Sasuke And Naruto's Speed

[TheUnbiasedOne]

I swear you're retarded. That's what I said, he faked his imprisonment, and you completely missed my point: "if Kaguya was able to react to Sasuke's S/T, change dimensions, and fly away all before sasuke was able to land a hit, don't you think it would be preposterious that Naruto was able to break himself out of his ice prison and nail Kaguya without her reacting if he wasn't faster?"

KAGUYA DIDN'T FLY AWAY AFTER CHANGING DIMENSIONS!? Now I know you're a troll, go re read the manga kid, I doubt you're even in college.

Yes, because a science based on something we only use 10% of is the most proven science... Before you try to look smart and successful over the Internet, brush up on your understanding of things beforehand. You just make yourself out to look like a fraud.

"And in psychology you learn a lot of math and geometry (which is math)." You still didn't refute my point that math is fake--a mere human invention; unlike physics or chemistry or biology, math can't be seen or smelled or observed. Now you're really making yourself look bad if you haven't a basic understanding of the fundamentals of our universe--to claim psychology is so concrete when you're implying it's based on something as real as morals.

You can be a high paid psychologist in about a year? Clearly you haven't even gotten a hold of the semantics of the current job market. Are you going for your masters or doctorate? Probably neither. Otherwise you wouldn't be wasting your time on here if you knew how much work you'd actually have to be doing in the field. What a fraud--an internet badass.

I will flip your burgers? You have no idea where I'm at or what I'm doing in life, and it sure as hell ain't flipping burgers.

EDIT: and yeah your trolling and idiocy has done a great job at riling me up, you want a cookie, retard?

In actuality, Physics uses math also, and I have free time to do this so I'm doing it, FYI I'm going for my masters. Psychology isn't based on morals it's based on the workings of the human brain and a manipulation of the human subconscious, possibly the most useful science in everyday life.

Anyway I don't come on NB to flaunt my life when we've both came to the same place, people on a manga forum, we obviously have too much Time on our hands.

Kaguya appear where she wants when she changes dimensions which is why in the panel after the shift, there isn't even a trail or a trace of her. Retread it

 

[The Work]

Sasuke's Speed = Technique/Jutsu

Naruto's Speed = Raw Speed.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

That's contradiction since you're doing the same thing. If I need therapy, you need Jesus.

I am going based on the fact that the world was at stake and Naruto said he wouldn't hold back against Obito. Why would he be going half speed? If we do that the equal out in speed there and their latest speed feats have been identical.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Think like this, and here I'm even going to make Naruto ions faster.

If I move at the speed of sound and you move at double that speed and we are fighting, unless we are miles away, your speed relative to mine in this situation is only slightly higher considering the scale.

Now Naruto isn't 2x as fast as Sasuke. Sasuke isn't 2x as fast as Naruto. The point of this thread is that though they have slight edges in certain areas, neither is much faster and their relative speed is nearly equal

 

[xxSAGExx]

And you're saying Sasuke's speed hasn't changed since them? Somehow, he got much faster. Also, Sasuke had not problem matching Ay's reflexes out of his susanoo. Sasuke is MUCH faster than KM Naruto

Yes I'm implying that since Sasuke never had training or power up that increase his speed, you can say he used Senjutsus to increase his speed but at that point Naruto's speed would be further increased with Senjutsu+Bijuu chakra and Sasuke speed was only said to be fast but was never compared to a instant FTG which is held by the fastest ninjas. Sasuke cannot keep up with A's version 1 speed as Shi commented that the Sharingan can't read it

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then when Sasuke went MS, A went version 2 armor to counter it and Karin comments that even though Sasuke can't keep up to A's speed he is protected

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and Karin said that here

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As Lee said in part 1, it doesn't matter if you can see his movements, if your body doesn't have the speed to react then seeing it is useless

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. Sasuke speed alone couldn't match or handle A's speed, he needed to rely on his Sharingan which couldn't even read A's movement unless he moved in a linear movement. Sasuke doesn't the same thing with 3 tails Bee, he only could read Bee's movement when it was linear but after Bee started to move around he asked Karin to keep track of Bee's movements and inform them

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[V h o]

Think like this, and here I'm even going to make Naruto ions faster.

If I move at the speed of sound and you move at double that speed and we are fighting, unless we are miles away, your speed relative to mine in this situation is only slightly higher considering the scale.

