Poll: Biggest asspull in the the manga?

Was this the biggest asspull in the manga?


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A large amount of chakra erupting doesn't justify how Kakashi instantly became able to stabilize it.



Due to the fact that Madara was Ashura's host and was naturally an Uchiha with an immense amount of very powerful chakra, it's same to assume that he had better and greater access to Mokuton techniques than them. Rinnegan is also independent of Mokuton as Nagato could aptly use the eyes with Mokuton, and Yamato and Danzo got access to Mokuton without Rinnegan.
he had Obito's help.. maybe his susano'o will collapse in the next chapter lol or maybe he will..
maybe he copied Sasuke's stabilization
 

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its not really a stretch.. Sasuke shouted the name of rock lee's jutsu "dancing leaf shadow" before rock lee completely performed the jutsu on Sasuke. In this manga, learning something you've seen over & over makes sense if you have the tools to use it.



I said they are similar >.>

Yea I remember Lee's face when he saw that. Even Naruto was able to copy it next. Kakashi was notorious for it either way. The thing which unsettled many because it was Sasuke's ability this time around. Most reaction from fans is on his half. xP
 
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No, not at all it makes complete sense, it's just that fanboys hate logic , biggest asspull is SO6P powers, I mean naruto was always exciting and we always was like oh name is stronger than name , name will become stronger than name but then these power came and there ia nothing to talk about, I justa think it's not fair for other characters, ok understand why naruto should get power up but why sasuke tho , if kishi going to give a power to 1 character he should give it for all of them too, the best move for kishi now is to take away their powers and let them somehow kill her not seal her(but that just ma opinion, I know fanboys are coming with that "oh you just mad cause they > your fav " ***** please ma fav is might gai XD)
Because Sasuke is Naruto's rival, and a fellow main character
 

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Mah ***** Kishimoto went full retard with this chapter. But Naruto manga never cease to surprise me. Asspull no jutsu is Kishimoto's favorite jutsu XD
 

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I may as well say this: The afterlife in Naruto isn't thoroughly defined enough for readers to readily accept that Mangekyo techniques can be used within that plane and that some are capable of allowing the user to re-insert themselves into reality. The location Kakashi met his father when he died entirely conflicts in terms of appearance to the location where Obito and Rin were standing in the current chapter. Are they different? we do not know...

If I recall as well, Kakashi had Kamui at that point but had no knowledge that it could have been an alternate route back to reality----Obito, contrarily was instantly cognizant of such things. All of the Edo-Tensei showcased throughout this arc bear absolutely no remembrance of seeing one another in the 'after-life'; yet Obito suddenly is with Rin the moment he dies. The entire concept is saturated with inconsistencies.

Kakashi copying Mangekyo techniques such as Susano'o is a ridiculous notion as each Susano'o is fixated with it's respective Sharingan. Since Kakashi's ability to copy ability stems from the Sharingan itself----knitting that to the fact that all Sharingan grant this ability to certain limits even Kakashi was once subject too; when was it that the Mangekyo Sharingan can copy other Mangekyo Jutsu and why is it that no other Mangekyo user was aware of this?

The protruding flaw is this: There are certain principle Jutsu the Sharingan bestows upon the user that they are naturally aware of; the copy function falls within this category. You cannot say that 'Only Obito's Sharingan can perform this special copy ability' because then then means that his Mangekyo is capable of perfectly replication and producing every Mangekyo ability to have ever been in existence. However, we know that the only Doujutsu that should be capable of such a feat is that which is a forefather to all the Sharingan collectively: The Jubi's Doujutsu.
 
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everyone seems to forget that susano of any form is a kekkei genkai technique and kakashi said he cant copy bloodline techniques. sohow he pulled of on a first try is total bs
Read the thread before mindlessly charging in. This point has already been accounted for and disproven as far as I'm concerned.
 

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The Madara - with no eyes - Susanoo was theorized to be manifested by his chakra. It was backed by the Databook and Manga, where Sasuke going blind and still using Sasunoo.

Obito coming back was explained by Kishi. "Chakra connects both worlds" However, that is still an asspull to me.
You're lying. Sasuke's susano'o deactivated as soon as he went blind and he started screaming that he was blind. There was NEVER any blind Sasuke susano'o, he powered it up and got full possession, than as soon as he started screaming that he's blind te susano'o went away.
 

