Who do u like more: sasuke or naruto?

Sasuke or naruto?

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Naruto seeks to create peace. I don't see what could possibly be pathetic about that. Also, you should have said "isn't" instead of "aren't". Bolding it was not a good idea.
Yes, because a world full of peace will totally happen and we will live happily ever after without any conflict and wars.

Yeah, pathetic ideals. You can't change everyone just because you want it to happen.
 

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Before war arc I use to like naruto better hands down. Didn't even like sasuke. Now, naruto just seems more annoying than sasuke so I prefer sasuke a bit more.
 

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Yes, because a world full of peace will totally happen and we will live happily ever after without any conflict and wars.

Yeah, pathetic ideals. You can't change everyone just because you want it to happen.

The only thing stopping it is people like you who are scared to try.
 

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I like Sasuke more. Always have, always will.

He's more interesting. Even now no one knows what his true motives are

His actions are more understandable to me. The guy doesn't waste time in accomplishing his goals, whatever he sets his mind to, he does with the best of his abilities and with real purpose.

To top it off his presence almost always leaves an impact and I think Kishi has done an excellent job in his character portrayal.
 

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The only thing stopping it is people like you who are scared to try.
Spare me the heart felt bullshit.

It's not about being scared. It's about having enough sense to not believe in nonsense, something you seem to be lacking at.
 

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Both are likeable characters but I don't like Sasuke's attitude so I'll go with Naruto.
 

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Naruto by far, he's awesome
 

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Spare me the heart felt bullshit.

It's not about being scared. It's about having enough sense to not believe in nonsense, something you seem to be lacking at.

Why is it nonsense? Because you don't believe in it. It may not be attainable, but that doesn't mean you should abandon it entirely.
 

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I like Naruto more because Sasukes character and personality is poor. I wouldn't associate myself with someone like him in real life.
 

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Why is it nonsense? Because you don't believe in it. It may not be attainable, but that doesn't mean you should abandon it entirely.
It's ok to wish for peace, but trying to wish for it on the entire world and have everyone think the same and feel the same is very stupid and childish. World peace is nonexistent and it defies the very nature of human logic itself. There will always be wars. There will always be conflict. There will always be hatred. World peace is a child's game and only little kiddies believe in such a concept.

MLK did very good in brining about hope in the world involving the African American race, but it still wasn't enough. There is still hate today involving racism and different skin color. There can only be peace for a short time until something comes in and blows it away.

If you want to hope for something that may not be attainable then fine, you can waste your time wishing or hoping for something that will more than likely never happen.
 

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Explain everything that makes Naruto's ideals not worth following. And no, Sasuke's view of the world is very Black and White compared to Naruto's.
When it comes to ideals, Naruto's are black and white because he thinks the world's only Yin and Yang, in a sense; you're either a redeemable good[ ] or an irredeemable bad.[ ] His ideals are somewhat parasitic as well - if he senses Yang in you, then he will TnJ you until you eventually think in his Yang-based ways, resulting in you doing what, deep down, he wants you to do.[ ] In Black Zetsu's case, Naruto has apparently deemed him an irredeemable bad.[ ]

Naruto's just like Hagoromo, believing in his own form of peace, not willing to even remotely consider anyone else's form of peace,[ ][ ][ ] and shoving his own Yang-based ways down your throat with the casual TnJ.[ ]

Gray you say? Look at the evidence I've linked to you; he doesn't even remotely try to think to himself "Could this work? Could this indeed bring peace to the world?" In short: He's a closed-/one-track-minded Yangtard who is not even remotely gray; the opinions of others can kick rocks for all he cares.

Now, I'm not just going to explain how Naruto is black and white and not explain how Sasuke is gray. Explaining how the latter is gray will be easy; for one, the author already admitted to him being gray, or rather "pure", in his ideals and views.[ ]

Unlike Naruto, who TnJs individuals with his parasitic views, Sasuke was "TnJ'd" (in a way) by Hashirama.[ ] By learning what he learned from Hashirama, with his gray-/pure-mindedness, he was able to change his views and goals and went from wanting to crush Konoha out of blind revenge and nothing more[ ] to wanting to become Hokage and change Konoha's antiquated system;[ ][ ] if that's not gray, I don't know what is.

