Why Sasuke cannot suppress Naruto's Bijuu,

[Shadow Phantasm]

That seal is Hagoromos mark

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That marking just means they have enough of Hagaromo's chakra in them.

Or it could because Hagoromo was the first Juubi jin.Those markings appearing on all the Juubi jinchurikis after that is not a coincidence.

 

[frozen5]

Byakugan lets them see chakra points they cant enter someones subconscious and see a living beast inside them
The gedo mazo was the seal I suppose. It makes sense

the gedo mazou doesnt exactly exist anymore though.. :|

 

[Gagster]

Then why doesn't Sasuke have them?
Also, notice how the other person you pointed to have it as well was also a Juubi Jinchuriki, further supporting my point.

The sage's chakra =/= Sage's senjutsu
They don't have enough of the sage's chakra in them.

Also The sage isn't a Juubi Jinchuriki there.

 

[NukaCola]

Then why doesn't Sasuke have them? He's using Rikudou Senjutsu as well. Obito and Madara also aren't in Sage Mode.

Sage Mode ≠ Senjutsu

 

[frozen5]

Then why doesn't Sasuke have them? He's using Rikudou Senjutsu as well. Obito and Madara also aren't in Sage Mode.

obito and madara were infact in rikudo sage mode/senjutsu and sasuke is not applying rikudo senjutsu to his body to get the markings hes just adding them to his attacks

 

[WolfHaley]

rikudo sage mode....

The sage's chakra =/= Sage's senjutsu
They don't have enough of the sage's chakra in them.

Also The sage isn't a Juubi Jinchuriki there.

Sage Mode ≠ Senjutsu

Obito and Madara aren't using Sage Mode in any form, just manipulating Senjutsu, and all three of you have agreed that utilizing Senjutsu isn't the same as Sage Mode. They have the marks, so the mark does not equal Rikudou Sage Mode

 

[WolfHaley]

obito and madara were infact in rikudo sage mode/senjutsu and sasuke is not applying rikudo senjutsu to his body to get the markings hes just adding them to his attacks

One scan saying either of them are in Sage Mode?

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Perfect. i was thinking about this earlier - Naruto and Bee have their Bijuu sealed in them with different seals,and besides,at the time Sasuke was focusing on learning how to use the MS.

Naruto's Kyuubi seal is unique - it's different from what all the other Jins have.

Rather its unique or different. That's not the matter of the debate here. Its the matter of Sasuke being capable of suppressing Naruto's Bijju's powers or not. I honestly think its not possible, if it was than it would have been done a long while ago.

I dont know, maybe plot??

I am sorry but that can't be used as a excuse. By that logic this war is clearly pointless since they could so easily control there beasts and extract them out. Also we should reconsider the condition that Naruto was in when Sasuke did it. You guys are comparing a part 2 Naruto that did not know how to control his powers to a Naruto who knows how to control his powers. I am very well sure Naruto knows how to control that world he is in now.

They think it's possible. At this point might as well just let them think what they want.

It seems people like to bring up these weird theories to bring Naruto down.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

A. naruto was not even going to enter kyubi mode and would have dispelled it himself
B. this can never be used in battle because its quite obvious sasuke had to stand there watching at naruto the whole time
C. naruto can forcebly take chakra from the kyubi even if he is seal/genjutsued/surpressed/high

Naruto was enter Kyuubi mode,by Kyuubi's will,not his own,but Sasuke noticed the change in Naruto,went in there and suppressed the Kyuubi's power,thus stopping the Kyuubi mode.

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Yes,Naruto was ABOUT to stop the Kyuubi but Sasuke did it himself.

3TS Sasuke >Kyuubi - that was the piont if my thread which the Kyuubi himself supports.

 

[Sageflash]

Genjutsu literally is mind control. Genjutsu work on Bijuu, as never has it been shown that a jinchuriki can break bijuu out of genjutsu. Even Minato had to use a contract seal to break Obito's genjutsu.

Genjutsu is manipulating the chakra flow in another. Mind Control is wiping a prior slate clean and replacing it with entirely new content. They are close, but not the same thing. Genjutsu is a ninja art like any other and can be broken.

There's no reason why a jinchuriki couldn't release his Bijuu, Naruto could have disrupted Sasuke when he diffused Kurama's chakra but he stood there. They would do it the same way Gyuki broke Killer Bee, through their jin telekinesis and jump starting their chakra flow.

