Hasashi Wants Revenge. O_O

[~Hasashi~]

It's over. You got hit my by ultimate combo. :|

A. for the millionth time i can ****ing avoid it

B. i have said it a million times it isn't just normal fire it is extremely hot fire
''hot enough to turn earth to lava instantly'' quote izuna uchiha can pwn all you

to further prove my point kishi in the manga basis his elements weakness on actual fact

wind=has a lot of oxygen the more oxygen the stronger the fire thats why fire-wind
fire=needs oxygen without it it cant breath hence water which has barely any oxygen
water=when you swin you push away the water to move you forward solid objects push away water hence earth-water
earth=can be smashed but things such as lightning hence -lightning-earth'
lightning=i really dont know
ice=ice is cold if heated by fire it melts

all these things are actual FACT its an actual fact that wood is fuel to fire wood burns and it burns way faster then earth turns to lava (on the average fire take a log of wood and a rock see what happens first) this fire is easily hot enough to burn it instantly that is fact you cant argue with fact a

and if you are gonna say that your wood is stronger all your description said was it was harder so lightning/wind S ranks wont harm it with one blow (hence why i used fire)



and tenzo that ''ultimate combo'' is extremely easy to avoid :|

 

[Adachi]

A. for the millionth time i can ****ing avoid it

B. i have said it a million times it isn't just normal fire it is extremely hot fire
''hot enough to turn earth to lava instantly'' quote izuna uchiha can pwn all you

to further prove my point kishi in the manga basis his elements weakness on actual fact

wind=has a lot of oxygen the more oxygen the stronger the fire thats why fire-wind
fire=needs oxygen without it it cant breath hence water which has barely any oxygen
water=when you swin you push away the water to move you forward solid objects push away water hence earth-water
earth=can be smashed but things such as lightning hence -lightning-earth'
lightning=i really dont know
ice=ice is cold if heated by fire it melts

all these things are actual FACT its an actual fact that wood is fuel to fire wood burns and it burns way faster then earth turns to lava (on the average fire take a log of wood and a rock see what happens first) this fire is easily hot enough to burn it instantly that is fact you cant argue with fact a

and if you are gonna say that your wood is stronger all your description said was it was harder so lightning/wind S ranks wont harm it with one blow (hence why i used fire)



and tenzo that ''ultimate combo'' is extremely easy to avoid :|

Don't be so confident. :| I just discovered the jutsus in the sharinganmaster hideout. :|
And Izuna quoted earth. :| Earth is soft material. If Kishi actually does, then why is wood = earth + water?

 

[~Hasashi~]

Don't be so confident. :| I just discovered the jutsus in the sharinganmaster hideout. :|
And Izuna quoted earth. :| Earth is soft material. If Kishi actually does, then why is wood = earth + water?

heh?

you think the mud wall you create is a soft material no they are hard this turns it to lava instantly plus earth isn't known to burn wood is

and b/c it is the only way it would make sense in his manga

tree is planted in the ground-rain makes tree grow-cut down tree and do some stuff making wood-wood burns :|


if you can give me actual facts (which none of you have even the sensei) i will admit i am wrong but until then i am standing with the fact that i am right

 

[Adachi]

heh?

you think the mud wall you create is a soft material no they are hard this turns it to lava instantly plus earth isn't known to burn wood is

and b/c it is the only way it would make sense in his manga

tree is planted in the ground-rain makes tree grow-cut down tree and do some stuff making wood-wood burns :|


if you can give me actual facts (which none of you have even the sensei) i will admit i am wrong but until then i am standing with the fact that i am right

I am tired of arguing. :|

 

[~Hasashi~]

tired of arguing give me ONE fact that proves i am wrong all you said was ''wood doesn't burn'' and things like that if you bought this to a jury then i would be right (lmao :|) i have broken it down so many times

to prove my point lava is about 1150 degrees F now think about it my fire turns earth to lava INSTANTLY fire that hot should burn your wood (which has nothing special to stop fire) just by getting near it you are saying that even on contact it doesn't burn right away WTF that makes no sense

what facts do you have to prove me wrong

 

