Sasuke And Naruto's Speed

[Retsu]

Compared to the current scale, AY isn't very fast.

My point still stands though, Sasuke has not shown anything suggesting his shunshin is better than Naruto considering pre rikudo Naruto already had two speed feats under his belt comparing him to his father, who was recognized as the fastest ninja alive. His speed was already great enough to dodge ay with kcm when Sasuke couldn't even keep his eyes on him. Naturally they both have gotten stronger and faster but I fail to see how you come to the conclusion that Sasuke is in anyway faster than Naruto when he's consistently dealt with ppl who get the better of Sasuke using superior speed.

 

[Romy9]

Your links aren't showing anything.
If it was the chidori, try going to ten times earth gravity and hitting someone, Saiyan Saga Goku struggled with it.

If it was the susanoo, he clearly hit her

Read 687 again. He used his S/T and swung his hand at her just like Naruto did. He missed. Naruto did in the same fashion at similar distance. He hit her. I don't know why you keep bringing Susanoo and Chidori into this.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Naruto's KM speed is compared to Minato's FTG, all you see is a flash when Naruto uses his full speed just like when Minato use FTG. Naruto lack control over it

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. Naruto's KM= Version 1 9 tails mode so it's understandable that his speed would be that strong. Sasuke couldn't keep with with A's speed unless A was moving in a linear movement while KM Naruto can keep up with A as Tsunade showed surprise

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. While running, Naruto was able to follow A's fastest speed and dodged A with speed comparable to FTG again

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Naruto doesn't use his speed much since we don't see it again until he goes BM for the first time and BM gives Naruto even more chakra than before so his speed would be faster as well

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. Naruto have faster foot speed, reflexes/reaction, combat speed (slashed Kaguya's hand without anyone noticing) and his speed is compared to S/T jutsus. Naruto's speed comes from the strongest of the 9 Bijuus when it's only half it's power.

And you're saying Sasuke's speed hasn't changed since them? Somehow, he got much faster. Also, Sasuke had not problem matching Ay's reflexes out of his susanoo. Sasuke is MUCH faster than KM Naruto

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

My point still stands though, Sasuke has not shown anything suggesting his shunshin is better than Naruto considering pre rikudo Naruto already had two speed feats under his belt comparing him to his father, who was recognized as the fastest ninja alive. His speed was already great enough to dodge ay with kcm when Sasuke couldn't even keep his eyes on him. Naturally they both have gotten stronger and faster but I fail to see how you come to the conclusion that Sasuke is in anyway faster than Naruto when he's consistently dealt with ppl who get the better of Sasuke using superior speed.

And Sasuke matched that same Narutos speed pre rikudou power up. Who has he constantly dealt with that gets the better of Sasuke. Name 3 people

 

[V h o]

And Sasuke matched that same Narutos speed pre rikudou power up. Who has he constantly dealt with that gets the better of Sasuke. Name 3 people

And here is my favorite assumption, that Naruto was using full speed.

 

[Jimihendrix]

A few pages previous, Sasuke hits Kaguya with his susanoo arm, but she bounces off it like a shuriken hitting another one in midair

no. Sasuke's position is not one of offense, but rather defense. Don't twist the manga to fit your whines

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

no. Sasuke's position is not one of offense, but rather defense. Don't twist the manga to fit your whines

You still haven't responded to my other post.. His posturing is defense currently but he was playing the decoy so he had a short altercation with her

 

[Jimihendrix]

You still haven't responded to my response or the relative speed analysis. Face it. You can't beat a psychology major at this, I'm right you are incorrect.

haha psychology? The most baseless of all sciences? Even more of a myth than the theory of math itself? I look down on you and all psychology majors everywhere. Go eat some shrooms if you wish to learn about your mind, guy.

Why is it that Naruto was able to land not one, but three clean hits on Kaguya granted his first was pure distraction. But even the second, if Kaguya was able to react to Sasuke's S/T, change dimensions, and fly away all before sasuke was able to land a hit, don't you think it would be preposterious that Naruto was able to break himself out of his ice prison and nail Kaguya without her reacting if he wasn't faster? The third hit renders all your points null and void.

So again, drop the psychology major cause it clearly ain't doing anything beneficial for ya

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

And here is my favorite assumption, that Naruto was using full speed.

The world is at stake, ask Naruto uses half speed, hmm...
Sound like you're either lying or calling Naruto retarded

 

[Dragon Master]

Naruto is faster than Sasuke (without S/T jutsu)

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[Romy9]

The world is at stake, ask Naruto uses half speed, hmm...
Sound like you're either lying or calling Naruto retarded

The problem with that is that Naruto didn't know how fast he was. He pulled that incredible speed against Raikage. If he doesn't exactly know how fast he is, there's no evidence that it was his fastest speed.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

haha psychology? The most baseless of all sciences? Even more of a myth than the theory of math itself? I look down on you and all psychology majors everywhere. Go eat some shrooms if you wish to learn about your mind, guy.