Obviously Minato had to use a contract seal, he wasn't Kurama's jin at the time.

 

[frozen5]

Obito and Madara aren't using Sage Mode in any form, just manipulating Senjutsu, and all three of you have agreed that utilizing Senjutsu isn't the same as Sage Mode. They have the marks, so the mark does not equal Rikudou Sage Mode

obito and madara's bodies and 100% amplified by senjutsu and by definition thats entering sage mode... sasuke is not/cannot apply the senjutsu to his body... and how do we even know what sasuke got was rikudo senjutsu and not just some nature energy?

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Rather its unique or different. That's not the matter of the debate here. Its the matter of Sasuke being capable of suppressing Naruto's Bijju's powers or not. I honestly think its not possible, if it was than it would have been done a long while ago.



I am sorry but that can't be used as a excuse. By that logic this war is clearly pointless since they could so easily control there beasts and extract them out. Also we should reconsider the condition that Naruto was in when Sasuke did it. You guys are comparing a part 2 Naruto that did not know how to control his powers to a Naruto who knows how to control his powers. I am very well sure Naruto knows how to control that world he is in now.



It seems people like to bring up these weird theories to bring Naruto down.

I would do no such thing,I'm just entertaining the possibility is all.

 

[V h o]

One scan saying either of them are in Sage Mode?

Madara was since he had Hashirama's sage mode. Obito probably was not though.

 

[frozen5]

Naruto was enter Kyuubi mode,by Kyuubi's will,not his own,but Sasuke noticed the change in Naruto,went in there and suppressed the Kyuubi's power,thus stopping the Kyuubi mode.

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Yes,Naruto was ABOUT to stop the Kyuubi but Sasuke did it himself.

3TS Sasuke >Kyuubi - that was the piont if my thread which the Kyuubi himself supports.

thats an obvious fact if anyone disagrees they are just stupid

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

I would do no such thing,I'm just entertaining the possibility is all.

I was not directing it towards you in general. Just some people. Sorry if my words offended you.

 

[frozen5]

One scan saying either of them are in Sage Mode?

"Sage Mode is the result of using natural energy along with a shinobi's normal chakra to drastically empower all of their abilities." - fact

and the jubi is 100% nature energy fully empowering their bodies to the point they are immortal.


yea sage mode.....

 

[Styles]

the gedo mazou doesnt exactly exist anymore though.. :|

Kinda does the tailed beast are inside of the Gedo Mazo which is inside of Kaguya,

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Rather its unique or different. That's not the matter of the debate here. Its the matter of Sasuke being capable of suppressing Naruto's Bijju's powers or not. I honestly think its not possible, if it was than it would have been done a long while ago.

The piont of my thread was 3TS Sasuke> Kyuubi,and i mentioned how he suppress the Kyuubi's power back then.I never said anything about Sasuke doing it after Naruto got control of the Kyuubi.

I just now mentioned Bee's Seal in comparison to Naruto's,which Sasuke was able to get too.

thats an obvious fact if anyone disagrees they are just stupid

I know, this thread was made inorder to show disagreement.Im pretty sure that gagster voted, "Kyuubi>Sasuke" in my poll.

 

[WolfHaley]

Madara was since he had Hashirama's sage mode. Obito probably was not though.

Ah but that's not a Rikudou Sage Mode. Add this into Obito's lack of Sage Mode, then it proves it my point

"Sage Mode is the result of using natural energy along with a shinobi's normal chakra to drastically empower all of their abilities." - fact

and the jubi is 100% nature energy fully empowering their bodies to the point they are immortal.


yea sage mode.....

But you guys said just earlier Sage Mode isn't JUST using Senjutsu. Now you're saying Sage Mode is just Senjutsu with your chakra to increase your power. That's exactly what Sasuke is doing, that's why his Chidori is black. Still waiting for a scan saying Obito or Madara were in a Rikudou Senjutsu.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

The piont of my thread was 3TS Sasuke> Kyuubi,and i mentioned how he suppress the Kyuubi's power back then.I never said anything about Sasuke doing it after Naruto got control of the Kyuubi.

I just now mentioned Bee's Seal in comparison to Naruto's,which Sasuke was able to get too.

Sasuke was able to get to? Show me the scan of that than.