If they had only listened to Tobirama...

[Rohan]

Tobirama likely didn't foresee Madara coming back from the dead.

But if there were no Guards; then any enemy can infiltrate Madara's grave. Looks at Black Zetsu.

 

[V h o]

If there's anyone not to underestimate, it's Madara. Tobirama should of known this.

Plus, a pre-programmed Izanagi can't activate if the body and eyes are already destroyed, right? All the times Danzo was "killed" he at least had a few seconds or so to activate it.

I bet if Tobirama had just taken the eyes out, it would of avoided him being resurrected.

The sad thing is, Madara knew the seals to reverse/resist edo tensei yet Tobirama didn't..... Not sure why Kishi did that. Tobirama's smartness shouldn't be overestimated..

 

[ethris]

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See the whole uchiha thing really wasn't tobirama's fault. In fact, we already know the uchiha didn't have a problem with Tobirama at all.. since there are no indications they did. And furthermore, the reason the village turned crap after Tobirama is because they 2 leaders who took control of the village didn't listen to the white haired beast.

"I will be the decoy… you are the bright young flames who must protect the village. Danzō, you and Saru have always been rivals in everything… But what we need now is unity. Don't bring your personal squabbles into this. It's true I was slow with my decision. First you must look within and know yourself without losing your calm. Right now you will just bring danger upon your friends. At any rate… Danzō… Saru… there's no need to be hasty at your age. One day the time will come. Just stay alive… until then."


1. Uchiha did the coup why? Because there was no unity ( you can watch the anime episode where they hold the uchiha meeting. )
2. Why were their dirty activities, like experimenting on konoha citizens, or something like the Root going on? Because there was no unity..
3. Why did Konoha look like a hypocrite? because there was no unity.


I mean if you look at the reign of the first 2 Hokage.. there really weren't any internal problems except Madara. People say Tobirama made the Uchiha into the police to segregate them so they won't mess with the village.. However, when we look at the Uchiha (anime here), all they talked about during the Coup meetings was PROTECTING KONOHA. lol. Its just that Uchiha would give their life for the village.. hence why making them the Police wasn't really a big mistake. Its just Hiruzen couldn't handle it.. and Danzo set them up for god knows why.

Sooo yeaaa Only if they had listened to Tobirama.

if your saying its danzos fault, and partly hiruzens for not stopping it, than i agree with you kinda

 

[sudota]

I'm well aware of that. However if the Uchiha and the leaf were on such good terms prior to this, then this one incident shouldn't spark such distrust as to ostracize the clan.

they never really trusted each other that well. also the reasons orochimaru mentioned to tobirama should be considered.

 

[Jon Snow.]

Yeah,if only...

 

[Rohan]

The sad thing is, Madara knew the seals to reverse/resist edo tensei yet Tobirama didn't..... Not sure why Kishi did that. Tobirama's smartness shouldn't be overestimated..

Because Madara might have had more knowledge than Tobirama. Perhaps, he did some research on Edo Tensei ?

 

[Gatsuuga]

Also didn't the viz scan say that zetsu hid madaras body? I'm pretty sure even the *********** one didn't actually mention tobirama at all.

 

[To Whatever]

The sad thing is, Madara knew the seals to reverse/resist edo tensei yet Tobirama didn't..... Not sure why Kishi did that. Tobirama's smartness shouldn't be overestimated..

That too, in the past, Konoha had so many holes in it's security that anyone could get any intel they wanted and could enter within their borders. Madara must of been really spying on Tobirama to get Edo Tensei.

It seems like the time Konoha was the most alert was after Tsunade became Hokage.

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Ps. So Rinnegan users can sense seals?

 

[Anorien16]

Also considering that Madara's body was a Treasure trove and his abilities could easily be used by Konoha's enemies. The logical thing to do would have been to destroy his body similar to what the Mist Village does with it's missing ninjas. So, why didn't Tobirama do so ?

Maybe out of respect? Cos he seemed have a extravagant burial for a enemy of his village.

 

[V h o]

Because Madara might have had more knowledge than Tobirama. Perhaps, he did some research on Edo Tensei ?

Possibly, but the creator should definitely know at least the seals to resist/reverse the jutsu.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

So this is where everyone's hanging out.

 

[KingHashirama]

He went out of his way to study his dead body. It never occurred to him that it's a possibility? Hell, even if he put guards outside the grave-site or something. He'd at least be prepared to combat Madara once more if he is revived or if someone tries to steal the body.

