NASA DISCOVERS A SHADOW ON THE MOON. (is it fake? o.O)

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Damn, they caught the alien slipping. XD
 

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Long ago, there was a Face on the Moon, which people thought was either a message from extraterrestrials or a spectacularly-carved rock due to precise puncturing from meteoroids. Both are false, and it took years to figure out that it was just a play of shadows, where an angle can create this image. Another angle pointed at this face found out it was just an ordinary rock.

This image will prove to be no different.

it was on the mars actually.. u mean this right?

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OT no it is not a life form, it is just our brains playing a prank on us.... i cant believe how easily people belive this kind of stuff... also note im not saying extraterrestial life is not possible, im just saying that its highly unlikely that we discover it this way etc.... how many times are there reports of people seeing ghosts when its just a shadow and imagination etc which make them believe....
 

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it was on the mars actually.. u mean this right?

Whoops! I posted the images yet didn't correct myself XD

Ok how so cause there is no concrete proof that aliens exist just speculation.

Speculation yes, but it's even more implausible to suggest there AREN'T aliens in the universe ;)
 

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Ok how so cause there is no concrete proof that aliens exist just speculation.

with a universe this unimaginably huge and uncountable galaxies stars and planets it is highly unlikely there arent any other living beings besides us ;) common sense
 

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But until we get that proof, let's just assume what is most reasonable to assume: it's just shadows.

Said proof was posted just a ways down from his reply :)
with a universe this unimaginably huge and uncountable galaxies stars and planets it is highly unlikely there arent any other living beings besides us common sense

Exactly! And there are many ideas as to why we are 'missed' by some.

--A galactic version of the Star Trek order where higher beings aren't to mess with us inferior beings.

-- They are growing just as we are

-- They never made it far enough without killing themselves over conflict.

-- Our world is really tiny compared to theirs and they do not see us as meaningful. Seriously, check out just how small we are compared to other celestial rocks. We and our sun are dust particles compared to some stars.
 
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Said proof was posted just a ways down from his reply :)


Exactly! And there are many ideas as to why we are 'missed' by some.

--A galactic version of the Star Trek order where higher beings aren't to mess with us inferior beings.

-- They are growing just as we are

-- They never made it far enough without killing themselves over conflict.

-- Our world is really tiny compared to theirs and they do not see us as meaningful. Seriously, check out just how small we are compared to other celestial rocks. We and our sun are dust particles compared to some stars.



not to mention if they actually are developped enough and have discovered our planet they would be observing the past, depending on how far away they are. lets say they are like 60millions light years away. if they watched at our planet they would be observing dinosaurs XD
 

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with a universe this unimaginably huge and uncountable galaxies stars and planets it is highly unlikely there arent any other living beings besides us ;) common sense

Well first off nobody even knows how life started the answer to how DNA itself came into existence is so difficult to
Answer that scientist don't even know how. And a large number of people really on scientist for everything. How life got started is even more unimaginabley difficult to answer and understand than how unimaginably big the universe is. (Or at least is say so) plus for life to even have the conditions neccesary for life you have to take into account the planets size, its distance from the sun aswell as the suns size, it orbits the distance between said planet and the other planets in its solar system and the numbers for the size and distance are very exact numbers, and this is not even the least of the things that need to be taken into account for life to form on a planet. (According to scientists)
 

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There is one thing that I remembered could constitute a 'message' from extraterrestrials, but this is so far out there, nobody has any clear consensi on what it could be from. So there was this frequency picked up by astronomers, I forget what radiation it was, probably a radio frequency. They tuned it to an exact number, and they figured out that that number can be emitted by a hydrogen atom.

So some professionals in their field think that some extraterrestrials are sending that message out every which way to find semi-advanced civilizations. Something as simple and precise as 'the radio frequency of a hydrogen atom' would be a universal common knowledge.

But again, this is completely out there and there's nothing complete or finalized about this idea.

Answer that scientist don't even know how

Yes we do, and we learn this principle in Introductory Biology classes in every credible university in this nation.

take into account the planets size, its distance from the sun aswell as the suns size, it orbits the distance between said planet and the other planets in its solar system and the numbers for the size and distance are very exact numbers, and this is not even the least of the things that need to be taken into account for life to form on a planet

This is why instead of all 8 planets in our solar system are aligned enough to support life, only two of our planets are suitable. One is obviously Terra, our planet. The other is Venus, but today, the atmosphere is so clogged with CO2 that the planet is too hot for organic survival. But it wasn't always that way. It could have been suitable for life a hundred million years ago.
 