Now Naruto isn't 2x as fast as Sasuke. Sasuke isn't 2x as fast as Naruto. The point of this thread is that though they have slight edges in certain areas, neither is much faster and their relative speed is nearly equal

If Sasuke (current) is as fast as Naruto why not just use this speed instead of using a technique that has a cooldown? Less chakra used also.

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Still no response from earlier either. I expect more effort out of your trolling. :|

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

If Sasuke (current) is as fast as Naruto why not just use this speed instead of using a technique that has a cooldown? Less chakra used also.

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Still no response from earlier either. I expect more effort out of your trolling. :|

Trolling is deliberately saying wrong things in a cry for attention and giving stupid responses each time. He had a valid reason to use it I leach time

Vs Madara

Wanted to see how his powers worked

Running to the portal

Needed to make sure he got there in a split second and was exhausted from the extreme heat and running in sand.

Vs Kaguya

Couldn't move under gravity

Every other time he used pure speed and matched Naruto's

Chakra also isn't much of an object amymore

Respond to my physical analysis to continue this arguement

 

[Jimihendrix]

In actuality, Physics uses math also, and I have free time to do this so I'm doing it, FYI I'm going for my masters. Psychology isn't based on morals it's based on the workings of the human brain and a manipulation of the human subconscious, possibly the most useful science in everyday life.

Anyway I don't come on NB to flaunt my life when we've both came to the same place, people on a manga forum, we obviously have too much Time on our hands.

Kaguya appear where she wants when she changes dimensions which is why in the panel after the shift, there isn't even a trail or a trace of her. Retread it

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[TheUnbiasedOne]

Yes I'm implying that since Sasuke never had training or power up that increase his speed, you can say he used Senjutsus to increase his speed but at that point Naruto's speed would be further increased with Senjutsu+Bijuu chakra and Sasuke speed was only said to be fast but was never compared to a instant FTG which is held by the fastest ninjas. Sasuke cannot keep up with A's version 1 speed as Shi commented that the Sharingan can't read it

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then when Sasuke went MS, A went version 2 armor to counter it and Karin comments that even though Sasuke can't keep up to A's speed he is protected

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and Karin said that here

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As Lee said in part 1, it doesn't matter if you can see his movements, if your body doesn't have the speed to react then seeing it is useless

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. Sasuke speed alone couldn't match or handle A's speed, he needed to rely on his Sharingan which couldn't even read A's movement unless he moved in a linear movement. Sasuke doesn't the same thing with 3 tails Bee, he only could read Bee's movement when it was linear but after Bee started to move around he asked Karin to keep track of Bee's movements and inform them

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Yeah no, Sasuke somehow got much faster. He isn't the same speed he was when he fought Ay or Bee. He is much faster now so couldn't and didn't don't suffice. That's like saying Sm couldn't keep up with blind Sasuke alone so Sasuke is faster

 

[V h o]

Trolling is deliberately saying wrong things in a cry for attention and giving stupid responses each time. He had a valid reason to use it I leach time

Vs Madara

Wanted to see how his powers worked

Running to the portal

Needed to make sure he got there in a split second and was exhausted from the extreme heat and running in sand.

Vs Kaguya

Couldn't move under gravity

Every other time he used pure speed and matched Naruto's

Chakra also isn't much of an object amymore

Respond to my physical analysis to continue this arguement

So now Sasuke plays around like Madara? Sasuke wanted to test out his powers, but bisected Madara without any alarm. Sasuke was exhausted but sprinted to aid Naruto? He couldn't move during gravity but dodged the ash bone? He couldn't move in gravity but was still able to form chidori. So Sasuke matched Naruto's speed of taking off Kagaya's arm?

Yes and no answer for the above questions.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

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Some people don't understand you can't /thread yourself and expect it to be valid. I had always seen that as the trail to sasuke's chidori. If it isn't, I can accept being wrong there, however the fact stands that Sasuke replicated Naruto's feat of catching Kaguya

 

[xxSAGExx]

Yeah no, Sasuke somehow got much faster. He isn't the same speed he was when he fought Ay or Bee. He is much faster now so couldn't and didn't don't suffice. That's like saying Sm couldn't keep up with blind Sasuke alone so Sasuke is faster

No he didn't, people don't just get faster for reason. They either train or get a powerup and the only thing Sasuke has that can power up his speed is Senjutsu. By that logic Kakashi speed match Sasuke speed now with no training because he got Obito's chakra and Sharingans. SM couldn't keep up with blind Sasuke? Naruto was never in SM when Sasuke was going blind and Naruto's base had speed that was faster than Sasuke attempting to stab Sakura. SM actually increases the speed and give you the ability to be a sensor, Sasuke doesn't have that type of power up unless he use Senjutsu to increase his speed.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

So now Sasuke plays around like Madara? No. He needed to see what he could do

Sasuke wanted to test out his powers, but bisected Madara without any alarm. Yes. That was body flicker.

