EDIT : Courtesy of -Naruto Uzumaki-, I have been alerted to another point.
Even IF there is no actual water, Kirabi thinks there is water and hence feels like he has been electrocuted, collapsing in a twitching heap.
Wrath. had this to say, however
Wrath. said:
Ok, then quote my message and post it there.
My opinion, Ali didn't win due to bad usage of jutsus U_U
First of all, ali didnt respect the time frame rule, even if it's not too important in this case, but the fact is that he didnt respect it.
AS ur using ur lighting jutsu I use
and then he proceeded with his move.
Second point, Ali's second jutsu, it can be understood in 2 ways since the jutsu kinda contradicts itself
User then adds water chakra to simulate wet sensation making the opponent immensely wet.[/QUOTE]
User adds water chakra to
simulate
a wet sensation. How does that make the opponent immensely wet if the user only simulates that sensation? he can be wet on the gengutsu, but not in reality.
Also, about Kirabi bitting his hand, we can't be sure about that, yeah, it's and S-ranked Gengutsu but the pain can
awake the user from the opponent's chakra flow so.. it doesnt mind if the gengutsu is B-rank or S-rank, the way to get out is always teh same, only the psychologic effects on the opponent can be increased, but the way of getting out is always the same, as we all know. If he maneges to bite his hand and inflict pain on himself, he can release himself from the gengutsu, being B-rank or S-rank, altough i don't agree with that because it's a cheap way of getting out of a strong jutsu, but that's what is stated on Naruto Universe.
Third Point, to use loss of memory technique you need to play a song on your occarina which i believe it's not stated that ali has one on his bio (and almost no one except Roku and a few other ppl who know Music Arts possess it) and it also says one categorie, yeah, jutsus can be one of multiple categorie but i think you must state Katon or Doton jutsus for example. Also, that jutsu is extremely overpowered and atm i can't think of a way to avoid it. And 2 times per match and 3 turns is too much. And it was used by a filler character i think -.-
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4th, and last point
, to use Water Prison you need to keep your arm inside the water sphere or you need to keep touching Kirabi, he has his lightning armor activated so if Kirabi is shocked, Ali is too so on teh moment he uses the jutsu he has to stop it or he will pass out/get uncounscios/go numb.
well, it looks the 4th point wasnt the last one xd
5th. The fact that gats is a sensei and that he used that memory jutsu that way, doesnt mean his right. The fact that we are senseis doesnt mean we dont make mistakes while fighting.
6th
Ali said:
The manga in which kurenai escaped itachi's tree binding jutsu was B ranked
Now quoting from Rag

so?
That doesnt mean anything, the fact that he used pain to get out of a B-rank jutsu doesnt mean she ant do the same to an A-rank jutsu O___O so that argument is invalid
7th
@Emp: The fact that he used water chakra on the gengutsu doesnt mean that it needs to be water exactly, he could have used that to simulate teh wetness xD. But yeah, if he is trapped on a gengutsu he will think he is wet, plus, the lighting armor, it's supposed for him to thing he got shocked, at least on the gengutsu he is. But not in reality
And yeah, i claim the gengutsu created by Goro is kinda confusing

at least as we can see due to multiple interpretations, but most jutsu's description are ****ed
@Emp
• Ignore my customs. What about this ?
Sword of Water - Narutopedia, the Naruto Wiki
Does it say Suiton ? So Kishi is wrong, and it isn't a water technique ?
If you look down there, it says it's water release O___________O
EDIT BY EMPEROR : My point was that it doesn't say so in the title o________________o
I didnt read all that convo but if someone uses my jutsus without permission i'll get Jack to get back to NB and assrape you the harderst way you had ever dreamed, so you will know what is a real rape O__O
In resume:
The battles is ****ed up, re-do all of your moves and ali, you need to know how to use jutsus better. None of you losed and won.[/QUOTE]
Again, I would like people to read -Naruto Uzumaki-'s post and Wrath.s post before they give their answer.