage material in Konoha and you need to be nominated for Hokage candidate by the council then the Jounins all vote if they want you as Hokage or not. No one would nominate or vote for someone who left the village to join someone who recently attacked them before he joined them, joined a international criminal organization and attacked the Kages. Sasuke doesn't care for the villagers so why would they care for him?
No, it's the same as a person in the military ditching their duty to do as they like except Sasuke joined an international criminal who just attacked Konoha. You think Sasuke joining Orochimaru would be viewed as a good thing? Becoming an official ninja made Sasuke duty bound to protect and serve his village as every other ninja do as well.
Nope, his actions were still selfish and dark and he didn't care who he hurt. He could have stayed in Konoha to accomplished the same goal but he didn't.
You think they would openly trust the word of their enemy without doing any proper investigation? Kakashi told Naruto not to tell any one for that very reason and even if they found out it was true, what would that do? They would know the Uchihas tried to do a coup and Itachi and the mask man took them out. This would make everyone view the Uchihas as bad and Itachi as being one of the few good Uchihas. That wouldn't save Sasuke in no way since he betrayed the leaf to kill one of their heroes.
Um, no. Sasuke not being punish would send the wrong message of you being able to do whatever you like as long as you have a sad past. Punishing Sasuke and having him redeem himself would be the proper message. If you commit a crime, you suffer the consequences; Madara's was death, Obito's was death, but Sasuke gets to live because he is fighting for survival? No.
You want the village to redeem themselves for the Uchihas being a danger to them due to most Uchihas being sensitive and lose control when they lose something they love? The Uchiha caused their own deaths trying to plan a coup, had they been more like Itachi, Shisui and his dad then they would have political power, and be living in the village. Sasuke didn't know any of this when he leaf Konoha to join Orochimaru who is an international criminal who just attacked Konoha and resulted in the kazekage and Hokage's deaths. He also joins the very guy who helped Itachi kill the Uchihas and ignored Itachi's wishes for him to return to Konoha all because he was too obsessed with hatred.
No it's not irrelevant for him, he wants to become Hokage which is nominated by the Council and voted by the Jounins so it they don't see him as someone who is worthy to be Hokage then he will not become one. He's fighting to save the world because he wouldn't be in it if he didn't, he would be in It if he did nothing. Also he helped caused the current chaos so fighting to stop it does not redeem him when so many people died already. Shikamaru even said he wouldn't acknowledge Sasuke even though he's helping in the warYou must be registered for see links.
Orochimaru even said he is helping because if he doesn't then he can't do his experimentsYou must be registered for see links. He isn't fighting for anything good but his own survival, Sasuke isn't fighting because he wants to make amends for his crimes that helped the current chaos but because he wants to change the systems to fit his own vision of how it should be and become Hokage to make that happen. He doesn't care about the people, he even said he doesn't care what the K11 thought about what he did, to become Hokage you have to be acknowledged as one as Itachi told Naruto.
And helping revive the Juubi.Yup Sasuke trying to kill/capture Bee was a "good cause", I mean did you see how he looked at Sasuke. Off with his head!
-Attacking Killer Bee and taking Gyuuki's tail. Which lead to the revival of the Juubi a and many deaths(Neji, Inoichi, Shikaku, ect)-Leaving the village without the Hokage consent is a crime
-Trying to kill a member(Naruto) of the village is a crime
-Joining another village is a crime and a criminal of the same village(Orochimaru)
-Joining a terrorist organization is a crime(Akatsuki)
-Attacking the Hokage(Danzo) and the equivalent of the U.N is a crime
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well done my friend. well done.It doesn't matter what Sasuke wanted, he still betrayed the leaf and joined their enemy who recently just attacked them, killed Gaara's dad, used the Sand village to attack Konoha, resulted in Hiruzen's death and Sasuke went to join him. Turning evil wasn't Sasuke's destiny, you can choose your own destiny, he could have easily stayed in Konoha and trained with Gai to improve his speed, physical strength, and Taijutsu, train with Kurenai to learn to use Genjutsu, train with Kakashi in learning to master his Sharingan and utilize the copying ability. He just wanted the easy way to power which was Orochimaru who used drugs and/or forbidden jutsus to speed Sasuke's growth.
Being in a ninja in a village means you are duty bound, will a soldier leaves the military without permission they go to jail until a hearing but if they leave to an enemy of their homeland when that enemy wants to destroy you then that's treason. Did you seriously just asked why Sakura tried to stop Sasuke from leaving Konoha when he was going to an enemy of Konoha who wants his body and he'll be seen as a criminal? It is there business, he is a ninja of Konoha and is duty bound. He also have intel on Konoha such as the layout, their emergency protol-call, ect... Sasuke was not planning on returning to Konoha, he knows that if he left that he couldn't return and he even stated that he severed his bonds with the leaf.
Sasuke only engaged in things that benefitted him, he didn't care if it was right or wrong, especially when it had to do with finding Itachi and after finding out the truth about Itachi. Sasuke could have easily stayed in Konoha and got stronger over time then hunt for Itachi in an official mission with team 7 but he was selfishly obsessed with hate.