[Adachi]

tired of arguing give me ONE fact that proves i am wrong all you said was ''wood doesn't burn'' and things like that if you bought this to a jury then i would be right (lmao :|) i have broken it down so many times

to prove my point lava is about 1150 degrees F now think about it my fire turns earth to lava INSTANTLY fire that hot should burn your wood (which has nothing special to stop fire) just by getting near it you are saying that even on contact it doesn't burn right away WTF that makes no sense

what facts do you have to prove me wrong

My facts are, I told you in the beginning. And about 10 other people confirmed it with you. So just take it easy man, or call off the fight. :|

 

[~Hasashi~]

My facts are, I told you in the beginning. And about 10 other people confirmed it with you. So just take it easy man, or call off the fight. :|

the only fact you said (i believe) is that wood doesn't burn that fast well what if i through lava at your wood would you agree it would burn instantly? probably and so would everyone else this is just as hot as fire obviously b/c it turns earth to lava instantly

 

[Riku..]

Guys, at two posts and three pages of arguing, I'd end the fight and say it never happened, not a win, not a loss, not a draw. But my opinion was asked for and so I shall give it.

*sigh*

i can see everywhere remember i can follow him while he flies fast without turning my head :|


i use

(kasai,furea ryou)Fire Style:Fire Flare skill
Rank:s
Type:Attack/Defence
Range:Short-Mid
Chakra Cost:40
Damage Points:80
Description:A skill in witch the user gathers Fire chakra into their own blood and summons forth a great Bird of fire.The Bird will follow the users command at will it can be used to defend or to attack.The bird can attack the opponent by making a huge ring of fire surrounding the opponent and then fires a huge Fire blaze flare straight downward toward the opponent causing severe injuries to the opponent.
(Can only be used by Mizutoki)

it goes straight at your dust dragon making it insanely biggest and stronger (it is also insanely fast and its fire can heat the earth to lava) while at the same time it shoots a blast of fire at your clones burning the wood to charcoal and it continues flying after you and your bird while i use

(Raiton: Ikazuchi no Kiba) - Lightning Release: Lightning Fang
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Mid
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user sends an electrical essence into the clouds, allowing them to create lightning strikes in the desired location.

right infront of he direction you were flying since your bird is as fast as you say it is kinda impossible for it to dodge in time or it slows it down a lot allowing my fire bird to catch it and burn you really bad then i use


(Raiton-(kunrin,ofu,ikazuchi)-Lightning Stlye: Reign of Thunder
Rank: S
Type:Attack
Range:long
Chakra Cost:40
Damage:80
Description:The user makes Several lightning rods and throws them around the opponent.The user then concentrates lighting chakra in hand and takes control of the lighting,lighting shoots down all around the rods and trap the opponent inside a dangerous barrier of lightning the user then uses lighting control and sends a reign of thunder,straight above the helpless opponent and into his/her body.
Note:can only be used twice per Battle.
(can only be used by Mizutoki)

around you clones (if they lived)

Dude. :| You can't control my dragon. :| And btw, I specifically stated my bird was in long range...your lightning move won't even come near me.
Your fire flame skill is nothing against my wood wall. :| Read the description. It's extremely durable. Anyhow, my clone releases his hold on the wood wall, making it break apart while it's flaming and letting it fall into the fissure. God, you forgotten about my three imperial gates, haven;t you? As the lightning rods come near my clones, the one clone controlling it sends two imperial gates to guard against it. He controls the other one to bring the other clone above to the surface, facing you directly across from the fissure. My clone that just escaped your fissure uses:
(Mokuton: Denkiteki Ki Itonami Ru-Tsu)-Wood Style: Legendary Tree of Life Roots
Rank: S
Type: supplementary
Range: Short-Long
Chakra Cost:40
Damage Points: N/A
Description: Roots from Yggdrasil, the Legendary Tree of Life, sprout out of the ground and bind the opponent and rapidly drains their chakra and replenishes the Users Chakra.
*Can only be used twice per battle
*Drains 100 chakra from opponent per round if they do not escape
To bind you and drain your chakra. At the same time, since you used your jutsu to inflame my dragon, I, upon my bird, sends it towards you to burn you up along with your wood. And if that didn't work, I also use:
(Doton: Doryuu Kekai) - Earth Style: Earth Fissure
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short/Long
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: N/A
Description: This jutsu splits the earth apart to make a fissure. The size of the fissure is proportioned to the amount of chakra of the user.
Directly beneath you so you fall in. Then the clone that just used the tree move uses:
(Doton: Uiten Pen) - Earth Style: Wheel Of Fortune
Rank: A
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Long
Chakra cost: 30
Damage Points: N/A Descripton: A form of summoning where the user first takes out a topographical map that they can use to change any earth-based feature of the battlefield.
Note: can only be used once per battle
To close up the fissure, killing you. :| Sorry man.

