Is current Kaguya really stronger than Madara?

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Apart from the BS plot no jutsu of Black Zetsu stabbing Madara, Madara's limbo clones have been proven very useful in battle.

From what we see in this chapter, Kaguya has shit durability. Got hit by Sakura and shed some blood

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Meanwhile, Sakura couldn't even scratch Double Rinnegan Madara

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Point to be noted, Madara was completely unharmed by Naruto and Sasuke when he had double rinnegan. All the thrashing Madara received from Naruto, Sasuke and Gai was during the period when Madara had 1 rinnegan only
Madara's limbo clones can only be damaged by senjutsu or hagoromo's chakra.
Sakura didn't cause kaguya to bleed, the blood was from the kamui raikiri wound.

Obito stated that if Madara got obtained the other rinnegan, nobody would be able to defeat him

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Of course, that was proven false by Kishimoto's usual retarded plot no jutsu, as a mere Black Zetsu was able to physically pierce Madara's body with his bare hands. However, plot no jutsu like doesn't prove that Kaguya is actually stronger than Double Rinnegan Madara. Quite the reverse actually.

Kaguya's dimension shifting is a weak technique and not very effective as offence against opponents. Naruto has hit Kaguya multiple time since Kaguya appeared, which proves Kaguya has shitty reaction time.
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This is Naruto, blitzing her for the second time. Without using a distracting technique like reverse harem no jutsu
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Not only that he hit her twice, Naruto casually dodged Kaguya's attack.
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Naruto dodges her attack, again
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From the above scans, we can assume that Kaguya is slightly stronger than single rinnegan Madara, because she took less damage from Naruto's attacks. But when Madara obtained his second rinnegan, Naruto and Sasuke were unable to harm Madara physically. Now Kaguya is being spanked by Sakura

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I personally dislike Madara after he became juubi jinchuriki and started acting like a clown. But at least he never let himself get hit by fodders. If Kaguya can't react to somebody Sakura, good luck if she wants to beat somebody like Aizen Lol

What a pity
If Naruto did something against Kaguya, he'd do it even easier against Madara.

Naruto didn't even attempt to harm double rinnegan madara, they didn't even fight.
 

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Lel, Juudara got stabbed by a sword while four tails naruto didn't even get pierced by the kusanagi blade.
Juudara has shitty durability too Lol

But srsly we haven't seen what kaguya's rabbit juubi form does.(stabilized)
 

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Madara's limbo clones can only be damaged by senjutsu or hagoromo's chakra.
Sakura didn't cause kaguya to bleed, the blood was from the kamui raikiri wound.

The point is, Kaguya got hit by Sakura while Madara didn't. Shows the different in class.

If Naruto did something against Kaguya, he'd do it even easier against Madara.

I don't remember Naruto harming double rinnegan Madara, he was busy fighting limbo clones while Madara flew towards the moon. Kaguya legitimately got blitzed by Naruto. Portrayal wise she's barely stronger than 1 rinnegan juubi madara
 

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The point is, Kaguya got hit by Sakura while Madara didn't. Shows the different in class.



I don't remember Naruto harming double rinnegan Madara, he was busy fighting limbo clones while Madara flew towards the moon. Kaguya legitimately got blitzed by Naruto. Portrayal wise she's barely stronger than 1 rinnegan juubi madara

Lel, How Sakura gonna hit real Madara if he is using invisible wall that is Limbo

Is sakura saw the limbo?
 

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The point is, Kaguya got hit by Sakura while Madara didn't. Shows the different in class.
....what the heck?

Sakura ran right at Madara and tried to punch him. Kaguya her attention split when she was being triple teamed by 3 top tiers, as well as bleeding profusely from one of her arms in order for Sakura to land a surprise attack on her.

The two situations are completely incomparable.


I don't remember Naruto harming double rinnegan Madara, he was busy fighting limbo clones while Madara flew towards the moon. Kaguya legitimately got blitzed by Naruto. Portrayal wise she's barely stronger than 1 rinnegan juubi madara
Kind of hard to harm someone if you don't even try to attack them. Naruto wasn't busy fighting limbo clones, he was busy protecting the entire alliance from Madara's meteor shower while his clones were fighting limbo clones.

Portrayal wise, Kaguya is on a whole nother level than double rinnegan madara. Naruto was severely holding back on Madara proven by the stuff that he was forced to pull out against Kaguya.
 

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Lel, How Sakura gonna hit real Madara if he is using invisible wall that is Limbo

Is sakura saw the limbo?