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yes to study his body, to unlock the secrets of the sharingan.

But how is he supposed to know everything? is he god? are you saying Tobirama has the power to read people's mind? what people have set up?

He was thought dead by everyone, not just tobirama.

 

[Rohan]

Maybe out of respect? Cos he seemed have a extravagant burial for a enemy of his village.

Considering Madara could fight against Hashirama equally and his Fame; it seems unbelievable that Tobirama will not destroy Madara's body and as such leave a huge weapon in the hands of the enemies of Konoha.

 

[To Whatever]

yes to study his body, to unlock the secrets of the sharingan.

But how is he supposed to know everything? is he god? are you saying Tobirama has the power to read people's mind? what people have set up?

He was thought dead by everyone, not just tobirama.

I'm not saying that. But the least he could do was cremate the body.

It's kind of like how Osama bin Laden's body is buried deep in the ocean somewhere.

 

[V h o]

That too, in the past, Konoha had so many holes in it's security that anyone could get any intel they wanted and could enter within their borders. Madara must of been really spying on Tobirama to get Edo Tensei.

It seems like the time Konoha was the most alert was after Tsunade became Hokage.

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Ps. So Rinnegan users can sense seals?

Yeah by Tsunade's era most likely other clans were already in the village which probably lead to the barrier's creation. Although during Hashirama and Tobirama's era the clans were already moving to the village.

 

[Nagi]

I don't remember the ucihiha name. But one of them didn't like what tobirama was doing when he created the uchiha police force. He saw what it really was. He tried to speak out about it and Tobirama killed him! Bottom line, this was bound to happen since citizen never really like law enforcer in any history. Think of a uchiha clan with over 10 people with MS and they let the power go to their head. People would fear them for sure.

All of this could've easily been prevented by letting the ucihiha clan involve in all of the government and international affair. The worst thing that could've happen would be the fire nation becoming a tyrant and force all other nations to obey the fire nation. In a way, that is what Danzo want, but he want to have the power for himself.

And it plot-no-jutsu! Can't have a lot of ucihiha(s) running around. same logic in Dragonball Z, can't have a lot of sayian(s) running around. Everybody else will end up being like krillin and yamcha!

 

[KingHashirama]

I'm not saying that. But the least he could do was cremate the body.

It's kind of like how Osama bin Laden's body is buried deep in the ocean somewhere.

lol he was studying it.... i'm sure we aren't studying Osama's body.

I don't remember the ucihiha name. But one of them didn't like what tobirama was doing when he created the uchiha police force. He saw what it really was. He tried to speak out about it and Tobirama killed him! Bottom line, this was bound to happen since citizen never really like law enforcer in any history. Think of a uchiha clan with over 10 people with MS and they let the power go to their head. People would fear them for sure.

All of this could've easily been prevented by letting the ucihiha clan involve in all of the government and international affair. The worst thing that could've happen would be the fire nation becoming a tyrant and force all other nations to obey the fire nation. In a way, that is what Danzo want, but he want to have the power for himself.

And it plot-no-jutsu! Can't have a lot of ucihiha(s) running around. same logic in Dragonball Z, can't have a lot of sayian(s) running around. Everybody else will end up being like krillin and yamcha!

Where is the soruce of your claim?

 

[Rohan]

Possibly, but the creator should definitely know at least the seals to resist/reverse the jutsu.

Tobirama even didn't know that Edos were immune to Infinite Tskyumoni. Lol

 

[SasukeSaviourofUchiha]

I don't remember the ucihiha name. But one of them didn't like what tobirama was doing when he created the uchiha police force. He saw what it really was. He tried to speak out about it and Tobirama killed him! Bottom line, this was bound to happen since citizen never really like law enforcer in any history. Think of a uchiha clan with over 10 people with MS and they let the power go to their head. People would fear them for sure.

All of this could've easily been prevented by letting the ucihiha clan involve in all of the government and international affair. The worst thing that could've happen would be the fire nation becoming a tyrant and force all other nations to obey the fire nation. In a way, that is what Danzo want, but he want to have the power for himself.

And it plot-no-jutsu! Can't have a lot of ucihiha(s) running around. same logic in Dragonball Z, can't have a lot of sayian(s) running around. Everybody else will end up being like krillin and yamcha!

What manga are you reading???

 

[Nagi]

lol he was studying it.... i'm sure we aren't studying Osama's body.



Where is the soruce of your claim?

That one uchiha? obitio told sasuke about it after Itachi death. Name is Setsuna Uchiha

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