Alright... apparently these are the two posts you guys are having difficulty with. I'd have to agree with Hasashi, to an extent. Ok, first we have to remember one thing, fire in real life is nothing like fire in Naruto, nothing at all. Now, because of the description of the wood I don't believe it will burn it to charcoal, HOWEVER, the fire would more than most likely be able to burst through it. Ok, I want you to think about this. We're talking an S rank fire move. The S rank move was then made twice as powerful. Alright, remember the Sasuke-Itachi fight? If you need a reminder of this specific part, watch it preferably in the anime to get a good idea of how fire in Naruto works. This fire was able to burst through CONCRETE. This is A rank fire. Here we have something about twice as strong as S rank fire. It may not burn the wood to charcoal or whatever, but I'm more than confident that it would be enough to burst through the wood and hit you, more than confident. Fire is more tangible in Naruto, remember that. Another example of its tangibility is in the same fight when the fire was PUSHING against each other, that shows that each of the blasts were somewhat tangible. What I'm getting at is that even if wood takes time to burn, the fire bird would still be able to burst through the wood, and also burn it I suppose.

I don't know how much that does for Hasashi or Tenzo's arguement but from what I saw, the arguement was something about if the bird can go through the wood or whatever. If I'm replying to the wrong thing or if that doesn't resolve the arguement, then explain the conflict to me and I'll reply again.

 

[Adachi]

:| Goodness sakes. And you were talking about sticking to real life facts, Hasashi?
And I agree with Riku..
Redo the fight or something. :|

 

[~Hasashi~]

:| this proves my point entirely my fire bird becomes twice as strong and when it blasts (its a continuous blast of fire not just one fireball) it crushes the wood and continues to your clones who never defended themselves and it chases you on your bird :|

your turn

 

[Adachi]

:| this proves my point entirely my fire bird becomes twice as strong and when it blasts (its a continuous blast of fire not just one fireball) it crushes the wood and continues to your clones who never defended themselves and it chases you on your bird :|

your turn

Nope. One is nothing. If you want to go along with Naruto logic, than the water in wood will pwnt.

 

[~Hasashi~]

Nope. One is nothing. If you want to go along with Naruto logic, than the water in wood will pwnt.

*facepalm* wood may be made up of water and earth but it is a new element now just like -naruto- said it doesn't make sense

now go :|

 

[Riku..]

Nope. One is nothing. If you want to go along with Naruto logic, than the water in wood will pwnt.

No, it wouldn't. :| Fire still > Wood. The thing is, Naruto (the show) doesn't just make a completely new thing (in terms of elements), it still has many bases from the real world. That's like saying that a plant won't burn because there's water inside of it. :| Or a forest wouldn't burn because trees take in water as well, to relate it more closely to wood. It's not like when wood is chopped down a bunch of water blasts out of it. Wood in Naruto is based from earth and water, but it's not earth and water, it's wood, remember that. It's a different thing entirely. And even we did say that the water in it would defeat the fire or whatever and went along with your logic, there wouldn't even be nearly enough water in it to defeat that powerful of a fire, it would evaporate anyway. But that isn't how it goes in the first place.

