[Discussion] Sanji needs to eat a devil fruit ?

[xanonymosx]

well, up till now sanji had a bad time during his fights with top tiers ,things were not going well against vergo and he got low diffed against doflamingo
the problem is sanji didnt show any sign of showing a new techniuqe during these fights especially against doflamingo
i mean doflaming was flying toward the ship , nami was there but he didnt show any new thing
so do you think sanji reached his limits ? if so do you think a df power is his next power up ?


* i didnt say zoro can beat them so please no

 

[Dagcy16]

He needs to eat the freaking Mera-Mera Fruit!

but, he don't want to....

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

He is the fastest slower in the straw hats and with all the devil fruits users on the crew he is too valuable....so no he doesn't also against doffy any straw hat would be low diff with luffy being the exception, he would mid diff

 

[MugiwaraBoy]

Absalom is still alive, and Sanji said that was the fruit he wanted, maybe he'll get that in future.

 

[xanonymosx]

He is the fastest slower in the straw hats and with all the devil fruits users on the crew he is too valuable....so no he doesn't also against doffy any straw hat would be low diff with luffy being the exception, he would mid diff

but doflaming is not thier last oponent they will have to fight an admiral sooner or later
that why i asked about his power up unless you think sanji is gonna still weak at the end of the series

 

[xanonymosx]

Absalom is still alive, and Sanji said that was the fruit he wanted, maybe he'll get that in future.

he did not want thefruit to increase his power he wanted it to inter women’s bath room without getting caught
beside absalom is alive

 

[Trashboat]

If Sanji were to eat a devil fruit, then you'll be left with Zoro only who can actually swim, so no, it would just not make any sense, and besides, Sanji wants only the Suke Suke no Mi, and Absalom already ate that fruit.

 

[U mAd]

well if sanji eats a devil fruit the rest of the crew's screwed.i mean he has a habit of saving other people ass if he can't swim that's a disadvantage.and people are underastimating sanji.sanji is pretty strong.sanji's body was heavily damaged before he fought vergo.nami used it to tank all the ceasers attacks.also sanji has won against more unwinable opponents.
-at the sea train he couldn't' even break bluno's tekkai.
-won against bon kurei with broken ribs
-do people forget vergo was bleeding from his head when he came out of the fight.
-at the sea train he couldnt' even break bluno's tekkai.
-but some time later he was breaking jaibura's tekkai easily.jaibura was atleast 2x stronger.
-zoro gets stronger by training,luffy gets stronger cause of his DF and sanji get's stronger by experience(my opinion since he never trains and didn't even train at the time-skip.he just ran.)

 

[Moonbird]

Nope.. He shouldn't have a devil fruit.

Why?

This world is build in a way so having a devil fruit is both a major advantage and a major disadvantage, and the further we move forward, the less the advantage becomes while the disadvantage is ever persistant.

What makes One Piece a bit genius is that the straw hat crew is build up around the concept that each member is deeply neccesary based on their unique skill none of the others can do.
As it happens, merely having a devil fruit is such a big flaw that going to the ocean alone as a devil fruit user would be asking for death, the devil fruit users on the sunny are all DEEPLY dependent on the none devil fruit users to pull them out of trouble when the disadvantages kicks in.
Remember, sea water not only makes them sink when they fall in... it's bloody kryptonite to devil fruit users AND as shown in Smokers fight against Vergo, against a Haki user using devil fruit powers can become a direct disadvantage in battle on land as well.

The strawhat crew NEEDS it's none devil fruit users... just think about it for a second.

When Brook, Chopper, Nami and Momo was fighting that painter lady... Nami was the ONLY one who could handcuff that woman because she was the only none devil fruit user, none of the others could even touch the handcuffs needed without becoming weak and potentially even faint upon contact.

The idea that devil fruits makes you better and invincible in the world of one piece is a miss direction... it brings as many disadvantages as advantages, and to function as a whole crew where the crew members can pick each other up when they fall short, they need a good number of none devil fruit users to even get by.

As it stands right now, considering just how many DF users there is on the ship in comparison to how many none DF users.. to have any-one eat a DF would become a serious disadvantages to them they don't need.
No matter who it is.. as I see it right now for them, the disadvantages for the group would HIGHLY outran the advantages.

Yup, even if Usopp or Nami ate a devil fruit, I would find it to be a disadvantage to the crew as a hole, they NEED their none devil fruit users.

