Konoha is a lot weaker

[Monkey King Enma]

there is Konohamaru~

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Truth. 8th Hokage right there.

Konoha have hyuuga...

Yeah but they lost Neji, he may have been even better than his uncle.

 

[Dannie]

The old days were better

 

[Migster257]

Kakashi hasn't lost, and possibly won't lose the Sharingan. Why you making predictions?

 

[lelerskates]

naruto, sasuke, and kakashi could solo all the villages individually..

Basically this. Naruto with his clones alone can solo all 4 of the other villages. Even if you don't count Sasuke as part of Konoha anymore Kakashi has PS now and can solo a village by himself.

 

[ShiroT]

its sad but the only thing the leaf has going for them is sakura Lol

 

[Lana Del Taka]

From the beginning of Naruto to now, Konoha has been severely weakened.

Many of it's major powerhouses have been taken out.

Jiraiya- Legendary Sanin, Kage level
Hiruzen- Kage assassinated by Oro
Might Guy (maybe)- Arguably best taijutsu user of the NV
Kakashi's sharingan- the loss of his coveted Mangekyo Sharingan is a heavy toll
Neji- Top tier Hyuuga member
Shikaku- Genius tactician and adviser
Inoichi- Another head brain of Konoha. (Intel and communication)
Itachi- protecter of Konoha from the shadows. (Died a proud leaf shinobi)
Asuma- very capable jonin


Naruto's power up alone probably covers for all of their losses and then some, in terms of firepower and force.

However, excluding Naruto, the Leaf is nowhere near as powerful as it once was.

I have hope in the K11 stepping up and becoming the new backbone of the Leaf!


Did I miss any other important deaths? Thoughts??

Jiraiya- Was never really in Konoha
Hiruzen- Isn't needed, they did just fine without him
Might Guy- still alive. There's also Lee
Kakashi's sharingan- I think the two Obito gave him are permanent. (provably not)
Neji- isn't needed, they have Hinata and Hiashi
Shikaku- Shikamaru
Inoichi- Ino
Itachi- Hasn't been in Konoha for like 10 years
Asuma- fodder. Isn't needed

 

[SoloKing]

its sad but the only thing the leaf has going for them is sakura Lol

So basically they're doomed...

 

[Espadara Uchiha]

Why isn't Danzo on that list?! Handled the darkness of the village, possesses Wood Release/ Multiple Sharingan.

 

[Ambivalence]

I'm pretty sure current Naruto>all other villages. If Sasuke also comes back, it's a complete overkill. Doubt Kakashi's gonna keep Obito's MS, though.

Two demi-gods more than make up for all the losses you listed, at least in military strength. Not that it matters, all should be united and peaceful after the war is over.

 

[Monkey King Enma]

Jiraiya- Was never really in Konoha
Hiruzen- Isn't needed, they did just fine without him
Might Guy- still alive. There's also Lee
Kakashi's sharingan- I think the two Obito gave him are permanent. (provably not)
Neji- isn't needed, they have Hinata and Hiashi
Shikaku- Shikamaru
Inoichi- Ino
Itachi- Hasn't been in Konoha for like 10 years
Asuma- fodder. Isn't needed

Well when you put it like that you can pretty much go through any member of Konoha and make them sound like fodder.
Nope. Disagree completely

Why isn't Danzo on that list?! Handled the darkness of the village, possesses Wood Release/ Multiple Sharingan.

Frick! How could I forget Danzo?? The man was a monster. KA, mokuton, izanagi, plus he was crucial for the functionality of the village. Head of root + handling the darkness

HEAVY toll the Leaf. I agree

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Well when you put it like that you can pretty much go through any member of Konoha and make them sound like fodder.
Nope. Disagree completely



Frick! How could I forget Danzo?? The man was a monster. KA, mokuton, izanagi, plus he was crucial for the functionality of the village. Head of root + handling the darkness

HEAVY toll the Leaf. I agree

What? The point is most of those people aren't needed and the people that are can be replaced easily.

 

[Monkey King Enma]

What? The point is most of those people aren't needed and the people that are can be replaced easily.

I gotcha but I still disagree completely.

Doesn't matter who's role can be replaced. Whenever a top tier shinobi dies the Leaf loses strength

Having Jiraiya AND Naruto is better than just Naruto
Having Shikaku AND Shilamaru is better than just Shikamaru.

In a chess game, Any time Chess pieces are lost, the player's side is a weakened. Even if there are other pieces to replace it

 

[Legend Slayer]

You just made me realize how much we lost since the beginning. Kinda sad...

 

[Monkey King Enma]

You just made me realize how much we lost since the beginning. Kinda sad...

I know :-/ BUT. Like Kakashi said, the new generation will always surpass the current one!!

 

[Michael]

From the beginning of Naruto to now, Konoha has been severely weakened.

Many of it's major powerhouses have been taken out.

Jiraiya- Legendary Sanin, Kage level
Hiruzen- Kage assassinated by Oro
Might Guy (maybe)- Arguably best taijutsu user of the NV
Kakashi's sharingan- the loss of his coveted Mangekyo Sharingan is a heavy toll
Neji- Top tier Hyuuga member
Shikaku- Genius tactician and adviser
Inoichi- Another head brain of Konoha. (Intel and communication)
Itachi- protecter of Konoha from the shadows. (Died a proud leaf shinobi)
Asuma- very capable jonin


Naruto's power up alone probably covers for all of their losses and then some, in terms of firepower and force.

However, excluding Naruto, the Leaf is nowhere near as powerful as it once was.

I have hope in the K11 stepping up and becoming the new backbone of the Leaf!


Did I miss any other important deaths? Thoughts??

Rikudou Naruto,Rikudou Sasuke & DMS Kakashi FTW!

 

[Monkey King Enma]

rikudou naruto,rikudou sasuke & dms kakashi ftw!

yesssssssssss

 

[Migster257]

I know :-/ BUT. Like Kakashi said, the new generation will always surpass the current one!!

Not true. Tobirama's generation did not pass Hashirama's. Hardly anyone from the current generation surpassed the previous one. Kakashi, Gai, Tsunade, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, etc, all wreck 90% of the current generation.

 

[Monkey King Enma]

Not true. Tobirama's generation did not pass Hashirama's. Hardly anyone from the current generation surpassed the previous one. Kakashi, Gai, Tsunade, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, etc, all wreck 90% of the current generation.

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[Char Aznable]

From the beginning of Naruto to now, Konoha has been severely weakened.

Many of it's major powerhouses have been taken out.

Jiraiya- Legendary Sanin, Kage level
Hiruzen- Kage assassinated by Oro
Might Guy (maybe)- Arguably best taijutsu user of the NV
Kakashi's sharingan- the loss of his coveted Mangekyo Sharingan is a heavy toll
Neji- Top tier Hyuuga member
Shikaku- Genius tactician and adviser
Inoichi- Another head brain of Konoha. (Intel and communication)
Itachi- protecter of Konoha from the shadows. (Died a proud leaf shinobi)
Asuma- very capable jonin


Naruto's power up alone probably covers for all of their losses and then some, in terms of firepower and force.

However, excluding Naruto, the Leaf is nowhere near as powerful as it once was.

I have hope in the K11 stepping up and becoming the new backbone of the Leaf!


Did I miss any other important deaths? Thoughts??

@Bold
Face wall? Is that how a "proud leaf shinobi dies"? More like how a failure and outlaw dies.

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[To Whatever]

The homie said, "Hov, there ain't many of us." I told him, "Less is more, *****. It's plenty of us."

Nardo
Sauce
Flykashi

Can carry the village on their backs easy.