[Suiton] Zlex

[McRazor]

"I thought it wasn't needed." :vincent:

"I hold the piece of chakra paper in between both of my palms and begin to concentrate and search deep for my water chakra. I start to think about water, crashing waves, flowing rivers and babbling brooks, about all I can think of water. This helped as I started to feel my water chakra flowing inside of me. Then I start channeling my water chakra into both of my hands and most importantly into the paper. To help me concentrate more, I imagine as if I put my hands in a place filled with water, I imagine the rushing waves of it and the noise they make. In the meanwhile, i start feeling something in my hands, as if a a water balloon exploded in my palms. When i open my palms, i can see the paper was wet, and thought I had accomplished the task given by my Sensei."

Alright, that's better but still not top notch. Before you ever start reaching for your water chakra and focusing on its properties you need regular chakra. To create regular chakra you need to mold your physical and spiritual energies first. Once you do this, you start nature transforming that chakra so that you get the water chakra and only then, with the help of handseals you shape manipulate the water chakra into a technique. Here is an example.

I start slowing down my breathing, clearing my mind and focusing on the next technique I'm about to perform. I start stirring up my spiritual and physical energies through my chakra circulatory system and I have them flow steadily, mixing together and forming the very life for of every ninja. Once I gathered enough of my chakra I start reaching deep down into my memories and start imagining the water. First I imagine rain drops falling onto my skin and how wet and soft it is. Then I imagine the winds blowing the water at my face in the form of mist and how its relaxing and peaceful. Suddenly the peace is destroyed by heavy and strong water currents and heavy rain storms that represent the real power of water. As I bury myself deep into my thoughts, I start turning my regular chakra into water chakra using nature transformation right in my solar plexus, the main center, and I have it grow and accumulate. Through the process I perform several handseals as a hoax to cut down on the molding time and to mold more chakra for a stronger technique. Upon gathering the necessary amount of water chakra, I forcefully push the chakra from my plexus towards my mouth and as I release it I shape manipulate it into a half-human sized water bullet that quickly races towards the nearby tree and cuts it loose at the point of collision.

 

[Jin]

Alright, that's better but still not top notch. Before you ever start reaching for your water chakra and focusing on its properties you need regular chakra. To create regular chakra you need to mold your physical and spiritual energies first. Once you do this, you start nature transforming that chakra so that you get the water chakra and only then, with the help of handseals you shape manipulate the water chakra into a technique. Here is an example.

Understood Sensei. Sorry for not bringing that up :'(

 

[McRazor]

Understood Sensei. Sorry for not bringing that up :'(

It's alright, don't take it too hard on yourself. Just make sure you remember it for the future. Now, do the same thing you did previously, except try to include the few key words that I used in my description.

 

[Jin]

It's alright, don't take it too hard on yourself. Just make sure you remember it for the future. Now, do the same thing you did previously, except try to include the few key words that I used in my description.

Sure thing

"Holding the chakra paper between my palms, I start to concentrate. I start by molding my spiritual and physical energy.By molding both spiritual and physical energies, I feel my chakra rushing in my body(Regular chakra). Once I have gathered enough chakra, I dig deep down in my memories and imagine all the things I can think of water. I start imaging the quiet and peaceful water, then changing the scene to a less peaceful one, where strong winds create big waves of water. Going deeper into my thoughts, I start turning my chakra to water chakra. After doing so, I start focusing my chakra on my hands and then on the paper. Suddenly I felt a wet sensation in my hand, and while opening my palms, I saw that the paper got wet."

 

[McRazor]

Sure thing

"Holding the chakra paper between my palms, I start to concentrate. I start by molding my spiritual and physical energy.By molding both spiritual and physical energies, I feel my chakra rushing in my body(Regular chakra). Once I have gathered enough chakra, I dig deep down in my memories and imagine all the things I can think of water. I start imaging the quiet and peaceful water, then changing the scene to a less peaceful one, where strong winds create big waves of water. Going deeper into my thoughts, I start turning my chakra to water chakra. After doing so, I start focusing my chakra on my hands and then on the paper. Suddenly I felt a wet sensation in my hand, and while opening my palms, I saw that the paper got wet."

Way better! Congratulations, you have made the paper wet! xD

Sooo, now we finally come to the techniques!! Using the same principle you need to spit a small water bullet at the nearby tree.

 

[Jin]

Hmmm, so wanted to know if I had to do the whole process from the beginning, I mean from where I start to mold both spiritual and physical energy ?

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Firstly I start by gathering a fair amount of chakra. After that I start molding most of my chakra in preparation for the jutsu. I then concentrate hard, I go deep into my thoughts, thinking nothing else but water.Then I start turning my normal chakra into water chakra using nature transformation. After getting the necessary amount of water chakra, I then channel it from my stomach to my mouth, and while I'm about to release it, I use shape manipulation to turn it into a small bullet, which I spit towards the direction of a nearby tree.

