[Gen] Shóūri

[McRazor]

A simple but useful tech. I think this is one of those techs where it takes time to figure out that its an illusion. The user creates an illusion where the opponent sees a fireball descending from the sky upon them. Normally in an illusion when you see something approaching you, like the clone in Servant tech, you can quickly spot that its a Gen by deducting that the clone has no shadow cast on the ground. But that reasoning won't work in the case of the fireball. The fireball is nowhere near the ground but its descending from the sky. In case of shadows, higher an object is from the ground, further away is its shadow from the point where it will land. So until the fireball comes near the ground(and the opponent), the shadow reasoning cannot be used. This technique fails badly when the battle is going on water or ice surface cause the moment the opponent sees the fire ball has no reflection in the water or on the ice surface, he will know its not real. The opponent can figure out its a Gen when the fireball comes near him and he can't feel the heat of the fireball. But that's actually time consuming. The opponent can figure out its a Gen if he doesn't hear the sound of flames. If there is wind blowing in the terrain and when the fireball descends but you can't see the flames blowing a little in the direction of the wind, then its not real but an illusion. A cool way to use this is just after using a multiple projectile fire tech. I'd first use a projectile where after firing multiple shots at my opponent, I'd shot one in the sky and then would bluff "How do you plan on taking care of the huge fireball that will hit you from above and burn you to ashes?" Then I'd use this tech to fool my opponent. One can come out of this tech by causing themselves a minor injury like a small slash in the skin.

Thank you sensei for explaining it so thoroughly. Well done. Excellent observation regarding the deduction. You seem to have a hang of this. Maybe we can do even more like this, we'll see.

Regarding the jutsu itself, there's not much I can really add. Maybe a cool use would be a combination with the ( Katon: Gōryūka no Jutsu ) - Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique that is used to prepare Kirin. You shoot the fireballs into the sky and then you follow up with this technique, making it seem as they descend. While in the air you sort of make them "merge" together so that the shooting into the sky actually makes some sense and this way your opponent see's the fireball while in reality you're setting up Kirin.

 

[Sherlock.]

Thank you sensei for explaining it so thoroughly. Well done. Excellent observation regarding the deduction. You seem to have a hang of this. Maybe we can do even more like this, we'll see.

Regarding the jutsu itself, there's not much I can really add. Maybe a cool use would be a combination with the ( Katon: Gōryūka no Jutsu ) - Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique that is used to prepare Kirin. You shoot the fireballs into the sky and then you follow up with this technique, making it seem as they descend. While in the air you sort of make them "merge" together so that the shooting into the sky actually makes some sense and this way your opponent see's the fireball while in reality you're setting up Kirin.

Thank You Sensei ^^

Yup that's a cool way to trick the opponent.

 

[McRazor]

Thank You Sensei ^^

Yup that's a cool way to trick the opponent.

( Genjutsu: Kasumi no Jutsu ) - Illusion Technique: Mist Technique
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user creates an illusionary clone that charges towards the enemy, jumps, then explodes in a cloud of cherry blossom petals which results in confusing the opponent and obscuring their vision, leaving them open for attack.

So, from the creation of the clone there's nothing really fishy about it but what gives it away are the petals that block your vision of the opponent which means that since you don't see him he can prepare an attack. Still, do you think there's a way to even know the clone is an illusion before he explodes in the cloud? This is essential because it could be the difference between life and death, obviously.

 

[Sherlock.]

I think this is a combination of trickery and concealing types of Genjutsu cause first you trick your opponent into believing a clone is running at them but by the time they prepare to counter the clone, it disperses into a cloud of cherry blossom petals concealing the user of this tech. I can figure out its a Gen when I see the clone but not its shadow cast on the ground, when I can't hear its footsteps or when I can't see its footmarks on the ground. This tech is similar to Servant tech so they can both be deduced as Genjutsus in the same way. I can get out of this tech by causing myself a minor slash in the skin.

 

[McRazor]

I think this is a combination of trickery and concealing types of Genjutsu cause first you trick your opponent into believing a clone is running at them but by the time they prepare to counter the clone, it disperses into a cloud of cherry blossom petals concealing the user of this tech. I can figure out its a Gen when I see the clone but not its shadow cast on the ground, when I can't hear its footsteps or when I can't see its footmarks on the ground. This tech is similar to Servant tech so they can both be deduced as Genjutsus in the same way. I can get out of this tech by causing myself a minor slash in the skin.

I agree, it's a pretty simple and easy genjutsu and there's not really much to add. Now to the B ranks.