 

[xanonymosx]

well if sanji eats a devil fruit the rest of the crew's screwed.i mean he has a habit of saving other people ass if he can't swim that's a disadvantage.and people are underastimating sanji.sanji is pretty strong.sanji's body was heavily damaged before he fought vergo.nami used it to tank all the ceasers attacks.also sanji has won against more unwinable opponents.
-at the sea train he couldn't' even break bluno's tekkai.
-won against bon kurei with broken ribs
-do people forget vergo was bleeding from his head when he came out of the fight.
-at the sea train he couldnt' even break bluno's tekkai.
-but some time later he was breaking jaibura's tekkai easily.jaibura was atleast 2x stronger.
-zoro gets stronger by training,luffy gets stronger cause of his DF and sanji get's stronger by experience(my opinion since he never trains and didn't even train at the time-skip.he just ran.)

so you are saying if he fights doflamingo again he will has a better chance because his experience increased

 

[U mAd]

so you are saying if he fights doflamingo again he will has a better chance because his experience increased

not saying he can win beat doffy right now but since he know now's of doffy's abilities.he can do better.this goes for anyone not just sanji.

 

[xanonymosx]

well you got a point but in order to use this experince you need to increase your ability
i mean if you know the weakness of some one that doesnt mean you can beat him beacause your strength isnt good enough
as you said he couldnt break bluno’s tekkai at first but after that he broke japura’s because he used diable jumpe

 

[U mAd]

well you got a point but in order to use this experince you need to increase your ability
i mean if you know the weakness of some one that doesnt mean you can beat him beacause your strength isnt good enough
as you said he couldnt break bluno’s tekkai at first but after that he broke japura’s because he used diable jumpe

err.so i am thinking he develops his abilities when he hit's a wall.like being unable to break tekkai he developed diable jamble and skywalk when he was surrounded by okama.

 

[ultraChalk]

People would forever flame him and never forget how 'he was so weak in part 2 he had to eat a DF to catch back up to M3', so no for me.

 

[xanonymosx]

People would forever flame him and never forget how 'he was so weak in part 2 he had to eat a DF to catch back up to M3', so no for me.

not at all at least imo , look at who luffy and zoro got to train with during ts zoro got the best sordsman to learn him sordsmanship and luffy got pk’s right hand man to teach him haki what did sanji got ? a group of shemals chasing him to dress him like a girl sanji has all the right to have a DF power man
as for swiming thing the crew will still has zoro,ussop,nami,franky(dont know how can he swim with all that metal :erm: but he refused mera merabecause he wanted to swim )

 

[Fireplay]

Reaced his limit? You must be joking right?

Sanji is gonna keep getting stronger and he's still far from his limit.

Sanji will never EVUR eat a DF, Oda has pretty much confirmed that. If Sanji eats a DF (which he never EVUR will) i'll eat my left testicle. He doesn't even need one.

 

[xanonymosx]

Reaced his limit? You must be joking right?

Sanji is gonna keep getting stronger and he's still far from his limit.

Sanji will never EVUR eat a DF, Oda has pretty much confirmed that. If Sanji eats a DF (which he never EVUR will) i'll eat my left testicle. He doesn't even need one.

oh sorry i didnt say it befor (no fans logic please )
i asked did he reach his limit you said no so you dont have to answer the second qution because he is far from his limit which means he does not need any df fruit
but i have to ask you if he is far from his limit how did he got low-diffed by doflamengo ?
if you say because it is doflamingo and he is out of sanjis reach that means sanji reachesd his limits and couldnt beat doflamingo
or you are saying sanji didnt go all out and let doflamingo beat him ?

 

[jiraiya lives]

but doflaming is not thier last oponent they will have to fight an admiral sooner or later
that why i asked about his power up unless you think sanji is gonna still weak at the end of the series

Training? character progression? learning from his losses and getting better? Everyone can improve drastically over a few arcs. Compare Ennies lobby Sanji with let's say skypia sanji. He became so much more powerful over just a few arcs and this is what just the 3rd arc of new world and only the second island.

How old is Sanji like 19 and he's already on the level of VA's. Sanji isn't even in his prime yet

 

[puni]

No, he needs more screen time.
You are underestimating sanji. When he fought Vergo his body was all worn out. Same with DD plus he did not have any knowledge about his fruit. And is yet to go allout.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

No, that would be stupid.