 

[McRazor]

Hmmm, so wanted to know if I had to do the whole process from the beginning, I mean from where I start to mold both spiritual and physical energy ?

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Firstly I start by gathering a fair amount of chakra. After that I start molding most of my chakra in preparation for the jutsu. I then concentrate hard, I go deep into my thoughts, thinking nothing else but water.Then I start turning my normal chakra into water chakra using nature transformation. After getting the necessary amount of water chakra, I then channel it from my stomach to my mouth, and while I'm about to release it, I use shape manipulation to turn it into a small bullet, which I spit towards the direction of a nearby tree.

Yes, that's very good. Now, remember this?

I'll try to explain the core of each jutsu the very best I can and I will sometimes add some possible usages and anything I find interesting about the jutsu and in return I would like you to give me your opinion on the jutsu, how you would use it, how you would defend if it was used against you and so on. In essence, I want this training to be like a discussion instead of me telling you what to do and what not to.

This will be the "template" for the training. You perform the jutsu and do the rest while I try to explain the jutsu the best I can. This is the jutsu you just performed.

(Suiton No Jutsu) - Water technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Damage Points:20
Description: Creates small waves of water,small blasts, and small shields of water.
Note: Doesn't require a water source but can be used to manipulate existing water.

The most basic water technique. It allows you to create various objects using your own chakra. They're mostly created from your own body, i.e. hands but you can also manipulate them from an already existing water source. It's an interesting technique because it can be used for all types and it is mid range thus it can be very helpful. However, due to it being so weak you will hardly have the chance to use it. Imagine that I release a small wave of water at you, how would you defend against it?

 

[Jin]

Yes, that's very good. Now, remember this?



This will be the "template" for the training. You perform the jutsu and do the rest while I try to explain the jutsu the best I can. This is the jutsu you just performed.

(Suiton No Jutsu) - Water technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Damage Points:20
Description: Creates small waves of water,small blasts, and small shields of water.
Note: Doesn't require a water source but can be used to manipulate existing water.

The most basic water technique. It allows you to create various objects using your own chakra. They're mostly created from your own body, i.e. hands but you can also manipulate them from an already existing water source. It's an interesting technique because it can be used for all types and it is mid range thus it can be very helpful. However, due to it being so weak you will hardly have the chance to use it. Imagine that I release a small wave of water at you, how would you defend against it?

If you mean by using elemental attacks/defenses, I would probably defend myself using an Earth Jutsu, since water is weak against earth. I would create a small shield-wall made of earth.

Spoiler

(Doton No Jutsu) - Earth Release Technique
Rank: D
Type: Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Descripton: Creates small pillars of earth, small tools, and small shields of earth

Another way I guess is by staying long range, I mean since the attack is short-mid ranged it would work, but in a real battle I guess you wouldn't know when the enemy would attack you with this jutsu. Another way would be by countering with the same rank Wind or Lightning Jutsus. It isn't recommended using a Fire Jutsu since fire is weak against water, and it would take a C-rank fire to stop a D-rank water technique.

 

[McRazor]

If you mean by using elemental attacks/defenses, I would probably defend myself using an Earth Jutsu, since water is weak against earth. I would create a small shield-wall made of earth.

Spoiler

(Doton No Jutsu) - Earth Release Technique
Rank: D
Type: Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Descripton: Creates small pillars of earth, small tools, and small shields of earth

Another way I guess is by staying long range, I mean since the attack is short-mid ranged it would work, but in a real battle I guess you wouldn't know when the enemy would attack you with this jutsu. Another way would be by countering with the same rank Wind or Lightning Jutsus. It isn't recommended using a Fire Jutsu since fire is weak against water, and it would take a C-rank fire to stop a D-rank water technique.

Using the earth technique would work. However, staying at long range is not defending against it but avoiding it. That's obvious against mid range techniques so no need to mention that. Still, if the situation calls for it, why not use a fire jutsu. True, you need a stronger technique but if you can create steam to hide your intentions then why not? And although lightning is pretty much neutral to water you can't really expect a lightning jutsu to stop water? What is it going to do? Electrocute it and then what? It's an energy that is created by the quick rubbing of your chakra and it doesn't have enough mass or solidity to stop water techniques. Also, since water isn't a solid either, it can't be torn apart by the lightning jutsu.

 

[Jin]

Using the earth technique would work. However, staying at long range is not defending against it but avoiding it. That's obvious against mid range techniques so no need to mention that. Still, if the situation calls for it, why not use a fire jutsu. True, you need a stronger technique but if you can create steam to hide your intentions then why not? And although lightning is pretty much neutral to water you can't really expect a lightning jutsu to stop water? What is it going to do? Electrocute it and then what? It's an energy that is created by the quick rubbing of your chakra and it doesn't have enough mass or solidity to stop water techniques. Also, since water isn't a solid either, it can't be torn apart by the lightning jutsu.