(Magen: Nijū Kokoni Arazu no Jutsu) Demonic Illusion: Double False Surroundings Technique
Type: Supplmentary
Rank: B-Rank
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra: 20
Damage: N/A
Description:
The user will do a sequence of 3 handseals, putting his opponents under a double layered Genjutsu. The user is able to create false surroundings to fool his targets, much like the simpler version of the technique. However, the illusion is in fact layered. If the opponent manages to release the first one, he will then feel the effects of the second illusion. If, for example, the first illusion is that of a desert and the second that of a forest, upon releasing the first one, the opponent will see the desert fade away while the forest appears around him, making him think he dispelled the illusion while in essence he is still caught in one. Each illusion is equivalent to C-Rank and both are casted at the same time. While normal releases will release only one illusion at a time, a strong enough pain or an external source of chakra can dispel both at the same time.

Layering. If you read the

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you could've learned how layering works with different illusions with different effects and ranks, however this is a single genjutsu that allows you to layer it, doubling its efficiency. Basically, the opponent will have to release twice from it which is insanely useful because it gives you twice as much time to advance on the opponent. Notice that this is only a visual genjutsu, and a quite poor at that, but if you change the key features of the battlefield it can be immensely helpful.

 

[Sherlock.]

This is a trickery type of Genjutsu as you trick your opponent by changing the surroundings. What makes it useful is that its a Gen with layers and useful to buy time as the opponent needs to release himself twice. Other than that its pretty easy to figure out its a Gen by using the other four senses. If I were to find myself in this Gen, I'd make a deep slash in my skin or use free form or low ranked Tai to get out of it and get out of both layers at once.

 

[McRazor]

This is a trickery type of Genjutsu as you trick your opponent by changing the surroundings. What makes it useful is that its a Gen with layers and useful to buy time as the opponent needs to release himself twice. Other than that its pretty easy to figure out its a Gen by using the other four senses. If I were to find myself in this Gen, I'd make a deep slash in my skin or use free form or low ranked Tai to get out of it and get out of both layers at once.

You're right, though, you have to be careful with slashes and when damaging your body. Most of the time, people will just injure whatever they can get to first in order to save time, but sometimes it's not really a smart idea to do so. Sometimes you can nick an important artery and even bleed to death. In my honest opinion, this isn't such a dangerous genjutsu and if you already figured out that it is one, you shouldn't have a hard time "suppressing" it. With the knowledge of your eyes being fooled, you simply resort to your hearing. Maybe the terrain has changed but the opponent's attack will still be the same.

 

[Sherlock.]

You're right, though, you have to be careful with slashes and when damaging your body. Most of the time, people will just injure whatever they can get to first in order to save time, but sometimes it's not really a smart idea to do so. Sometimes you can nick an important artery and even bleed to death. In my honest opinion, this isn't such a dangerous genjutsu and if you already figured out that it is one, you shouldn't have a hard time "suppressing" it. With the knowledge of your eyes being fooled, you simply resort to your hearing. Maybe the terrain has changed but the opponent's attack will still be the same.

Alright Understood Sensei.

 

[McRazor]

Alright Understood Sensei.

( Konoha-Ryū: Yanagi ) - Leaf Ninja Art: Willow
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage points: 35
Description: The user waves their sword back and forth, which when seen by the target locks them in a genjutsu which causes them to hallucinate multiple waving arms. The movement resembles that of a willow tree blowing in the wind. With the enemy off guard, the user is free to cut them down.

An useful jutsu if you're a taijutsu or kenjutsu user. It allows you to confuse the opponent by making him see multiple arms (or rather limbs) that are attacking him. This will hopefully redirect his focus from you to the whole situation and in theory should provide you an opening for the final blow. If you're familiar with my CFS Sound propulsion, a portion of it is based on this jutsu and consists of tricking the opponent into seeing phantom limbs.

 

[Sherlock.]

I think this tech falls in the "Other" type of Genjutsus as it neither paralyses nor tricks the opponent nor conceals the user and it requires a sword. When I see multiple waving arms, I can say its pointless to create real waving arms in a battle. It must be a Genjutsu used as a distraction to create an opening to attack me. I can get out of it by using low ranked Tai. But I think in a real battle I'd get out of it using surge instead as it will not only dispel the Gen but also help me defend against the opponent who will most possibly be very close to me about to make a final blow. I've heard of your CFS and its a cool one. Genjutsu CFS are actually cool as you have to watch your opponent's body movements all the times during the battle. Its not like Sharingan where you can avoid falling in their Gen by avoiding their gaze. I'd rather not fight someone like that at a close range.

