Mangekyo techs copiable & Susano'o this last chapter

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You're not , you're only blabbering the same ish and doesnt concede anything on a not so far fetched analysis , considering the improbability of this manga this attitude and your opinion can be considered irrelevant really fast . I have my scans backing up what I say too , and you're only repeating the same things I already replied to others in the previous pages . Do you have any other argument ?
Why would I need another argument when my current one is enough already?And my opinion can't be considered irrelevant because I have facts backing it up.
 

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Only because YOU think its not the case , doesnt mean its fanfic lmao. Who are you though ? But anyway , We have scans stating Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi are needed to unlock Susano'o too , Yet I still created this thread to debate with yall so keep calm please .

No we haven't. No scan clearly states that! Either Itachi didn't know that it's also possible with two other MS abilities, or more likely he meant Ama and Tsuku in his own specific case.
And it's also never clearly said that Sasuke can use Tsukuyomi.
But what is clear is that Kekkei genkais cant be copied. and that each MS eye unlocks only two abilities.

Do you really, honestly think that it's more propable, that the last 2 statements were interpreted wrong than that the first statement (You need ama and tsuku) was interpreted wrong? Do you REALLY believe that?
 

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Why would I need another argument when my current one is enough already?And my opinion can't be considered irrelevant because I have facts backing it up.

Lets end this . Unless you finally have an argument and stop bouncing between the I know it all / Im a victim , please do not waste my time .

I) Just because Obito gave Kakashi the MS back doesn't mean Obito could use Susano'o , he never used in the manga and this is like saying Madara's PS is Izuna , Or Hagoromo can then use Susano'o. No my friend , Hagoromo did not hold any tomoed eye yet he gave Sasuke's a power capable to awaken it, and thats my point here , Sasuke had all the requirements to awaken it before besides Hagoromo's chakra and awaken it after he received it . I then speculated Kakashi also copied the Susano'o requirements when he had Obito's MS AS LAST CHAPTER PROVED IT'S POSSIBLE, and just needed the double MS to use it . Did you even read my thread ? You're only blabbering a part of what in saying earlier and thats pretty funny . That theory makes sense and unless you're really simple , you can at least express some criticism instead of acting like a total moron . Please prove me this doesnt proves both of our points .
 

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Lets end this . Unless you finally have an argument and stop bouncing between the I know it all / Im a victim , please do not waste my time .

I) Just because Obito gave Kakashi the MS back doesn't mean Obito could use Susano'o , he never used in the manga and this is like saying Madara's PS is Izuna , Or Hagoromo can then use Susano'o. No my friend , Hagoromo did not hold any tomoed eye yet he gave Sasuke's a power capable to awaken it, and thats my point here , Sasuke had all the requirements to awaken it before besides Hagoromo's chakra and awaken it after he received it . I then speculated Kakashi also copied the Susano'o requirements when he had Obito's MS AS LAST CHAPTER PROVED IT'S POSSIBLE, and just needed the double MS to use it . Did you even read my thread ? You're only blabbering a part of what in saying earlier and thats pretty funny . That theory makes sense and unless you're really simple , you can at least express some criticism instead of acting like a total moron . Please prove me this doesnt proves both of our points .
Ad hominem...ad hominem.Maybe you should drop the hostile attitude before I'll consider having a debate with you.

MS users can't copy other MS techniques otherwise Sasuke and Madara would have Kamui right now.
 

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Ad hominem...ad hominem.Maybe you should drop the hostile attitude before I'll consider having a debate with you.

MS users can't copy other MS techniques otherwise Sasuke and Madara would have Kamui right now.

But Lord Kakashi can do anything.
 

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Ad hominem...ad hominem.Maybe you should drop the hostile attitude before I'll consider having a debate with you.

MS users can't copy other MS techniques otherwise Sasuke and Madara would have Kamui right now.

I reserve myself the right to call you anything I want when you allow yourself to be disrespectful too . As predicted , you have no argument but the denial and the victimisation . @ last sentence , this is clearly what last chapter implies , and this is not the first asspull we experienced , im just trying to see the plausible logic behind it .
 

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I reserve myself the right to call you anything I want when you allow yourself to be disrespectful too . As predicted , you have no argument but the denial and the victimisation . @ last sentence , this is clearly what last chapter implies , and this is not the first asspull we experienced , im just trying to see the plausible logic behind it .

Point out where I've been disrespectful?I did'nt call you dumb or of that sht that you called me.

And how do I have no argument???I still don't see you countering the points I made earlier.
 

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You have your scans and I have mine stating its needed too . I did not made this chapter , its pretty clear Kakashi copied Sasuke's PS .

No you haven't! No scan clearly states that! You can interpret Itachis words the way you did, BUT he could also mean Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi in his own specific case!
We have scans of Sasuke claiming that you have to unlock both abilities!

But most importantly, what is clear is that Kekkei genkais cant be copied. And that each MS eye unlocks only one ability. These statements cant be interpreted wrong! At least it is much less propable. You have to admit that!!!!

Do you really, honestly think that it's more propable, that the last 2 statements were interpreted wrong than that the first statement (You need ama and tsuku) was interpreted wrong? Do you REALLY believe that?
 
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Point out where I've been disrespectful?I did'nt call you dumb or of that sht that you called me.

And how do I have no argument???I still don't see you countering the points I made earlier.

Thanks for not responding again and thus conceding all I have typed . Ostrich's politic never pays bro , we can now close this debate with my points stated and plausible .
 

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Thanks for not responding again and thus conceding all I have typed . Ostrich's politic never pays bro , we can now close this debate with my points stated and plausible .

Wtf?I did respond...and I sure as hell did'nt concede anything to you.

Good luck living in fantasy land though.
 

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@ Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo

No answer is also an answer...
 

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Yes , indeed . You were disrespectful for no reason on an other thread , I dont even know you , learn the bases before expecting a response from me.

Have i insulted you? I cant remember, but i apologize for that.
However, i think the real reason is that you don't have a good answer to my points. But it's okay. Just think about the possibility, that you might have been wrong all the time. Just consider it.
 

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Kishi letting Kakashi have Susanoo debunks the whole Ama and Tsuki being required for Susanoo argument your side clings to.Since Kakashi doesn't have those techniques the above is now considered fanfic.

I've said it once and I'll say it again:Kishi could come out and say Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi aren't needed for Susanoo and you will still get people who will deny it.

If Kishi says it, it is the truth, there can be many possibilities that Kakashi has indeed copied Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, I bet if he were to use Amaterasu in the next chapter, you and your side would deny it.

You think you are Masashi Kishimoto, when you are not. Popular belief is not always the correct belief.
 

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it's a combination of both, that's why his susanoo changed when he revealed his eyes. So now i guess obito doesn't have kakashi's version of kamui right?

Dude, its Kakashi's susanoo, deal with it.
 

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If Kishi says it, it is the truth, there can be many possibilities that Kakashi has indeed copied Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, I bet if he were to use Amaterasu in the next chapter, you and your side would deny it.

You think you are Masashi Kishimoto, when you are not. Popular belief is not always the correct belief.
That's where you're wrong,if Kakashi has Amaterasu(fat chance of that happening) then I'll accept it.

I used to think Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu were needed for Susanoo as well,but then I changed my opinion when the fact came out that only unlocking the unique powers in both eyes is required.Why can't you and the OP consider the possiblity that you two have been relying on bad info all this time?
 
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