Yeah you're right, but what if there's a S-rank water attack, I guess you can't do anything with fire right ?
As for the lightning, yeah i knew that, but I thought that in the Ninja World, Electricity would somehow would be able to stop water, my bad ...
Also thanks for clearing it up for me

 

[McRazor]

Yeah you're right, but what if there's a S-rank water attack, I guess you can't do anything with fire right ?
As for the lightning, yeah i knew that, but I thought that in the Ninja World, Electricity would somehow would be able to stop water, my bad ...
Also thanks for clearing it up for me

You can use an F rank if you have any at your disposal, but other than that, there's not much you can do on your own. Though, if you had a clone or partner you could definitely make a wind/fire or fire/earth combination to easily deal with the water.

 

[Jin]

You can use an F rank if you have any at your disposal, but other than that, there's not much you can do on your own. Though, if you had a clone or partner you could definitely make a wind/fire or fire/earth combination to easily deal with the water.

I get it now, thanks
We can go on.

 

[McRazor]

I get it now, thanks
We can go on.

(Kirigakure No Jutsu) - Hidding in Mist Jutsu
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Long
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: This displacement technique creates a thick mist to spring forth by lifting up some water from either a pre-existing source or expelled from their mouth, then goes in and out of sight at will from within the pearly-white realm. The mist's thickness is controlled by the amount of chakra kneaded into it. It can't fool the Byakugan, but, due to the mist being created with the user's chakra, any Sharingan and Rinnegan-user will see the mist coloured by their opponent's chakra, which will effectively hide the user from the dōjutsu.
Note: Can be created through releasing from mouth or manipulating a nearby water source.

I'm sure you already saw this jutsu. It's a very nice jutsu and I love using it, however you have to be cautious. To perform the technique you release the mist from your mouth or you can once again perform it from a water source. The mist is thick enough to block both your and your opponents vision so you have to be careful and have another sense to rely on. It's very useful against sharingan and rinnegan because they can't distinguish your chakra but once again, if you can't see them you gain nothing from it. It's very good for setting up large scale attacks as well as swift assassinations.

 

[Jin]

While getting ready to perform my next jutsu. i begin gathering chakra in my mouth, I continue gathering chakra before I start changing my raw chakra into Suiton chakra, and once my Suiton chakra is moulded properly, I release it through my mouth in the form of a thick mist that covers the battle field by performing the Suiton jutsu (Kirigakure No Jutsu) - Hidding in Mist Jutsu.

 

[McRazor]

While getting ready to perform my next jutsu. i begin gathering chakra in my mouth, I continue gathering chakra before I start changing my raw chakra into Suiton chakra, and once my Suiton chakra is moulded properly, I release it through my mouth in the form of a thick mist that covers the battle field by performing the Suiton jutsu (Kirigakure No Jutsu) - Hidding in Mist Jutsu.

And the rest? Advantages, disadvantages, how you would defend against it?

 

[Jin]

And the rest? Advantages, disadvantages, how you would defend against it?

Sorry, totally forgot about your template :'(

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• Advantages:
  • 1:Sharingan and Rinnegan can not see through it.
  • 2:Great for suprise attacks or assassinations.
  
  
• Disadvantages:
  • 1:Wont work against a Byakugan user.
  • 2:Mist would be less dense if less chakra is inserted.

Hmmm, so there aren't much ways to defend yourself against this technique I guess, but except the Byakugan(which can see through the mist), I'd say that using a wind jutsu to blow up the mist would word. Also being a sensory type, locating your enemy and attack/defend when you do that.

 

[McRazor]

Sorry, totally forgot about your template :'(

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• Advantages:
  • 1:Sharingan and Rinnegan can not see through it.
  • 2:Great for suprise attacks or assassinations.
  
  
• Disadvantages:
  • 1:Wont work against a Byakugan user.
  • 2:Mist would be less dense if less chakra is inserted.

Hmmm, so there aren't much ways to defend yourself against this technique I guess, but except the Byakugan(which can see through the mist), I'd say that using a wind jutsu to blow up the mist would word. Also being a sensory type, locating your enemy and attack/defend when you do that.

That's good although you don't necessarily need the list. You can simply write it in sentences. But I'll let you do as you please.

Yes, you've got everything right. Mist is your best bet in this case, but I can see fire working just as well. A very powerful fire jutsu that has a large scale should be able to evaporate the mist easily.

 

[Jin]

Ok got it Thanks for the info.
Good to go

 

[McRazor]

Sorry for the late reply. I'd like to notify you that I'm going to be a bit absent until further notice so I won't be able to reply to your training thread. I should be back to training soon.

 

[Jin]

Sorry for the late reply. I'd like to notify you that I'm going to be a bit absent until further notice so I won't be able to reply to your training thread. I should be back to training soon.

Not a problem, have a nice time