Fire Sage Ali V. Future Raiton Sage Kirabi.

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Its ok Some people are just Slower than Others
like u, mr. i claw my way out of a tar pit.

dont even try to side with emperor against me, i have enough dirt on you to the point where it isnt even funny.

not to mention i still havent forgiven u for that n-word comment u made so u can can stfu and gtfo.
 

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don't believe goro, wtf if i quote that message it will say ali not goro.

and even still if goro consents to u using his jutsu w/out having properly learned it than that makes him look bad as the guy who is basically over the rp section. as he is breaking the rule and nullifying the need for sensei.

so i will say it again in the most simple way possible

no thread = no valid usage = void in this battle
Ahem.
My dear fellow, Ali has it in his customs list twice, allowed by Goro K.

And as for you, if you don't stop degrading people to your level of using customs without permission, I will have to infract you for being rude.

Furthermore, your placing things in bold type isn't anything, since you have no power to back it up with O_O
On the other hand, I can close this thread, and will ask the other mods to deliver judgment, if I see one more argument from you about this. ~_~
 

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~ JUDGMENT WILL BE DELIVERED BY THE RP MODERATORS ~

No one may use a bio from this battle before this issue is cleared up.
Using it will result in an infraction.

I will ask Kaito, Roku, Caliburn ( for HBA, since he is out on vacation ) and Rei-chan to post their views.

Five of us. Five votes. Three is the majority.

" Kirabi Lost" For or against ?

Me: For.

Caliburn: ( for proof, see my VMs ) : For.
 
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EDIT : Courtesy of -Naruto Uzumaki-, I have been alerted to another point.

Even IF there is no actual water, Kirabi thinks there is water and hence feels like he has been electrocuted, collapsing in a twitching heap.


Wrath. had this to say, however

Wrath. said:
Ok, then quote my message and post it there.

My opinion, Ali didn't win due to bad usage of jutsus U_U

First of all, ali didnt respect the time frame rule, even if it's not too important in this case, but the fact is that he didnt respect it.

AS ur using ur lighting jutsu I use
and then he proceeded with his move.

Second point, Ali's second jutsu, it can be understood in 2 ways since the jutsu kinda contradicts itself
User then adds water chakra to simulate wet sensation making the opponent immensely wet.[/QUOTE]
User adds water chakra to simulate
a wet sensation. How does that make the opponent immensely wet if the user only simulates that sensation? he can be wet on the gengutsu, but not in reality.
Also, about Kirabi bitting his hand, we can't be sure about that, yeah, it's and S-ranked Gengutsu but the pain can awake the user from the opponent's chakra flow so.. it doesnt mind if the gengutsu is B-rank or S-rank, the way to get out is always teh same, only the psychologic effects on the opponent can be increased, but the way of getting out is always the same, as we all know. If he maneges to bite his hand and inflict pain on himself, he can release himself from the gengutsu, being B-rank or S-rank, altough i don't agree with that because it's a cheap way of getting out of a strong jutsu, but that's what is stated on Naruto Universe.

Third Point, to use loss of memory technique you need to play a song on your occarina which i believe it's not stated that ali has one on his bio (and almost no one except Roku and a few other ppl who know Music Arts possess it) and it also says one categorie, yeah, jutsus can be one of multiple categorie but i think you must state Katon or Doton jutsus for example. Also, that jutsu is extremely overpowered and atm i can't think of a way to avoid it. And 2 times per match and 3 turns is too much. And it was used by a filler character i think -.-


4th, and last point
, to use Water Prison you need to keep your arm inside the water sphere or you need to keep touching Kirabi, he has his lightning armor activated so if Kirabi is shocked, Ali is too so on teh moment he uses the jutsu he has to stop it or he will pass out/get uncounscios/go numb.

well, it looks the 4th point wasnt the last one xd

5th. The fact that gats is a sensei and that he used that memory jutsu that way, doesnt mean his right. The fact that we are senseis doesnt mean we dont make mistakes while fighting.

6th
Ali said:
The manga in which kurenai escaped itachi's tree binding jutsu was B ranked
Now quoting from Rag
That doesnt mean anything, the fact that he used pain to get out of a B-rank jutsu doesnt mean she ant do the same to an A-rank jutsu O___O so that argument is invalid

7th

@Emp: The fact that he used water chakra on the gengutsu doesnt mean that it needs to be water exactly, he could have used that to simulate teh wetness xD. But yeah, if he is trapped on a gengutsu he will think he is wet, plus, the lighting armor, it's supposed for him to thing he got shocked, at least on the gengutsu he is. But not in reality

And yeah, i claim the gengutsu created by Goro is kinda confusing :p at least as we can see due to multiple interpretations, but most jutsu's description are ****ed

@Emp
• Ignore my customs. What about this ?
Sword of Water - Narutopedia, the Naruto Wiki
Does it say Suiton ? So Kishi is wrong, and it isn't a water technique ?
If you look down there, it says it's water release O___________O

EDIT BY EMPEROR : My point was that it doesn't say so in the title o________________o

I didnt read all that convo but if someone uses my jutsus without permission i'll get Jack to get back to NB and assrape you the harderst way you had ever dreamed, so you will know what is a real rape O__O





In resume:

The battles is ****ed up, re-do all of your moves and ali, you need to know how to use jutsus better. None of you losed and won.[/QUOTE]



Again, I would like people to read -Naruto Uzumaki-'s post and Wrath.s post before they give their answer.
 
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FINAL EDIT :

This is RokuNR's opinion

RokuNR said:
That battle was f*cked up! No kidding at all o_o
I haven't seen so much chaos since Tobi's cookie factory exploded!

But, despite how many mistake both of them made (Kirabi and Ali), Ali won the benefit of the doubt because of his genjutsu and water usage. And Kirabi fried himself. And I must agree with Rag because, as a person who specializes in genjutsu-type moves, some genjutsus are able to produce physical effects as well. Anyone who's fought a skilled genjutsu user knows that. However, I am against that Loss of Memory technique being used by people who have not learned it adequetly and do not have an ocarina in their bio. Hell, I didn't even know such a technique existed. It is majorly OP and apparently unavoidable. It's like Music Arts on super-steroids. Making you forget every jutsu you know? Wtf? I mean, if the person has an ocarina, it can be avoided by various methods (I know this...trust me), but if one can just use it like that, then it's way too unfair. I say that Loss of Memory technique CANNOT be used unless the person has the bio of the character that used it and they MUST use an Ocarina.

Ali still won. I stand by my decision. Also, IMO, the time frame rule is very iffy and people often twist their way through it to fit their will =/ It should be discussed along with that technique. I am for Kirabi's loss.

And Goro K, creator of the Genjutsu says it utilises real water. Since he is the creator, his opinion on it is final.

Henceforth, the battle has been resolved both with and without mod judgment :


Kirabi loses. The Raikage bio is dead, and cannot be used anymore.
Bio Lockdown on Ali Uchiha is over.
 
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