Mangekyo techs copiable & Susano'o this last chapter

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I dont see any proof of it being a combination of both . If Only Sasuke had the same etherals weapon as Itachi's susanoo had at least, it could back up your point .

LOL look at sasukes susanoo finalized when he fought kakashi then look at it when he get's ems. It looks like itachi's. How the can sasuke also have spiritual weapons when they are given to the person whose spirit possess it?
 

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Yeah..... No.

Kakashi is using Perfect Susanoo by combining his Chakra with Obito's Chakra, which helps in using PS.
 

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LOL look at sasukes susanoo finalized when he fought kakashi then look at it when he get's ems. It looks like itachi's. How the can sasuke also have spiritual weapons when they are given to the person whose spirit possess it?

So your only argument is Sasuke's was looking like Itachi's ? Well, here , Kakashi's is looking identical to Sasuke's my friend. Seems like its a combination of both ;)
 

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Kakashi got hit by itachi's Tsukuyomi and has been watching sasuke's enton all this time.
Kakashi has Itachi level Tsukuyomi and sasuke level enton.

#whatislogic
 

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So your only argument is Sasuke's was looking like Itachi's ? Well, here , Kakashi's looking identical to Sasuke's my friend. Seems like its a combination of both ;)

If he is using itachi's eyes which changes his susanoo appearance than obviously.......never mind logic beats you. Go ahead AND go about the most irrational explanation to explain Obito's PS. Guess it is nice since obito's eyes can copy any technique
 

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Obito's eyes copy ALL, yep the most illogical explanation and that's the one we go with.
 

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If he is using itachi's eyes which changes his susanoo appearance than obviously.......never mind logic beats you. Go ahead AND go about the most irrational explanation to explain Obito's PS. Guess it is nice since obito's eyes can copy any technique

You're just too mad man , calm down please . Today's chapter isnt my fault and I prefer Obito to kakashi anyway so please stop implying im in denial , you're the one wanting to defy logic here . " Obito has susanoo because he gave it to Kakashi " is just dumb and irrational and on the same level as people saying Hagoromo or even Kaguya could use Susano'o as Sasuke could use PS after their meeting and kaguya being the progenitor of all chakra, and then all KKGs lmao . No smartie , our opinions differ here and this isnt Obito's susanoo for points and evidences Ive stated above . Hagoromo giving tomoe rinnegan to Sasuke doesnt mean he has it too , for example . I think Kakashi already copied these two techniques requirred for Susano'o earlier and just needed the double sharingan to use it , period and thats my opinion .
 

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Your just mad mad , calm down please . Today's chapter isnt my fault and I prefer Obito to kakashi anyway so please stop implying im in denial , you're the one wanting to defy logic here . " Obito has susanoo because he gave it to Kakashi " is just dumb and irrational and as the same level as people saying Hagoromo or even Kaguya could use Susano'o as Sasuke could use it PS after their meeting and kaguya being the progenitor of all chakra, and then all KKGs lmao . No smartie , our opinions differ here and this isnt Obito's susanoo for points and evidences Ive stated above . Hagoromo giving tomoe rinnegan to Sasuke doesnt mean he has it too , for example . I think Kakashi already copied these two techniques requirred for Susano'o earlier and just needed the double sharingan to use it , period and thats my opinion .

Hagoromo obviously had the tomoe rinnegan before because he was the jinchuriki and he created the moon which is required to open the eyes #Logic . No i'm fine i agree with you now, obito's eyes copy ALL we are going with that explanation.
 

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Hagoromo obviously had the tomoe rinnegan before because he was the jinchuriki and he created the moon which is required to open the eyes #Logic . No i'm fine i agree with you now, obito's eyes copy ALL we are going with that explanation.

Hagoromo never had any tomoed Rinnegan , creating the moon doesn't require it . Its casting Infinite Tsukuyomi who required coming close to the moon to awaken the third tomoed eye and then cast it , as proven in the manga and its something Hagoromo never did .
 

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Hagoromo never had any tomoed Rinnegan , creating the moon doesn't require it . Its casting Infinite Tsukuyomi who required coming close to the moon to awaken the third tomoed eye and then cast it , as proven in the manga and its something Hagoromo never did .

It is outright stated when you get close to the moon the eye opens. If the technique also requires the moon than obviously he had it.

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Jesus, it's obito's susanoo stop saying kakashi is copying techniques just so you can be more butthurt
It was hinted that he possibly copied the Susanoo. Since, on the previous page, it said the copy Ninja Kakashi.
 

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It was hinted that he possibly copied the Susanoo. Since, on the previous page, it said the copy Ninja Kakashi.

Ok then obito's eyes copy ALL we are going with that?
 

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Since Mangekyo techniques are copiable.. What are the limits to the copy ? I mean I've seen some are getting heated here announcing the last chapter proves Susano'o and Amaterasu arent needed to unlock Susano'o , yet nothing implies Kakashi didn't copy these two as he saw and encountered them too before... Plus how did he copy it ? Just by seeing it and moulding his chakra/humanoid as Sasuke's ? How can he do that ? As I dont recall Susano'o needs any hand seals , it's the only logical answer I could think of atm and it makes me wonder what are the limits to the copy technique.

MS are not copiable, no one showed to be able to copy a MS jutsus. Sasuke stated 2 MS allows you to use Susanoo back in the Kage summit arc. You also need to have the skill to use the jutsu that you are trying to copy so unless Kakashi had the skills/power to use PS then he couldn't copy it. This is why Kakashi have Lightning, earth, and water elements to copy jutsus of those elements because if he didn't have those chakra nature then he couldn't copy those jutsus. This is why Kakashi said he can't copy KKG, he doesn't have the ability to use KKG jutsus. You don't need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi for Susanoo, only 2 MS as Sasuke says here . So Kakashi would need to be able to use PS on his own (with the eyes he has) to be able to even try and copy PS and he got his Sharingans when Sasuke's PS was dissolving from Kaguya's hits.
 

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It is outright stated when you get close to the moon the eye opens. If the technique also requires the moon than obviously he had it.

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That knowledge though . Do you even realise Madara flied in the sky to get as close as possible to the moon to open it ? To cast infinite tsukuyomi as you only need the eye to cast it ? Only Madara and Kaguya had the tomoed third eye good god
 

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Ok then obito's eyes copy ALL we are going with that?
Ok Susanoo, Amaterasu, and Tsukuyomi technically are not kkgs, the MS is.

Kakashi has the MS therefore any jutsu that requires the specific kkg (MS), is fair game to copy. Get it? But not kkgs that he doesn't have
 

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That knowledge though . Do you even realise Madara flied in the sky to get as close as possible to the moon to open it ? To cast infinite tsukuyomi as you only need the eye to cast it ? Only Madara and Kaguya had the tomoed third eye good god

Did you read it, it say's they eye will open once you get to the moon. #Denial can't believe you are denying manga facts and not in a totsuka blitz gg kinda way, in the actual this is a fact way.
 

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Did you read it, it say's they eye will open once you get to the moon.

You're a funny one . Hagoromo never approached the moon , he was on earth and created it on his deathbed . With your logic , everybody on earth now has the third eye
 

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Ok Susanoo, Amaterasu, and Tsukuyomi technically are not kkgs, the MS is.

Kakashi has the MS therefore any jutsu that requires the specific kkg (MS), is fair game to copy. Get it? But not kkgs that he doesn't have

So you are saying obito is undoubtedly has the best sharigan because he can just copy others KOTO GG Ammy GG tsukuyomi GG KAMUI GG?
 
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