Sasuke was exhausted but sprinted to aid Naruto? Yea. He was sprinting to get out of the desert

He couldn't move during gravity but dodged the ash bone? He dropped his body, which is subsequently why he couldn't dodge the next one

He couldn't move in gravity but was still able to form chidori. Sasuke no longer uses hand seals for chidori (hand seals went out the window after the Kabuto fight)

So Sasuke matched Naruto's speed of taking off Kagaya's arm? Yes and No. Sasuke reached Kaguya in one panel from the same distance Naruto did. What he did not accomplish is causing damage to Kaguya, since he chose to play decoy

Yes and no answer for the above questions.

Hope that provides clarity bro

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

No he didn't, people don't just get faster for reason. They either train or get a powerup and the only thing Sasuke has that can power up his speed is Senjutsu. By that logic Kakashi speed match Sasuke speed now with no training because he got Obito's chakra and Sharingans. SM couldn't keep up with blind Sasuke? Naruto was never in SM when Sasuke was going blind and Naruto's base had speed that was faster than Sasuke attempting to stab Sakura. SM actually increases the speed and give you the ability to be a sensor, Sasuke doesn't have that type of power up unless he use Senjutsu to increase his speed.

Kishimoto isn't always consistent, but EMS Sasuke >>> MS Sasuke in speed, Juat like for some reason Itachi runs as fast as KCM Naruto but Hebi Sasuke had speed on par with him. The new Sasuke is even faster.

Madara explained himself that it was because out Sasuke's straight tomoe

 

[V h o]

Hope that provides clarity bro

So shouldn't the gravity had sped up his movement when above Kagaya? Gravity pushes downward, he already was above her so his speed should've increased? Right?

 

[xxSAGExx]

Kishimoto isn't always consistent, but EMS Sasuke >>> MS Sasuke in speed, Juat like for some reason Itachi runs as fast as KCM Naruto but Hebi Sasuke had speed on par with him. The new Sasuke is even faster.

Madara explained himself that it was because out Sasuke's straight tomoe

Itachi was as fast as KM Naruto who had 1/13th the power, he split his chakra evenly with his 12 clones prior to meeting Nagato and Itachi

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. Hebi Sasuke had Orochimaru in him which did power him up some as we seen in his past fights and Sasuke mentioning the white snake powers plus Sasuke was not on par with Itachi speed, he was close to Itachi speed but was a bit slower. Madara was taking about the Sharingan power, that has nothing to do with speed; he compares Sasuke's eyes to his.

EMS is an eye power up, it doesn't effect the body in a way that boost up your physical stats.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

So shouldn't the gravity had sped up his movement when above Kagaya? Gravity pushes downward, he already was above her so his speed should've increased? Right?

Only on a completely downward scope. He diagonally forced the attack to hit Kaguya. The slight disadvantage was hurtful when it came to fighting someone with a byakugan

 

[V h o]

Only on a completely downward scope. He diagonally forced the attack to hit Kaguya. The slight disadvantage was hurtful when it came to fighting someone with a byakugan

So force of gravity was not helping him collide with the ground then?

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Itachi was as fast as KM Naruto who had 1/13th the power, he split his chakra evenly with his 12 clones prior to meeting Nagato and Itachi

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. Hebi Sasuke had Orochimaru in him which did power him up some as we seen in his past fights and Sasuke mentioning the white snake powers plus Sasuke was not on par with Itachi speed, he was close to Itachi speed but was a bit slower. Madara was taking about the Sharingan power, that has nothing to do with speed; he compares Sasuke's eyes to his.

EMS is an eye power up, it doesn't effect the body in a way that boost up your physical stats.

Naruto clones don't equal Naruto or they wouldn't be so easy to neg diff, like Kaguya did.

Straight Tomoe gives you the ability to move fluidly and quickly. Somehow it affect the body

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

So force of gravity was not helping him collide with the ground then?

Not when he was moving diagonally no