Just to add onto what should be clear now, Sasuke isn't afraid to 'tell it like it is' either.[ ]

Naruto, on the other hand, is either (1) afraid to do so or (2) so deluded in his Yang-based ways that he actually thought, in that instance, that Sakura and Kakashi were still relevant.[ ]

Side note: You know who else was thought to be good and innocent in their intentions and mindset? - Johan Liebert of Monster, who turned out to be a highly intelligent, sociopathic serial killer who had god-tier TnJ skills...
 

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It's ok to wish for peace, but trying to wish for it on the entire world and have everyone think the same and feel the same is very stupid and childish. World peace is nonexistent and it defies the very nature of human logic itself. There will always be wars. There will always be conflict. There will always be hatred. World peace is a child's game and only little kiddies believe in such a concept.

MLK did very good in brining about hope in the world involving the African American race, but it still wasn't enough. There is still hate today involving racism and different skin color. There can only be peace for a short time until something comes in and blows it away.

If you want to hope for something that may not be attainable then fine, you can waste your time wishing or hoping for something that will more than likely never happen.

They don't need to think/feel the same. They just have to try to understand one another. And once again, it is only out of arrogant disdain that people consider such a goal naive. What do you want to do with your life? Do you know for sure that you will be able to accomplish all of your goals? If you lower your expectations to only things that you know are attainable, are you truly content?

When it comes to ideals, Naruto's are black and white because he thinks the world's only Yin and Yang, in a sense; you're either a redeemable good[ ] or an irredeemable bad.[ ] His ideals are somewhat parasitic as well - if he senses Yang in you, then he will TnJ you until you eventually think in his Yang-based ways, resulting in you doing what, deep down, he wants you to do.[ ] In Black Zetsu's case, Naruto has apparently deemed him an irredeemable bad.[ ]

Naruto's just like Hagoromo, believing in his own form of peace, not willing to even remotely consider anyone else's form of peace,[ ][ ][ ] and shoving his own Yang-based ways down your throat with the casual TnJ.[ ]

Gray you say? Look at the evidence I've linked to you; he doesn't even remotely try to think to himself "Could this work? Could this indeed bring peace to the world?" In short: He's a closed-/one-track-minded Yangtard who is not even remotely gray; the opinions of others can kick rocks for all he cares.

Now, I'm not just going to explain how Naruto is black and white and not explain how Sasuke is gray. Explaining how the latter is gray will be easy; for one, the author already admitted to him being gray, or rather "pure", in his ideals and views.[ ]

Unlike Naruto, who TnJs individuals with his parasitic views, Sasuke was "TnJ'd" (in a way) by Hashirama.[ ] By learning what he learned from Hashirama, with his gray-/pure-mindedness, he was able to change his views and goals and went from wanting to crush Konoha out of blind revenge and nothing more[ ] to wanting to become Hokage and change Konoha's antiquated system;[ ][ ] if that's not gray, I don't know what is.

Just to add onto what should be clear now, Sasuke isn't afraid to 'tell it like it is' either.[ ]

Naruto, on the other hand, is either (1) afraid to do so or (2) so deluded in his Yang-based ways that he actually thought, in that instance, that Sakura and Kakashi were still relevant.[ ]

Side note: You know who else was thought to be good and innocent in their intentions and mindset? - Johan Liebert of Monster, who turned out to be a highly intelligent, sociopathic serial killer who had god-tier TnJ skills...

You speak with such bias. Naruto doesn't see anyone as inherently evil. He reserves his final judgment until he truly understands his foe. Sasuke has a concrete mindset when he encounters an enemy. His perception has been changed throughout the series, but he will never try to initiate this change in the face of an opponent. His mind is malleable, and his resolve is weak, at least compared to Naruto.
 
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I preferred Sasuke from part 1 to the kage summit arc / ems acquisition . After that , with the fact he dont get much screen time , and I feel like the author nerfing his characters and relevancy too much , I kinda lost hope for him . So now I like them equally but if Sasuke truly comes back I'd be on his side for sure.
 

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Yes, because a world full of peace will totally happen and we will live happily ever after without any conflict and wars.

Yeah, pathetic ideals. You can't change everyone just because you want it to happen.

Dude what have you been talking about, his dream is to eliminate hatred. That doesn't mean he would go around every body's house trying to do that.
For once take that Naruto hate of your eyes and you would see what is at the end of the tunnel.

And Oh Narutos character and personality is better than Sasukes by a mile you couldn't even comprehend.
 

