Akatsuki members aren't that strong.

jimbobbity

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But S rank does not mean Kage level. Gai is just a jounin and can solo most akatsuki except Obito/Nagato with 7th gate. If they lose to this Jounin, what level does that make them? Thats what people are doing with the Akatsuki. "Because Itachi beat Kakashi hes obviously higher than jounin thus kage level" bull crap. Makes no sense. Kankuro and Sai beat Sasori and Deidara so yeah they are obviously Kage level. :rolleyes:

You do realise that S-Rank is the highest rank of threat, right? And anyway, i wasnt using that as a defence. Fact of the matter is that these people are extremely strong. They are by no means weak.
 
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I'd say every one of them is high jonin at least bar Hidan.

Itachi should be mid kage level since he does possess MS, even if he did have low stamina.
 

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Itachi mid diffs any kage, except the hokages, third raikage and ohnoki
 

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Itachi beats old Hiruzen, the Third Raikage, and Ohnoki.
He would lose to Mū and the rest of the Hokage, but that's pretty much it.

Oh I forgot fodderuzen Lol
With third raikage it can go both ways, so can with a younger ohnoki. I'm not sure about muu
 

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Well,If its Hokage level(excluding Tsunade) its debateable but obito itachi and nagato are still in that level

If not I completely disagree
 

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Yo. You're full of shit man.

Itachi beats old Hiruzen, the Third Raikage, and Ohnoki.
He would lose to Mū and the rest of the Hokage, but that's pretty much it.

I think Itachi could potentially beat µ. He is by far the most overrated Kage.
 

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Lol wtf. What's this "high jonin", "mid jonin", etc... business?

OT: They were all S-ranked criminals and many of them were easily more dangerous and/or more skilled than many official kages.
Denying their status is denying the very manga.
 

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I never said it was. It just so happens that Nagato and Orochimaru have more jutsu then all the other Akatsuki. Not my fault they do. Blame Kishimoto. U_U

yes. the point is the number of jutsu's dont make you kage level. not to mention obito has more jutsu's then nagato
 

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I agree, they can't even beat the K11, and their mostly chuunins.
 

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Some people say everyone in Akatsuki is at least Kage level. That is wrong.

Nagato = Kage
Konan = Jonin
Hidan = Jonin
Itachi = High Jounin
Kisame = High Jonin
Kakuzu = Mid Jonin
Deidara = Mid Jonin
Sasori = High Jonin
Zetsu = Jonin (but he was a god low key)
Obito= High Jounin (when we count just his own main arsenal all he has is Kamui)
Orochimaru = Kage

So Nagato and Orochimaru are the only Kage caliber shinobi from Akatsuki. Don't think I'm bashing these characters, I'm not. Of course some of these Akatsuki can beat characters who actually hold the title of Kage with their unique and dangerously strong abilities (which is what Akatsuki recruits for in the first place) but that does not automatically put them on the level of a Kage.

Jonin is a high rank in the Narutoverse. Calling someone Jonin level is not bashing them because technically its the highest rank one can achieve on the ninja scale. Kage is something only you can get when the Jonin of the village, its people, the elders, daiymo, and sometimes the current Kage deems you worthy from trust, respect, etc. Although top tier skills is another need for Kage, you don't need to have the best in your village (ie Jiraiya and Tsunade, Bee and Ay).

So yeah, not all Akastuki are Kage level.

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The trolling is strong in this one.

Sasori took down the 3rd Kazekage, who was the strongest Kage in Suna history. I'll just say this and leave.
 

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Obito - high Kage level
Nagato - high Kage level
Itachi - high Kage level
Konan - mid Kage level
Kisame - mid Kage level
Kakuzu - low Kage level
Deidara - low Kage level
Sasori - low Kage level
Hidan - high jōnin level
Zetsu - mid jōnin level
 
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