Exactly. Limbo is what makes the difference here. Kaguya's dimension shifting is shit and useless. Naruto dodged her chakra rod even when she sneaked on Naruto. Then she got owned by her own gravitational jutsu, while Kakashi and Obito were running

Madara sucked as juubi jin because of his personality, Kaguya looks like a genuine fodder upto now. Of course she will get stronger, but getting blitzed by Sakura ruined her character for me
 

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Exactly. Limbo is what makes the difference here. Kaguya's dimension shifting is shit and useless. Naruto dodged her chakra rod even when she sneaked on Naruto. Then she got owned by her own gravitational jutsu, while Kakashi and Obito were running

Madara sucked as juubi jin because of his personality, Kaguya looks like a genuine fodder upto now. Of course she will get stronger, but getting blitzed by Sakura ruined her character for me


I don't know what to said

The drawback here is that Kaguya doesn't having Limbo clone luxury

to defend her

But she still can open portal and escaped

But put that aside

This manga is out of believe
 
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Madara is pretty much a war veteran fighting battles since he was a kid. Kaguya does not have experience like madara so he would beat her in battle
 

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She can probably be on par with Konohamaru.

Oh wait, Sakura soloed her... so even Udon neg diffs Lol
 

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Considering even Sasuke was trashing Madara all over the place,and Kaguya made Sasuke look like an incompetent fool,yeah she is leagues above Madara.
 

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Madara literally had a plot shield vs Sakura.
Limbo was the only thing that saved him.

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Madara is better at everything....

The only thing i like about Kaguya is, that she can make a new dimension Lol
 

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Yes, that what he done without Limbo

If he just let Sakura hit him without using limbo and go out unscathed like Kaguya

Sure there are no argument here about his body strength

But he let limbo do the work

How we wanna gauge his own body strength

Think about it
Chinra Tensei ?

Adiosssss Sakura and Sasuke Lol She would fly away
 

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Apart from the BS plot no jutsu of Black Zetsu stabbing Madara, Madara's limbo clones have been proven very useful in battle.

From what we see in this chapter, Kaguya has shit durability. Got hit by Sakura and shed some blood

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Meanwhile, Sakura couldn't even scratch Double Rinnegan Madara

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Point to be noted, Madara was completely unharmed by Naruto and Sasuke when he had double rinnegan. All the thrashing Madara received from Naruto, Sasuke and Gai was during the period when Madara had 1 rinnegan only

Obito stated that if Madara got obtained the other rinnegan, nobody would be able to defeat him

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Of course, that was proven false by Kishimoto's usual retarded plot no jutsu, as a mere Black Zetsu was able to physically pierce Madara's body with his bare hands. However, plot no jutsu like doesn't prove that Kaguya is actually stronger than Double Rinnegan Madara. Quite the reverse actually.

Kaguya's dimension shifting is a weak technique and not very effective as offence against opponents. Naruto has hit Kaguya multiple time since Kaguya appeared, which proves Kaguya has shitty reaction time.
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This is Naruto, blitzing her for the second time. Without using a distracting technique like reverse harem no jutsu
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Not only that he hit her twice, Naruto casually dodged Kaguya's attack.
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Naruto dodges her attack, again
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From the above scans, we can assume that Kaguya is slightly stronger than single rinnegan Madara, because she took less damage from Naruto's attacks. But when Madara obtained his second rinnegan, Naruto and Sasuke were unable to harm Madara physically. Now Kaguya is being spanked by Sakura

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I personally dislike Madara after he became juubi jinchuriki and started acting like a clown. But at least he never let himself get hit by fodders. If Kaguya can't react to somebody Sakura, good luck if she wants to beat somebody like Aizen Lol

What a pity

I think it was because Kaguya predates jutsu, she may have a massive amount of power, but doesn't know how to use it, which is why she's been little more than a punching bag. Also, Sakura didn't actually hit Madara in that scene, and she wasn't bleeding from Sakura punch, she was bleeding from Kakashi nearly Kamui'ing her arm off.
 

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Udon neg diffs this fodder called Kaguya, simple.

Wait, even Sakura neg diffed her, so what you expect? Lol
 

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Chinra Tensei ?

Adiosssss Sakura and Sasuke Lol She would fly away

That also can be applied

If he use that technique. How we able to gauge his body strength

Just go bare body instead

And don't full me with illusion

Do the math
 

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Is someone going to make this thread every week? Manga stated who is stronger. Nothing else anyone says or believes matters. When the manga says Madara is stronger, then he'll be stronger.
 
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