kaguya vs madara (the third eye of both of them is restricted)

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That's hella unfair....
ok,i restricted the same eye from both of them ,how can that be unfair?
madara has the same eye of kaguya(not just the same level)but he hadnt the chance to use the dimensional shifting,so to finish that issue,and to know the stronger ,i restricted it from both of them
 

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ok,i restricted the same eye from both of them ,how can that be unfair?
madara has the same eye of kaguya(not just the same level)but he hadnt the chance to use the dimensional shifting,so to finish that issue,and to know the stronger ,i restricted it from both of them
That's an assumption that he can use the dimension shifting , anyways you basically restricted kaguya's main powers (s/t portal and dimension shifting)....
 

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That's an assumption that he can use the dimension shifting , anyways you basically restricted kaguya's main powers (s/t portal and dimension shifting)....
It's the same eye with everything being the exact same, why's it wrong to assume the two have the same powers? It's the same as assuming Hinata's Byakugan can do what Neji's has or that Obito's rennigan can do what Nagato's has.smh
 
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Not sure how her 3rd eye is going to make a difference, since Madara will sense her portals and dodge it with his reflexes as Naruto did. Other than that, Madara pretty much shits. There is a reason why Masashi Kishimoto took out Madara and put a weaker opponent.​
 

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It's the same eye with everything being the exact same, why's it wrong to assume the two have the same powers? It's the same as assuming Hinata's Byakugan can do what Neji's has or that Obito's rennigan can do what Nagato's has.smh
Where was it stated that the eye allows her to make portals?

Not sure how her 3rd eye is going to make a difference, since Madara will sense her portals and dodge it with his reflexes as Naruto did. Other than that, Madara pretty much shits. There is a reason why Masashi Kishimoto took out Madara and put a weaker opponent.​
Weaker? Kaguya has better reaction time than Madara.




With Madara they actually got their hits in, but with Kaguya they were stopped dead in their tracks. Naruto blitz Kaguya when she was low on chakra.

That and she tanked six RS while Madara was wrecked by one.
 
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Where was it stated that the eye allows her to make portals?



Weaker? Kaguya has better reaction time than Madara.




With Madara they actually got their hits in, but with Kaguya they were stopped dead in their tracks. Naruto blitz Kaguya when she was low on chakra.

That and she tanked six RS while Madara was wrecked by one.
Naruto's and Sasuke's strike speed is a lot slower in the second scan compared to the first one. It doesn't prove she has better reactions, since Naruto (who blitzed her) couldn't blitz Madara. Her having low Chakra doesn't negate reaction time.
 

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Naruto's and Sasuke's strike speed is a lot slower in the second scan compared to the first one. It doesn't prove she has better reactions, since Naruto (who blitzed her) couldn't blitz Madara. Her having low Chakra doesn't negate reaction time.
Why is their striking slower? And Naruto was flying to Kaguya.



^That's traveling speed and Madara never faced Naruto with flight. Plus how would being low on energy not affect reaction time?
 

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With Madara they actually got their hits in, but with Kaguya they were stopped dead in their tracks. Naruto blitz Kaguya when she was low on chakra.
They used Jutsus against Madara, that increases their range, they tried too touch Kaguya with the palm of their hands.
 

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Why is their striking slower? And Naruto was flying to Kaguya.



^That's traveling speed and Madara never faced Naruto with flight. Plus how would being low on energy not affect reaction time?
The gravity's attraction force would affect their movements, considering they were on the air. Second, the distance and time-span was longer. Now, lets analyse both event accurately:

1st scan - Both were in the ground, thus the gravity would not slow them down. Their Jutsu can expand the physical touch, as that member pointed out. Madara was teleported right behind them, and they prepared their strike at correct position.

2nd scan - Both were on the air, so gravity's attraction force would affect their movements. They used their palms to make physical contact. The distance between Kaguya and the two gave her enough time to react.

So, with this explanation, we can come with the conclusion that my analogy is right. Otherwise, Naruto would have blitzed Madara, but he failed to do so. Chakra is physical and spiritual energy; it has nothing to do with reaction time. Reaction time is about the acute of your vision.
 

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The gravity's attraction force would affect their movements, considering they were on the air. Second, the distance and time-span was longer. Now, lets analyse both event accurately:

1st scan - Both were in the ground, thus the gravity would not slow them down. Their Jutsu can expand the physical touch, as that member pointed out. Madara was teleported right behind them, and they prepared their strike at correct position.

2nd scan - Both were on the air, so gravity's attraction force would affect their movements. They used their palms to make physical contact. The distance between Kaguya and the two gave her enough time to react.

So, with this explanation, we can come with the conclusion that my analogy is right. Otherwise, Naruto would have blitzed Madara, but he failed to do so. Chakra is physical and spiritual energy; it has nothing to do with reaction time. Reaction time is about the acute of your vision.
Naruto can fly so that gravity argument does not work for him. Madara moved faster with flight than he did on foot. I'll give you the second point.

My other points still stand though. Madara never faced Naruto with flight and being low on physical energy does effect your reflexes.

It hasn't. ... but whenever she switches dimensions, it always zooms on her third eye, just as it does with other Dojutsus
Yeah, for switching dimensions. But we don't see that when opens a portal.
 
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Sure, let Madara have all of his main techniques while restricting all of Kaguya's why don't you? I can't believe there are members stupid enough to think Madara's stronger than Kaguya overall, ignoring manga facts.


As for this set of conditions, it depends. She's definitely stronger in brute force, but Deva Path can be a problem. On the other hand, she can transform into a juubi. It could go either way.
 
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