No he doesn't, he was duty bound as an official ninja of Konoha. It's the Uchihas who are responsible for their extinction, if they worked on controlling themselves then they would still be around and have more political power in the village. Only a few Uchihas like Itachi, Shisui, and Shisui's dad weren't responsible for the Uchiha's extinction.
No he doesn't, the Uchihas were the ones who threated peace so them receiving the consequences of their actions only shows that Sasuke show receive the consequences of his criminal activities as well. No one would trust political power to people from a clan who members would run wild when they lose something they love and be consume with hatred. If they were more like Itachi, Shisui and his dad then they would have political power and be living in the villages and not the outskirts. No one would want to live by people who can run wild at anytime something bad happens to them.
No one acknowledge Sasuke as a comrade (except Naruto, Sakura, and Ino) or Hokage material in Konoha and you need to be nominated for Hokage candidate by the council then the Jounins all vote if they want you as Hokage or not. No one would nominate or vote for someone who left the village to join someone who recently attacked them before he joined them, joined a international criminal organization and attacked the Kages. Sasuke doesn't care for the villagers so why would they care for him?
No, it's the same as a person in the military ditching their duty to do as they like except Sasuke joined an international criminal who just attacked Konoha. You think Sasuke joining Orochimaru would be viewed as a good thing? Becoming an official ninja made Sasuke duty bound to protect and serve his village as every other ninja do as well.
Nope, his actions were still selfish and dark and he didn't care who he hurt. He could have stayed in Konoha to accomplished the same goal but he didn't.
You think they would openly trust the word of their enemy without doing any proper investigation? Kakashi told Naruto not to tell any one for that very reason and even if they found out it was true, what would that do? They would know the Uchihas tried to do a coup and Itachi and the mask man took them out. This would make everyone view the Uchihas as bad and Itachi as being one of the few good Uchihas. That wouldn't save Sasuke in no way since he betrayed the leaf to kill one of their heroes.
Um, no. Sasuke not being punish would send the wrong message of you being able to do whatever you like as long as you have a sad past. Punishing Sasuke and having him redeem himself would be the proper message. If you commit a crime, you suffer the consequences; Madara's was death, Obito's was death, but Sasuke gets to live because he is fighting for survival? No.
You want the village to redeem themselves for the Uchihas being a danger to them due to most Uchihas being sensitive and lose control when they lose something they love? The Uchiha caused their own deaths trying to plan a coup, had they been more like Itachi, Shisui and his dad then they would have political power, and be living in the village. Sasuke didn't know any of this when he leaf Konoha to join Orochimaru who is an international criminal who just attacked Konoha and resulted in the kazekage and Hokage's deaths. He also joins the very guy who helped Itachi kill the Uchihas and ignored Itachi's wishes for him to return to Konoha all because he was too obsessed with hatred.
No it's not irrelevant for him, he wants to become Hokage which is nominated by the Council and voted by the Jounins so it they don't see him as someone who is worthy to be Hokage then he will not become one. He's fighting to save the world because he wouldn't be in it if he didn't, he would be in It if he did nothing. Also he helped caused the current chaos so fighting to stop it does not redeem him when so many people died already. Shikamaru even said he wouldn't acknowledge Sasuke even though he's helping in the warYou must be registered for see links.
Orochimaru even said he is helping because if he doesn't then he can't do his experimentsYou must be registered for see links. He isn't fighting for anything good but his own survival, Sasuke isn't fighting because he wants to make amends for his crimes that helped the current chaos but because he wants to change the systems to fit his own vision of how it should be and become Hokage to make that happen. He doesn't care about the people, he even said he doesn't care what the K11 thought about what he did, to become Hokage you have to be acknowledged as one as Itachi told Naruto.
Uchiha clan had no official plan. All they did was gather information and had mad meetings. It all the 3rd hokage and danzo fault for not giving them the benefit of the doubt for the 4th hokage death. It the 2nd hokage fault for not allowing them to have any political power. Just kept them out of government affair. You can't say judge a uchiha clan base off of Madara(Who lost all 4 brothers and his clan turned their back on him). That is like saying if one person from a clan rape a girl, that person's clan might rape a girl too. That is totally wrong.You want the village to redeem themselves for the Uchihas being a danger to them due to most Uchihas being sensitive and lose control when they lose something they love? The Uchiha caused their own deaths trying to plan a coup, had they been more like Itachi, Shisui and his dad then they would have political power, and be living in the village. Sasuke didn't know any of this when he leaf Konoha to join Orochimaru who is an international criminal who just attacked Konoha and resulted in the kazekage and Hokage's deaths. He also joins the very guy who helped Itachi kill the Uchihas and ignored Itachi's wishes for him to return to Konoha all because he was too obsessed with hatred.
loloolololPeople are saying sasuke need to redeem himself. smh, **** that! That village need to redeem itself once everybody learn the truth about the uchiha clan and itachi's mission. Second thought, they should know all about Danzo's activities through out history. So making sasuke the next hokage is not enough. The fire nation should give him half the nation and give him feudal lord or captain commander position too!