Does Hashirama stand a chance against Orochimaru?

[riley freeman]

What does Tobirama add? Minato already has ftg Hiruzen already has Suiton techs what is the use of Tobirama?

2nd can teleport minato when hashirama is about to seal or strain him, plus he can use shadow clones and his OP bomb technique

 

[riley freeman]

OP you and i both know that Hashirama rapestomps so just stop U_U

With hype yes, but no, I havent seen anything that can cause orochimaru to lose

By the way dsm Orochimaru is fanfiction

Kabuto clearly stated that orochimaru learned it already, he just couldnt use it because of his body and he doesnt need it to beat hashirama, all he needs is edo tensei

 

[KidGamer65]

2.4th or 2nd are fast enough to mark hashirama, third hokage isnt slow either, he is fast enough to grab hashirama while he is being distracted by either 2nd or 4th hokage and perform the tech before hashirama knows whats happening

Again, not happening. While in Sage Mode Hashirama easily reacts to any attempts and he counters with Mokuton. Not to mention he'll be on top of his constructs like Shinsuusenju, so Tobirama making it up there before it squashes him isn't happening. Same goes for Minato. If he abandons his Kurama Avatar to try and mark Hashirama, he gets slapped by SS.

Lol. So Hiruzen is going to get right in front of Hashirama who is standing on Shinsuusenju even though he won't be able to make it up the statue without getting caught and squashed, nor will he blindside him as he can sense.

If Hashirama had a sealing jutsu, he'd take this, but he doesn't, so he loses.

 

[Zlatán]

This is the most single handedly the most easiest question to answer

Hashirama, no questions asked!!

Case f*cking closed

 

[Mahesvara]

1. Okay
2.4th or 2nd are fast enough to mark hashirama, third hokage isnt slow either, he is fast enough to grab hashirama while he is being distracted by either 2nd or 4th hokage and perform the tech before hashirama knows whats happening



why cant he restrain kcm minato? or tobirama, or even the 3rd? and wood clone isnt faster than teleportation, all they have to do is let 2nd and 4th mark each of them and hashirama isnt touching any of them. Plus the fact that hashirama isnt too bright

He could restrain Hiruzen and Tobriama but not BM Minato too, because the nine tails chakra is involved and there is no way in hell that Orochimaru could restrain the power of the nine tails. For them to tag Hashirama with FTG they would have to get close which would be impossible. Deep forest emergence and giant budda GG.

 

[nightwolf888]

wood buddha summoning, it won't end well for Orochimaru

 

[riley freeman]

Again, not happening. While in Sage Mode Hashirama easily reacts to any attempts and he counters with Mokuton. Not to mention he'll be on top of his constructs like Shinsuusenju, so Tobirama making it up there before it squashes him isn't happening. Same goes for Minato. If he abandons his Kurama Avatar to try and mark Hashirama, he gets slapped by SS.

Lol. So Hiruzen is going to get right in front of Hashirama who is standing on Shinsuusenju even though he won't be able to make it up the statue without getting caught and squashed, nor will he blindside him as he can sense.

If Hashirama had a sealing jutsu, he'd take this, but he doesn't, so he loses.

SS isnt touching any of them, obito also had sensing ability but that didnt stop tobirama for marking him

3rd can perform the shinigami on 4th but he teleports to hashirama(after he is marked) and swith, the same thing he did to jin obito or if that doesnt work( probably wouldnt), they can just wait for hashirama to lose some stamina and then it's over

Agreed

 

[Ansatsuken]

I thnk in this fight Orochimaru will win if he brought 3 edo hokages

Actually it very difficult for Hashirama ot fight an edo

We know what edo right and the methos to defeated them

That mean the problem is anything

You can't said one problem is solve but another one problem is impossible

You want to win that mean everything must be encounter by Hashi

If one problem can't be encounter and also the problem is matter the most. The result Hash will lose

It not easy to countering FTG user if hashi don't have fast reaction speed, No makuton able to interrupt/distract Edo FTG users

That the single most prominent problem for hashi

This FTG user have been fighthing with Juubi jin, the feat that hashi impossible to emulate. Even he admitted that Juubito stronger than him. But for FTG users nothing can't be done.

Hiraishin Ghosun Mawashi will Trolling hashi like no tomorrow. And Hiruzen with his elemental manipulation power plus Fuinjutsu will inflict heavy defeated for Hashi

I don't even brought Orochimaru here

I rest my case

 

[riley freeman]

He could restrain Hiruzen and Tobriama but not BM Minato too, because the nine tails chakra is involved and there is no way in hell that Orochimaru could restrain the power of the nine tails. For them to tag Hashirama with FTG they would have to get close which would be impossible. Deep forest emergence and giant budda GG.