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Well first off nobody even knows how life started the answer to how DNA itself came into existence is so difficult to
Answer that scientist don't even know how. And a large number of people really on scientist for everything. How life got started is even more unimaginabley difficult to answer and understand than how unimaginably big the universe is. (Or at least is say so) plus for life to even have the conditions neccesary for life you have to take into account the planets size, its distance from the sun aswell as the suns size, it orbits the distance between said planet and the other planets in its solar system and the numbers for the size and distance are very exact numbers, and this is not even the least of the things that need to be taken into account for life to form on a planet. (According to scientists)

there are several theorys about how first life came to be and we might be finding an asnwer sooner than we might think ;).... ever heard of abiogenesis? look it up^^ also as far as we know it might be posssible for life come to exist based on other chemicals which we dont know yet and arent around on our planet what my main point is the fact that we kinda could have an idea of how it all began, but it is impossible to even attempt to understand the hugeness of our universe with our simple minds. sure i have heard of the drake equation. but u must also consider that we are discovering planet after planet day after day... there might be far more planets out there than we used to think. also our theories around our universe keep getting upgrades day after day.... what im trying to say is that we still have a very long way to go. and as things seem chances are that its rather likely for intelligent life forms to exist rather than not, let alone non intelligent life.....
 

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Yep.
 

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also our theories around our universe keep getting upgrades day after day

Speaking of upgrades of our theories around our universe, we've known for a bit that there is ice on Europa, which is one of the moons of Jupiter. But we recently know that sometimes Europa shoots out water geysers from intense pressure. So not only does Europa have ice, but there's a point below Europa where the pressure is high enough that the ice melts and becomes water. And not only do we have an idea where the supposed life on Europa could be, we have ideas on how to get there and where to look--we send a specialized craft into a water geyser and look along the walls and floors.

However, NASA needs money. And their budgets are dangling at the bottom of the USA's budget, next to Planned Parenthood.
 

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Well first off nobody even knows how life started the answer to how DNA itself came into existence is so difficult to
Answer that scientist don't even know how. And a large number of people really on scientist for everything. How life got started is even more unimaginabley difficult to answer and understand than how unimaginably big the universe is. (Or at least is say so) plus for life to even have the conditions neccesary for life you have to take into account the planets size, its distance from the sun aswell as the suns size, it orbits the distance between said planet and the other planets in its solar system and the numbers for the size and distance are very exact numbers, and this is not even the least of the things that need to be taken into account for life to form on a planet. (According to scientists)

How life got started is quiet simple to answer: By pure chance. If not that, then by alien influence, wich would be proof that aliens exist so let's not talk about that, it would cause problems anyways (how did the aliens get started? etc, nasty logic circles). Lets put god in that category as well, even if some ppl might disagree with that, just to make things simpler.

If live got started by pure chance however, isn't it reasonable to assume that it would have happened elsewhere in our universe as well? I mean sure, you could argue that the chance for live to immerge is approximately 1 : the number of planets where live could emerge (or even lower and we just got really lucky), but even then you will find that the chance for us beeing the only planet where live actually emerged is extremely low! UNLESS the number of planets where live could possibly emergy was extremely low, wich at this point we can with near certainty say, is not the case! Planets within the goldilock zone - while beeing hard to detect with current telescopes - seem to be rather common for what we currently know. Sure, not all of these will be habitable, only a fraction of those will be and there is no way to tell for sure how big or small that fraction really is. But the fact alone that we can already find seemingly earth-like planets within an insanely tiny distance from earth compared to the size of the universe, is enough evidence for me to believe that there are a lot of earth-like, habitable planets out there.

Chances are, there is other life out there. Sure, you can be pessimistic about that and wait for your proof - chances are however, that neither me nor you will be proven right or wrong in our short lifetimes. It's even questionable wether we'll ever get proof in our earth's lifetime.
But I believe it is reasonable to say that we are not alone.
 
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How life got started is quiet simple to answer: By pure chance.

Saying life started by pure chance alone is a discredit to what Biologists know. What we know is that there is a process, and this process can occur if left to its own devices. Or we can just replicate the results, which you can do if you take the appropriate class for it, such as Organic Chemistry. The only chance that goes into the equation is the location of our planet, which, yes, was one hell of a dice roll. But this is now in the realm of Astronomy, not Biology.
 

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Saying life started by pure chance alone is a discredit to what Biologists know. What we know is that there is a process, and this process can occur if left to its own devices. Or we can just replicate the results, which you can do if you take the appropriate class for it, such as Organic Chemistry. The only chance that goes into the equation is the location of our planet, which, yes, was one hell of a dice roll. But this is now in the realm of Astronomy, not Biology.

Everything happens either by pure chance or because it was forced to happen by something that we would probably call a conciousness. Sure, it's a huge simplification to say life happened by pure chance, there are presumably a thousand different steps involved in the 'creation' (ugly word, don't know a better one) of the first cell. But ultimately, in the very essence, it's still the truth. Wether a planet is within the goldieck zone? Pure chance. Wether a planet has water? Pure chance. Wether some specific molecules meet within the ocean of a habitable planet? Pure chance.

Unless you say that a conciousness - something that is aware of it's actions - forced life to happen, ultimately it comes down to pure chance.
 

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And here some man discovered Jesus in his dog's butt ...

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And here some man discovered Jesus in his dog's butt ...

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what the heck?
 

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