Kishimoto's Writing...

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Naruto is still not a genius. And nobody told him as a kid he was gonna be awsome.
 

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Don't blame Kishimoto for your piss poor comprehension skills. These POS whinings have been debunked and shit on 100's of times whether you like it or not. You don't have to enjoy it but don't preach misinformation and expect to be taken seriously.
 

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What is Destiny in the first place?

Answer this question and then we'll talk.
 

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context and reading comprehension skills.

Neji was saying to naruto that it was impossible that he could become hokage,that talent is decided at birth,you can't succeed through hard work alone,naruto was born a failure,and a failure cannot beat a genuis.

All naruto said was to stop automatically deciding things,you can change your fate ( that was in response to neji repeteadly insulting him and talking as if he was right about everything),and he would win.naruto's piont to neji was that you can change things,a "loser" can beat a genuis,a "failure" won't always be a "failure".

Naruto used himself as an example by mentioning how he failed the academy 3 times on the same technique which was his weakness - the clone jutsu and and then he passed and now his signature technique is the shadow clone technique.

He proved neji wrong then neji learned from that and changed.

Do not bash masashi because of your shitty reading comprehension skills.

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After Seeing this thread,Kishi commited suicide...New Naruto's Writer will be Drake's Pet Turtle XD
 

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After all the talk in Part 1 about making your own destiny and not letting yourself be controlled by fate, it turns out that Naruto himself is someone automatically “destined for greatness”. What a crock of shit to introduce at this point in the series after driving home the importance of deciding your own fate.
Remember when Naruto fought Neji? But yet Jiraiya said Naruto was the Child of Prophecy?

Now onto Part 2 with the Asura and Indra garbage. You could say Naruto himself is controlled by fate.

Can't tell if Naruto is about creating your own fate or being apart of fate.

Kishi likes to contradict. :)

he's the main character, im not sure what you were expecting
 

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After all the talk in Part 1 about making your own destiny and not letting yourself be controlled by fate, it turns out that Naruto himself is someone automatically “destined for greatness”. What a crock of shit to introduce at this point in the series after driving home the importance of deciding your own fate.
Remember when Naruto fought Neji? But yet Jiraiya said Naruto was the Child of Prophecy?

Now onto Part 2 with the Asura and Indra garbage. You could say Naruto himself is controlled by fate.

Can't tell if Naruto is about creating your own fate or being apart of fate.

Kishi likes to contradict. :)

Not really.. Fate/ karma we have from previous incarnations is there and then it depends on your hard work and attitude and as well as aptitude.

There were many who could be destined to achieved what Naruto gained- Hishirama, Minato, Nagato , Probably Itachi , Sasuke, Obito too but they either ran out of time or missed something or both. Naruto has worked very hard for everything - even to be able to use the power he inherited in one way or another.

Having a potential for something is one thing; being able to achieve the target needed, many more conditions need to be fulfilled. Those conditions may or may not be in your hand but achieving your own potential fully is still important and you can pride yourself for that. That's what Gai did.
 
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Not really.. Fate/ karma we have from previous incarnations is there and then it depends on your hard work and attitude.

There were many who could be destined to achieved what Naruto have got- Hishirama, Minato, Nagato , Probably Itachi , Sasuke, Obito but they either ran our of time or missed something. Naruto has worked very hard for everything - even to be able to use the power he inherited in one way or another.

I look at it this way:Destiny is something people make for themselves,Naruto may have been destined to save the world but he still had to work his butt off to reach that point.
 

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I look at it this way:Destiny is something people make for themselves,Naruto may have been destined to save the world but he still had to work his butt off to reach that point.

Thing is we can call it his destiny only if he succeeds. Now as an audience we know it is going to be him because the manga is named Naruto and writer is telling us this story from only his POV. But for the characters in the story there were others too who could achieve this. How many times Indra and Asura transmigrated trying to find the right pair itself which would even act as to resolve the conflict and give them peace even in afterlife?
 

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Thank you. Finally someone who understands.
 

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Thing is we can call it his destiny only if he succeeds. Now as an audience we know it is going to be him because the manga is named Naruto and writer is telling us this story from only his POV. But for the characters in the story there were others too who could achieve this. How many times Indra and Asura transmigrated trying to find the right pair itself which would even act as to resolve the conflict and give them peace even in afterlife?