Orochimaru has hashirama cells and they put the 9 tails down easily, giant budda is a waste of chakra because they cant die, besides, they are faster than it

wood buddha summoning, it won't end well for Orochimaru

All orochimaru has to do is keep his distance like kabuto did and watch the fun from afar

 

[riley freeman]

I thnk in this fight Orochimaru will win if he brought 3 edo hokages

Actually it very difficult for Hashirama ot fight an edo

We know what edo right and the methos to defeated them

That mean the problem is anything

You can't said one problem is solve but another one problem is impossible

You want to win that mean everything must be encounter by Hashi

If one problem can't be encounter and also the problem is matter the most. The result Hash will lose

It not easy to countering FTG user if hashi don't have fast reaction speed, No makuton able to interrupt/distract Edo FTG users

That the single most prominent problem for hashi

This FTG user have been fighthing with Juubi jin, the feat that hashi impossible to emulate. Even he admitted that Juubito stronger than him. But for FTG users nothing can't be done.

Hiraishin Ghosun Mawashi will Trolling hashi like no tomorrow. And Hiruzen with his elemental manipulation power plus Fuinjutsu will inflict heavy defeated for Hashi

I don't even brought Orochimaru here

I rest my case

Thank you, I agree with all, i mean, juubito couldnt touch ftg users but he beats hashirama so I dont see how Hashirama beats them

 

[Untamed]

Well.. Orochimaru has only used 33% versions of Edo before, which were Hashirama and Tobirama. He only summoned Tobirama, Minato, Hiruzen during the war, but he hasn't used them in battle yet. They did what they wanted to do, so this is just like saying Edo Itachi doesn't have Yata Mirror because he didn't use it as an Edo. Orochimaru didn't really make the 90% Edo do anything this time, he only restricted Tobirama's movements. They could probably resist his commands.

Cant Hashirama just hide in the earth(like yamato/zetsu) and create Gigantic Flowering Trees and unleash its pollen that would put his enemies to sleep? He could also use infinite darkness jutsu to blind them and they will be forced to use their tracking / sensing jutsu.

 

[KidGamer65]

SS isnt touching any of them, obito also had sensing ability but that didnt stop tobirama for marking him

So they are going to climb up Shinsuusenju and not get hit by it? Is this some kind of joke? Lmao. Unless they teleport away (Defeating the point of getting to Hashirama) they get squashed. I have no reason to believe they'll evade on foot when they are literally on the statue. No reason at all.

Juubito attacked Tobirama, giving Tobirama the chance to mark him. Hashirama isn't charging at Tobirama here, you are stating the opposite, so its not even a valid explanation.

3rd can perform the shinigami on 4th but he teleports to hashirama(after he is marked) and swith, the same thing he did to jin obito or if that doesnt work( probably wouldnt), they can just wait for hashirama to lose some stamina and then it's over

Once again, Tobirama has to reach Hashirama in order to switch the latter and Minato's places like they did in canon. Tobirama isn't scaling Shinsuusenju without getting crushed by 1 of its hundreds of hands. Not a chance.


Then it pretty much shows that they can't actively beat him, they can only outlast him.

 

[riley freeman]

Well.. Orochimaru has only used 33% versions of Edo before, which were Hashirama and Tobirama. He only summoned Tobirama, Minato, Hiruzen during the war, but he hasn't used them in battle yet. They did what they wanted to do, so this is just like saying Edo Itachi doesn't have Yata Mirror because he didn't use it as an Edo. Orochimaru didn't really make the Edo do anything this time, he only restricted Tobirama's movements. They could probably resist his commands.

He said he would use them to destroy konoha if sasuke said so he can control them

So they are going to climb up Shinsuusenju and not get hit by it? Is this some kind of joke? Lmao. Unless they teleport away (Defeating the point of getting to Hashirama) they get squashed. I have no reason to believe they'll evade on foot when they are literally on the statue. No reason at all.

Juubito attacked Tobirama, giving Tobirama the chance to mark him. Hashirama isn't charging at Tobirama here, you are stating the opposite, so its not even a valid explanation.



Once again, Tobirama has to reach Hashirama in order to switch the latter and Minato's places like they did in canon. Tobirama isn't scaling Shinsuusenju without getting crushed by 1 of its hundreds of hands. Not a chance.


Then it pretty much shows that they can't actively beat him, they can only outlast him.