 

[~Hasashi~]

No, it wouldn't. :| Fire still > Wood. The thing is, Naruto (the show) doesn't just make a completely new thing (in terms of elements), it still has many bases from the real world. That's like saying that a plant won't burn because there's water inside of it. :| Or a forest wouldn't burn because trees take in water as well, to relate it more closely to wood. It's not like when wood is chopped down a bunch of water blasts out of it. Wood in Naruto is based from earth and water, but it's not earth and water, it's wood, remember that. It's a different thing entirely. And even we did say that the water in it would defeat the fire or whatever and went along with your logic, there wouldn't even be nearly enough water in it to defeat that powerful of a fire, it would evaporate anyway. But that isn't how it goes in the first place.

thank you ^_^


thats what i said but a lot smarter now go tenzo ^_^

 

[Adachi]

Re: Hasashi Wants Revenge. O_z

thank you ^_^


thats what i said but a lot smarter now go tenzo ^_^

I'm sorry. I simply don't trust Riku..
One: I never talked to him before and he hardly battles/train on here, so I won't accept his opinion.
Two: Nero is the master of wood besides SY. Even Rag and Sinister said that the fire won't immediately burn the wood. :|

So, no.

 

[Riku..]

Re: Hasashi Wants Revenge. O_z

I'm sorry. I simply don't trust Riku..
One: I never talked to him before and he hardly battles/train on here, so I won't accept his opinion.
Two: Nero is the master of wood besides SY. Even Rag and Sinister said that the fire won't immediately burn the wood. :|

So, no.

Lol, dude, you don't have to trust me. I couldn't care less if you do.

But if I'm giving you facts that overrule what your saying, then unless you can say something that overrules what I'm saying or get Nero to do so, then you must be wrong. :|

And did you read my first post? I didn't say it would actually burn the wood in seconds, I said that it would be able to burst through it. I made like this whole thing about its tangibility and you're still bringing up the thing about the wood burning. >_>

 

[Gatsndshanks]

Re: Hasashi Wants Revenge. O_z

*sits back and lols*

 

[-Naruto Uzumaki-]

Re: Hasashi Wants Revenge. O_z

I'm sorry. I simply don't trust Riku..
One: I never talked to him before and he hardly battles/train on here, so I won't accept his opinion.
Two: Nero is the master of wood besides SY. Even Rag and Sinister said that the fire won't immediately burn the wood. :|

So, no.

I'm sorry, but that's a load of BS. Riku is right, believe it or not. The fire would break through the wood easily. It seems like you're way overestimating the wood element. Also, it makes no difference if Nero is a wood user or not. I am not a "master" of wood, meaning I don't use it, but does that mean I don't know about wood element as much as Nero? No. You would probably say yes, though.

Listen to everybody's opinions instead of just those who will back you up no matter what. Maybe you'll learn a little something.

Gats, tell everyone your opinion. >_>

 

[Alucard]

Tenzo's dragon would only make Hasashi's fire even stronger. A combo between fire+wind is strong enough to blast those wood gates, they can be extremly durable but Hasashi's move is now a Swind+Sfire agaisnt a Swood. So the wood gets destroyed almost instantly O_O

It's something gigantic, huge, it would obliterate the field, and you still think the wood gates are enough?


and you dont want to trust Riku because you just dont want to face the truth --' even if he doesnt fight often, that doesnt mean anything, he stills pwns you and ppl have things to do in life, the fact that they dont fight often (again) doesnt mean anything. Your arguments are failling, try to get some new ones.

 

[Caliburn]

Re: Hasashi Wants Revenge. O_z

I'm sorry. I simply don't trust Riku..
One: I never talked to him before and he hardly battles/train on here, so I won't accept his opinion.
Two: Nero is the master of wood besides SY. Even Rag and Sinister said that the fire won't immediately burn the wood. :|

So, no.

Tenzo, he's a sensei. If you don't trust a sensei (without a good reason) that means you don't trust the RP mods who made him a sensei. You don't have to agree with him, but if you don't accept his opinion you better stop rp.

I learned from all this that we apparantly need more clear guideluines about things like wood again. Using arguments that were based on things that were made during the time of SY are pretty irrelevant now as there have been a lot of changes.

Also I don't get the crap Rag was saying as wood is BASED on two elements, but it doesn't mean that it is a two-in-one element. If that would be the case it would mean that if you just focus earth chakra and water chakra together, you have wood and everybody should be able to do it.
Following this logic it would actually be completely impossible to make wood as earth is strong against water.
Things like wood and ice are based on the characteristics of two elements, however they are combined and the nature of the element changes. A previous strenght can become a weakness and vice versa.