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Can't comprehend that a non-Uchiha "copied" a technique that can't be copied, then instantly stabilized it while two actual Uchihas took a long time to be able to stabilize said technique?
The sharingan has only ever copied body movements and handsigns(for jutsu). So copying Susanoo(which requires none of those things) shouldn't be possible. I don't actually think Kakashi literally "copied" Sasuke's PS, but he actually unlocked it himself.(thanks to Obito's power). Still him using PS immediately is far fetched.
 
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Can't comprehend that a non-Uchiha "copied" a technique that can't be copied, then instantly stabilized it while two actual Uchihas took a long time to be able to stabilize said technique?
I seriously don't get you guys. You guys complain on 1 thing for hours, then in a couple of chapters later, your question been answered. Just be patient, that's the one thing you guys can't do.
 

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There's only maim character and side characters so can you tell me what's "fellow main character" and please give examples of other mangas "fellow main characters"
The main characters in Naruto are Naruto himself,Sasuke,Sakura,and Kakashi.

As for examples of mangas with fellow main characters:

FMA:Brotherhood
Akame Ga Kiru
Berserk
Neon Genesis Evangelion
DBZ
One Piece
 
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It's not asspull, people just can't comprehend.
It is asspull, most other asspulls can be comprehended as well. Such as Izanami (kishi did a great job of explaining it). Kakashi's PS is asspull because it came out of nowhere, purely ridiculous and nonsensical move by kishi. He has made a complete joke out of the manga
 
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I seriously don't get you guys. You guys complain on 1 thing for hours, then in a couple of chapters later, your question been answered. Just be patient, that's the one thing you guys can't do.
Please.......Kishi still hasn't explained how Madara could use Susanoo without eyes and Kamui despite getting Kakashi's eye in a split second and being a Juubi Jin.What makes you think he'll bother explaining stuff now?
 
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I may as well say this: The afterlife in Naruto isn't thoroughly defined enough for readers to readily accept that Mangekyo techniques can be used within that plane and that some are capable of allowing the user to re-insert themselves into reality. The location Kakashi met his father when he died entirely conflicts in terms of appearance to the location where Obito and Rin were standing in the current chapter. Are they different? we do not know...

If I recall as well, Kakashi had Kamui at that point but had no knowledge that it could have been an alternate route back to reality----Obito, contrarily was instantly cognizant of such things. All of the Edo-Tensei showcased throughout this arc bear absolutely no remembrance of seeing one another in the 'after-life'; yet Obito suddenly is with Rin the moment he dies. The entire concept is saturated with inconsistencies.

Kakashi copying Mangekyo techniques such as Susano'o is a ridiculous notion as each Susano'o is fixated with it's respective Sharingan. Since Kakashi's ability to copy ability stems from the Sharingan itself----knitting that to the fact that all Sharingan grant this ability to certain limits even Kakashi was once subject too; when was it that the Mangekyo Sharingan can copy other Mangekyo Jutsu and why is it that no other Mangekyo user was aware of this?

The protruding flaw is this: There are certain principle Jutsu the Sharingan bestows upon the user that they are naturally aware of; the copy function falls within this category. You cannot say that 'Only Obito's Sharingan can perform this special copy ability' because then then means that his Mangekyo is capable of perfectly replication and producing every Mangekyo ability to have ever been in existence. However, we know that the only Doujutsu that should be capable of such a feat is that which is a forefather to all the Sharingan collectively: The Jubi's Doujutsu.
I think the definition can be found in Budhhist tradition. There is no heaven of hell like in western philosophy in it. When one becomes Bodhisattva they attain Nirvana. Then there are different Bodhistava not that high enough. He also transmigrates and all that. I have forgotten the details at the moment and would need a brush up.

But it matches with Hashirama ( Senju is a thousand hand Bodhistava/Buddha, Indra was one but of lower cadre ) and so on. The Senju symbol is pretty much Vjra symbol. The bell shape naruto had on his stomach is another mark of him. If you want to explore it you might want to check that out.
 
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