 

[McRazor]

I think this tech falls in the "Other" type of Genjutsus as it neither paralyses nor tricks the opponent nor conceals the user and it requires a sword. When I see multiple waving arms, I can say its pointless to create real waving arms in a battle. It must be a Genjutsu used as a distraction to create an opening to attack me. I can get out of it by using low ranked Tai. But I think in a real battle I'd get out of it using surge instead as it will not only dispel the Gen but also help me defend against the opponent who will most possibly be very close to me about to make a final blow. I've heard of your CFS and its a cool one. Genjutsu CFS are actually cool as you have to watch your opponent's body movements all the times during the battle. Its not like Sharingan where you can avoid falling in their Gen by avoiding their gaze. I'd rather not fight someone like that at a close range.

Are you sure? Doesn't it make the opponent see or believe something that isn't real and isn't there? I think it's the definition of trickery genjutsu.

Trickery are techniques that make your opponent see or believe something that isn't real and isn't there. Simply as that. They're mostly distractions and used for confusion. For example, changing the battlefield or making a fireball look like a water ball, or stuff like that.

Yeah, but you don't argue its purpose when a genjutsu is used against you. The reason and usefulness is not for you to determine. What you have to do is reason why it's an illusion and not reality. Saying that its pointless to create real waving arms in a battle doesn't make sense. Why is it pointless? Couldn't additional arms actually help you by allowing you to control more swords, etc? For this technique, you would need a better reasoning. Also, the shadows, sounds, etc are kinda obvious. Can you come up with something else?

 

[Sherlock.]

Are you sure? Doesn't it make the opponent see or believe something that isn't real and isn't there? I think it's the definition of trickery genjutsu.



Yeah, but you don't argue its purpose when a genjutsu is used against you. The reason and usefulness is not for you to determine. What you have to do is reason why it's an illusion and not reality. Saying that its pointless to create real waving arms in a battle doesn't make sense. Why is it pointless? Couldn't additional arms actually help you by allowing you to control more swords, etc? For this technique, you would need a better reasoning. Also, the shadows, sounds, etc are kinda obvious. Can you come up with something else?

Ah sry about that. I should have read about trickery once again when I had a doubt. But I simply went ahead with putting it in the "Other" category. I can only think of the obvious ones atm i.e. the shadow and sound one.

 

[McRazor]

Ah sry about that. I should have read about trickery once again when I had a doubt. But I simply went ahead with putting it in the "Other" category. I can only think of the obvious ones atm i.e. the shadow and sound one.

Alright. I can't blame you for this because I didn't tell you to check the jutsu outside of NB, but if you had a bit more curiosity you might've come up with something. Basically, if you check the narutowiki, you would see that this is actually a really sketchy illusion. The arms aren't attached to the user and they're like simply levitating in the air which is very odd and the main way of realizing that it's an illusion.

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[Sherlock.]

Alright Understood Sensei.
I did see the video at Naruto jutsu spot >.> Couldn't word it properly and said it's pointless to create hands xD

 

[McRazor]

Alright Understood Sensei.
I did see the video at Naruto jutsu spot >.> Couldn't word it properly and said it's pointless to create hands xD

Sorry for the late reply. I'd like to notify you that I'm going to be a bit absent until further notice so I won't be able to reply to your training thread. I should be back to training soon.

 

[Sherlock.]

NP Sensei ^^

 

[McRazor]

NP Sensei ^^

Alright, sorry for the inactivity, however I'm still not fully back as work is really taking its toll on me and uni is starting soon, again.

( Genjutsu: Ingemame Ketsugō Sakkaku ) - Illusion Technique String Bean Binding Illusion
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage points: N/A
Description: Similar to Illusion Technique: Tree Binding Death, the user will do the Dog → Hare → Snake → Ram hand seals and trigger an illusion where the user first disappears, while the target sees several bean vines growing from the ground around and beneath him. These vines bind the target body, lifting them into the air. Then a bean pod rises from the ground to reveal the user, ready to strike. In reality, the opponent is immobilized by the illusion, allowing the user to strike.

Just an advanced version that paralyzes your opponent in place while he experiences the illusion. Obviously, if you're not a plant user the opponent will try to use that bullshit excuse to rationalize it as a genjutsu while in reality he has no idea whether you really are or are not a plant/wood user and whether even the vines are a specific element. What I'm saying is that people always use stupid excuses for genjutsu and they always get through because, why argue about such a stupid thing? So, what other ways are there to realize it's a genjutsu, and how do you free yourself if you're completely paralyzed?

 

[McRazor]

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