Why is it that Naruto was able to land not one, but three clean hits on Kaguya granted his first was pure distraction. But even the second, if Kaguya was able to react to Sasuke's S/T, change dimensions, and fly away all before sasuke was able to land a hit, don't you think it would be preposterious that Naruto was able to break himself out of his ice prison and nail Kaguya without her reacting if he wasn't faster? The third hit renders all your points null and void.

So again, drop the psychology major cause it clearly ain't doing anything beneficial for ya

Naruto set up a fake way of looking imprisoned. Sasuke broke the actual ice prison. Kaguya didn't fly away, when she shifts dimensions she can put herself anywhere in that dimension instantly.

Psychology is the most proven science, and in psychology you learn a lot of math and geometry. I can be a high paid psychologist in a year. You will flip my burgers

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Naruto is faster than Sasuke (without S/T jutsu)

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What implies Sasuke wasn't capable of that. As soon as he flashed his susanoo, he went up to that same point

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

The problem with that is that Naruto didn't know how fast he was. He pulled that incredible speed against Raikage. If he doesn't exactly know how fast he is, there's no evidence that it was his fastest speed.

This is sig worthy. If Naruto doesn't know how fast he is how the hell do you know. It's assuption. Sasuke could dodge Ay easily now.

 

[V h o]

The world is at stake, ask Naruto uses half speed, hmm...
Sound like you're either lying or calling Naruto retarded

It has already been stated by Naruto himself that he is stupid. Also Naruto has been varying in speed since he fought Ay. Unless you believe Naruto was running at the same speed during that fight that deflected 7 ish TBBs.

 

[Romy9]

This is sig worthy. If Naruto doesn't know how fast he is how the hell do you know. It's assuption. Sasuke could dodge Ay easily now.

Who said I know? I don't need need to know. All I know is that he dodged him. What's to say that he had more potential? You know, sort of like he showed now when he cut her arm off.

 

[TheUnbiasedOne]

Who said I know? I don't need need to know. All I know is that he dodged him. What's to say that he had more potential? You know, sort of like he showed now when he cut her arm off.

He was no further than Sasuke was when Sasuke ran to play decoy. The big part of that feat wasn't the speed it was the damage and this thread is about speed, which they are roughly equal in.

If you don't know you can't speak on it. You're in need of therapy

 

[Romy9]

He was no further than Sasuke was when Sasuke ran to play decoy. The big part of that feat wasn't the speed it was the damage and this thread is about speed, which they are roughly equal in

No, it's not. If he executed the speed that was enough to catch her, of course that the damage will be dealt. You keep bringing strength in this illogically. Sasuke missed her, Naruto didn't. That's not exact science.

 

[Jimihendrix]

Naruto set up a fake way of looking imprisoned. Sasuke broke the actual ice prison. Kaguya didn't fly away, when she shifts dimensions she can put herself anywhere in that dimension instantly.

Psychology is the most proven science, and in psychology you learn a lot of math and geometry. I can be a high paid psychologist in a year. You will flip my burgers

I swear you're retarded. That's what I said, he faked his imprisonment, and you completely missed my point: "if Kaguya was able to react to Sasuke's S/T, change dimensions, and fly away all before sasuke was able to land a hit, don't you think it would be preposterious that Naruto was able to break himself out of his ice prison and nail Kaguya without her reacting if he wasn't faster?"

KAGUYA DIDN'T FLY AWAY AFTER CHANGING DIMENSIONS!? Now I know you're a troll, go re read the manga kid, I doubt you're even in college.

Yes, because a science based on something we only use 10% of is the most proven science... Before you try to look smart and successful over the Internet, brush up on your understanding of things beforehand. You just make yourself out to look like a fraud.

"And in psychology you learn a lot of math and geometry (which is math)." You still didn't refute my point that math is fake--a mere human invention; unlike physics or chemistry or biology, math can't be seen or smelled or observed. Now you're really making yourself look bad if you haven't a basic understanding of the fundamentals of our universe--to claim psychology is so concrete when you're implying it's based on something as real as morals.

You can be a high paid psychologist in about a year? Clearly you haven't even gotten a hold of the semantics of the current job market. Are you going for your masters or doctorate? Probably neither. Otherwise you wouldn't be wasting your time on here if you knew how much work you'd actually have to be doing in the field. What a fraud--an internet badass.

I will flip your burgers? You have no idea where I'm at or what I'm doing in life, and it sure as hell ain't flipping burgers.

EDIT: and yeah your trolling and idiocy has done a great job at riling me up, you want a cookie, retard?

 

[Romy9]

If you don't know you can't speak on it. You're in need of therapy

That's contradiction since you're doing the same thing. If I need therapy, you need Jesus.