You're missing the point, they will eventually get to the head no matter what someway or the other
hashirama is dense and orochimaru can find a way for them to mark him, it's not like he would have the Shinsuusenju from the start

Getting crushed wouldnt mean anything if he can just regenerate and continut from where he stopped
Outlasting someone is beating them, the only reason hashirama won madara was because he outlasted madara and nothing else

 

[Light up the Darkness]

Hashirama is overrated

How can kill orochimaru if he is immortal

Last time i checked the only way to beat oro is to seal him or use genjutsu

And hashirama doesnt have both of these 2 soluation

Edo tensei is even no needed here

 

[Untamed]

He said he would use them to destroy konoha if sasuke said so he can control them

He included Hashirama in that comment and you saw what Hashirama did. You also saw what Tobirama did , which surprised Orochimaru, and Hashirama had to cool Tobirama off because Orochimaru was too slow to stop him maybe, or Oro was startled by Hashi's chakra.


"Cant Hashirama just hide in the earth(like yamato/zetsu) and create Gigantic Flowering Trees and unleash its pollen that would put his enemies to sleep? He could also use infinite darkness jutsu to blind them and they will be forced to use their tracking / sensing jutsu."

If this is really about whether Minato, Hiruzen, Tobirama could beat Hashirama 3vs1 then yes.
Hashirama could still stop Orochimaru from summoning them though.

Hashirama is overrated

How can kill orochimaru if he is immortal

Last time i checked the only way to beat oro is to seal him or use genjutsu

And hashirama doesnt have both of these 2 soluation

Edo tensei is even no needed here

Hashirama could beat put Orochimaru to sleep , then kill him.

 

[riley freeman]

He included Hashirama in that comment and you saw what Hashirama did. You also saw what Tobirama did , which surprised Orochimaru, and Hashirama had to cool Tobirama off because Orochimaru was too slow to stop him maybe, or Oro was startled by Hashi's chakra.


"Cant Hashirama just hide in the earth(like yamato/zetsu) and create Gigantic Flowering Trees and unleash its pollen that would put his enemies to sleep? He could also use infinite darkness jutsu to blind them and they will be forced to use their tracking / sensing jutsu."

If this is really about whether Minato, Hiruzen, Tobirama could beat Hashirama 3vs1 then yes.


Hashirama could beat put Orochimaru to sleep , then kill him.

but in the end, he stopped tobirama didnt he, apart from hashirama, none of them can resist the technique

 

[Light up the Darkness]

He included Hashirama in that comment and you saw what Hashirama did. You also saw what Tobirama did , which surprised Orochimaru, and Hashirama had to cool Tobirama off because Orochimaru was too slow to stop him maybe, or Oro was startled by Hashi's chakra.


"Cant Hashirama just hide in the earth(like yamato/zetsu) and create Gigantic Flowering Trees and unleash its pollen that would put his enemies to sleep? He could also use infinite darkness jutsu to blind them and they will be forced to use their tracking / sensing jutsu."

If this is really about whether Minato, Hiruzen, Tobirama could beat Hashirama 3vs1 then yes.


Hashirama could beat put Orochimaru to sleep , then kill him.

U did not proof anything

Even 3 years old can say hashirama can win yet without bring any fact

Explain how hashirama take this without seals and genjutsu

Take the mic ..

 

[Untamed]

but in the end, he stopped tobirama didnt he, apart from hashirama, none of them can resist the technique

Yes he restricted a 90% Edo Tobirama , but did he actually force him to perform any jutsu?
In this battle, are you implying the Edo are already summoned and start off the fight or does Orochimaru have to summon their coffins in the middle of battle like in the Hiruzen fight? Hashirama could destroy them while theyre in their coffins.

U did not proof anything

Even 3 years old can say hashirama can win yet without bring any fact

Explain how hashirama take this without seals and genjutsu

Take the mic ..

lol You didn't prove anything either. You've seen what Hashirama can do and you've seen what Orochimaru can do haven't you? How do you think Orochimaru will beat Hashirama without edo?

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

Hashirama beat's Minato Hiruzen and Tobirama plus Orochimaru.

This right here

 

[Ansatsuken]

hashirama don't have mayfly all along this manga progression

For someone as him that have story longer than 6 tomoe rinnegan story

It easy to assume he don't have mayfly technique if in any given panel of him in this manga, he never show that ability.

It different from 6 Tomoe Rinnegan, where it full myth/ability is still being unknown. We can only judge when the eye is ending it usage by Sasuke

Is Tobirama also posses The Bringer of Darkness jutsu?