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You speak with such bias. Naruto doesn't see anyone as inherently evil. He reserves his final judgment until he truly understands his foe. Sasuke has a concrete mindset when he encounters an enemy. His perception has been changed throughout the series, but he will never try to initiate this change in the face of an opponent. His mind is malleable, and his resolve is weak, at least compared to Naruto.
Firstly, world views don't equate to views of an individual. Sasuke is a traditional Machiavellian; anyone who opposes him in anyway is, simply put, going to get rekt and them getting rekt has nothing to do with what he thinks of them (grayness at its best). Naruto, however, like you said, passes judgement on people (which in itself is black and white...) later on after 'figuring them out', deciding whether or not their good (Yang) or bad (Yin), and plans out his method of manipulation TnJ with that information.

Once again, world views ≠ views on a individual.
 

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Firstly, world views don't equate to views of an individual. Sasuke is a traditional Machiavellian; anyone who opposes him in anyway is, simply put, going to get rekt and them getting rekt has nothing to do with what he thinks of them (grayness at its best). Naruto, however, like you said, passes judgement on people (which in itself is black and white...) later on after 'figuring them out', deciding whether or not their good (Yang) or bad (Yin), and plans out his method of manipulation TnJ with that information.

Once again, world views ≠ views on a individual.

Naruto's judgment is always the same. He has never not forgiven someone for their actions. And Sasuke is not Machiavellian at all.
 

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I never said he is a fairy type character,the way Kishi writes him however comes off as a little too idealistic.Naruto thinks in Black and White when the world is a shade of grey.
Naruto never takes the world to be Black and White, otherwise he would have never admired Obito's whites (merits) and would have kept on crying about his blacks (flaws)......Naruto accepts people as they are and tries to look at their whiter side more than their dark side, thats all!! U_U
And yeah it is Sasuke who sees the world as only Black and White. Even if a person has a few good attributes, Sasuke will neglect them in response to that person's flaws and mistakes.........whereas Naruto on the other hand tries to see both sides of coin. Even if he is vicious and evil, he still believes that he has some white in him i.e. he considers everyone grey unlike Sasuke.
That is the reason, when everyone thought that Sasuke has turned evil, Naruto still believed in him!! U_U
 
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They don't need to think/feel the same. They just have to try to understand one another. And once again, it is only out of arrogant disdain that people consider such a goal naive. What do you want to do with your life? Do you know for sure that you will be able to accomplish all of your goals? If you lower your expectations to only things that you know are attainable, are you truly content?
Pretty sure it's more of an arrogant disdain to wish for happiness across the world, but whatever.

Dude what have you been talking about, his dream is to eliminate hatred. That doesn't mean he would go around every body's house trying to do that.
For once take that Naruto hate of your eyes and you would see what is at the end of the tunnel.

And Oh Narutos character and personality is better than Sasukes by a mile you couldn't even comprehend.
@bold 1: I could say the same to you. Everything you say is full of constant stupidity. Take that Sasuke hate out of your eyes and notice the flaws in this shitty main character that you are trying so hard to defend.

@bold 2: You can argue that Naruto's personality is better, which I still don't agree with, but to state that his character is better than Sasuke is really dumb on your end. You would do well to read this manga starting from chapter 3 if you think that.
Ever since the beginning of Shippuden, Naruto's character has turned into shit. Kishimoto actually knows how to make a real character out of Sasuke. I can't say the same for Naruto though. Naruto is a joke when it comes to character.

What type of character accidently hurts there friends because someone badmouthed a certain someone?
What type of character spends most of a series looking and searching for a boy that gives no fcks about him?
What type of character hyperventilates over a boy that doesn't care about him?
What type of character admires a murderer and considerers that murderer "awesome"?
What type of character rejects their friends just to get the approval of a certain Uchiha?
What type of character is willing to die for a boy that wanted to destroy is very home and give up the title of hokage? <----oh, but wait, weren't you fapping to Obito last chapter about liking him for becoming Hokage?

Yeah, you're right. Naruto Uzumaki's character is way better than Sasuke's. :rolleyes:
 
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Naruto's judgment is always the same. He has never not forgiven someone for their actions. And Sasuke is not Machiavellian at all.
You say that like you're so sure he forgave Obito for all of his many many many crimes...

In a traditional sense, yes Sasuke is. If when you hear "Machiavellian", you think about people like Lex Luthor or Danzo, or you think of "using clever lies and tricks in order to get or achieve something", you simply don't know what a traditional Machiavellian is.
 
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