Talent and Hardwork in team 7

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Did Kishi get it wrong?
For talent, wouldn't it be Sakura instead of Sasuke?

Even though Sasukes eyes is like a cheat code of some sort, he really did have to work hard for his sharrigan and other skills.
Like his shuriken jutsu, fireball,marchers skill. Etc.
And it wasn't until he got his sharrigan that he didn't have to work for anything, he just magically could perform things.
Is that really talent, it isn't hard work anymore, but I wouldn't call that talent either, it's more of a way of hack.in a sense.
If you think about it most of his hype is from the name Uchiha and not from his own character,

While Sakura, this character who is said to have no special ability, but that isn't the case.
Sakura was shown to be good at everything she did, and she never struggled at anything ( training wise)
That would be considered hard work for the normal person, but Sakura isn't normal. Kishi pretty much forces flaws on her to make her more mortal.
But other than that she has show more talent that Sasuke.
Natural at chakra control,( Sasuke had to work for it)
Natural at genjutsu dispelling, analyzing opponents and working out battle plans. ( seen in the chunnin exam arc)
Master medical ninjutsu with ease, and replicated jutsu that no one else could ( Tsunade jutsu)
Effortlessly store chakra in her forehead for three years.


Naruto Hardwork.
We seen struggle from him, and him actually battling his inner demons to overcome things,
So he is hard work , no problem.

So was Kishi wrong about Sasuke being the talent?

Even with Neji, he was talented because he learned things himself, and because he was compared to Hinata.
 
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Actually, Sakura had to work pretty hard for what she has accomplished. Sasuke on the other hand entered shippuden with vast knowledge of ninjutusu able to manipulate lightning and multiple shape manipulations. Everyone power up since then Sasuke has just applied principles that he learned with Orochimaru into new techniques. Being able to adapt and master/ effectively utilize techniques in such a short period would definitely be something that I would associate with someone with talent.

I will give it to you that Sakura is talented, but from the beginning she has been shown working hard to play catch up. As for Sasuke working hard.....................training is Sasuke's only hobby, he worked hard during his time with Orochimaru, but ppl often don't give it enough credit seeing how it happened off screen.
 
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Naruto never worked hard, he solely relied on the kyuubi. If the nine tails were never released and kushina didn't die where would he be? Sasuke is a uchiha and would have had the powers regardless because it is his bloodline
 

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They all worked hard, but compared to Sakura, they have nothing. Naruto, lets be serious...most of Naruto's strength progression came from outside sources such as Kurama and now Hagoromo. Sasuke has an inherited power, and most of his progression in strength came from his heritage. Sakura is the only one who truly worked hard for her power, and her current power is from her sweat. When it comes to actual talent and hard-work, she outclasses all 3: Kakashi, Naruto and Sasuke.
 

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And this why Sakura is a chunnin and her teammates aren't
Yes it is. Sakura should've passed it the first time round, but she really didn't have a teacher, kakshi was spjust assigned to them,

Her powers have been boring since the nineteen fucking ninety's
Awww, no mr. Grumpy,
ummm they are still genin dude.

naruto never passed the chuunin exams and sasuke is a missing nin and was a genin when he went missing
Yep.
Actually, Sakura had to work pretty hard for what she has accomplished. Sasuke on the other hand entered shippuden with vast knowledge of ninjutusu able to manipulate lightning and multiple shape manipulations. Everyone power up since then Sasuke has just applied principles that he learned with Orochimaru into new techniques. Being able to adapt and master/ effectively utilize techniques in such a short period would definitely be something that I would associate with someone with talent.

I will give it to you that Sakura is talented, but from the beginning she has been shown working hard to play catch up
I doubt it really though, the tree climbing exercise explained things perfectly, Sakura is the the type who goes by " show me once and I got it"
Sasuke is limited to mimicking....or practicing a bit,
Naruto would have to train very hard,

But if your refering to the yinseal, I doubt it was hard for her,we only got that impression because shizune failed to master it.
 
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Finally someone sees sakura for who she is. Sakura was the best in the group she just didn't apply herself as much in the beginning but later on she started to change the game. And even now sakura is doing more than sasuke. In fact if it wasn't for her advanced chakra control sasuke wouldn't even be here.
 

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Yes it is. Sakura should've passed it the first time round, but she really didn't have a teacher, kakshi was spjust assigned to them,
Yeah Kakashi favoritism is why Sakura had such a hard time. Tsunade's guidance was much better than Kakashi's imo.

my bad dude i didnt realize what you had said. i read it wrong
Yea, I kind of figured you did. It's an easy mistake so water under the bridge or whatever they say.
 

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What are you talking about? Naruto isn't about hardwork :|, he had the strongest bijuu within him. It was impossible for him to lose any battles. Sasuke is the definition of genius and talent, disagree?....Read the manga.
 

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Finally someone sees sakura for who she is. Sakura was the best in the group she just didn't apply herself as much in the beginning but later on she started to change the game. And even now sakura is doing more than sasuke. In fact if it wasn't for her advanced chakra control sasuke wouldn't even be here.
I don't think it was her to blame really. Kakashi wasn't cut out to be a teacher, and he wasn't even sensi like. He was going by the book, and only interested in Sasuke, because he as the easiest to teach.
Kakashi said it twice, Sakura was a genjutsu type, he knew if her potential, he knew how fast she learned jutsu, and how smart her was. But he ignored it and went to Sasuke, the Uchiha.
Favoritism. Tsunade should've been introduce when Jirayah was, but Sakura would've been to powerful.
Yeah Kakashi favoritism is why Sakura had such a hard time. Tsunade's guidance was much better than Kakashi's imo.



Yea, I kind of figured you did. It's an easy mistake so water under the bridge or whatever they say.
Tsunade was >>>>>>>> Kakashi to Sakura's development, Kakashi just barged about her talent, but never did anything about it.
 

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What are you talking about? Naruto isn't about hardwork :|, he had the strongest bijuu within him. It was impossible for him to lose any battles. Sasuke is the definition of genius and talent, disagree?....Read the manga.
Because Naruto had complete control of that power. Naruto had to work to control it. Work to master jutsu. Work to control his chakra , and work to pro form a simple rasengan.
That hard work.
If Naruto was anything like Sakura, natural talent, he'd be mito.
Naruto's problem was having all that power and not being able o control it,.
Mito had control over the foxes powers without befriending him,
I will agree that Sakura did have to work the hardest since she doesn't have any special talent or power like Naruto
I was kinda saying the opposite, it may seem that way but she didn't really. She was the only true talent.
Because she started of with perfect chakra control.
Chakra control is the basis to jutsu.
I'm not say she didn't put effort into becoming a strong ninja, I'm just saying she really started of that way, no growth. Her only flaws was lack of teaching/ direction and emotional problems , an inferiority complex
 
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