That's a good question,if we look at what transpired between Hashirama and Madara for example then it would seem that past transmigrates were always in conflict before Naruto and Sasuke.They finally broke the cycle of conflict and worked together which is why Hagoromo trusted them to lead the world to a future of peace together.
 

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Lmao, but it's the truth, I fail to understand how people can still call this ''good writing stills'', and ''nice plot progression''. This whole arc was 1 big fail, the majority of NB could write a better arc NB FFS.

Truth is most cannot even write a proper review let alone FF. Forget review a lot of the people cannot even write a decently interesting post whether positive or negative and just keep repeating their same old complaints. They just join a fan group where whatever they post , others from the group mindlessly thank and rep and bump the thread with basically pointless posts. If one of them can formulate a decent few para - he becomes a god without question. It doesn't matter to his personal fans if he is twisting facts or taking too much liberty with his interpretation. Patting each others back because it helps them to hype their personal favorite or to insult or bury other opinions among heap of sheepish posts.

So I don't see what makes you think they have skills to write an actual original story. Writing FFN is much easier but even they are often not good enough to draw audience. How many of the FFN writer at NB do you know? Or you just believe in hyperbole a little too much?
 
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Truth is most cannot even write a proper review let alone FF. Forget review a lot of the people cannot even write a decently interesting post whether positive or negative and just keep repeating their same old complaints. They just join a fan group where whatever they post , others from the group mindlessly thank and rep and bump the thread with basically pointless posts. If one of them can formulate a decent few para - he becomes a god without question. It doesn't matter to his personal fans if he is twisting facts or taking too much liberty with his interpretation. Patting each others back because it helps them to hype their personal favorite or to insult or bury other opinions among heap of sheepish post.

So I don't see what makes you think they have skills to write an actual original story. Writing FFN is much easier but even they are often not good enough to draw audience. How many of the FFN writer at NB do you know? Or you just believe in hyperbole a little too much?

I don't even know why people even think they can write a better plot than someone who has been at it for years,I'm a amateur writer and even I would be stumped if given the task of writing Kishi's story.
 

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All Naruto said was to stop automatically deciding things,you can change your fate ( that was in response to neji repeteadly insulting him and talking as if he was right about everything),and he would win.Naruto's piont to Neji was that you can change things,a "loser" can beat a genuis,a "failure" won't always be a "failure".

Well said, as Shakespeare put it "It is not in the stars to hold our destiny but in ourselves"
 

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I don't even know why people even think they can write a better plot than someone who has been at it for years,I'm a amateur writer and even I would be stumped if given the task of writing Kishi's story.

If half the people wrote the manga here. I guarantee you it would be boring. You would see no power ups. Just same old same old slow fighting.
 

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If half the people wrote the manga here. I guarantee you it would be boring. You would see no power ups. Just same old same old slow fighting.

Or only their faves get all the power ups and focus while everyone else is ignored.
 

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If half the people wrote the manga here. I guarantee you it would be boring. You would see no power ups. Just same old same old slow fighting.

lol

Years back when I first actively discovered anime FF world it were Beyblade fictions. Some were damn good but few writers kept it the characters, in character. Most were OOC and AU. And most common were self inserts replacing the original characters even if they still called them Kai and Tyson etc. Kai fans were mad because Tyson had yet again won the championship and the final saw them engaged in a friendly battle but no ending was shown.

I won't be surprised if we see the same here. Naruto/ Sasuke battling it out and camera zooms to Hinata and Sakura laughing in background and then "the end". Though I wouldn't want to imagine member rage after that. Many were still annoyed last time that Kishi never showed if Itachi was better than Nagato or not , for Nagato never really fought himself nor was willing too.

Edit: And oh power ups would be there. Mad power ups mostly. It just would be their favourite character. I can guarantee that.
 
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The people who say they can write a better story than Kishi would go crazy just thinking of plot points alone.It's easy to say you can do something,another to actually do it.
 

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This reminds me of Itachi fans so much. Lol

And fans of other characters as well,I guarantee their faves would be god like while their hated characters would be treated like chumps.
 
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