Obito should have been FV

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Watching that ending again makes me understand more of just how excellent a character and villain Obito really was. People don't understand that his reasonings are more complex than "you let Rin die." It's more like "you let the symbol of hope and happiness in my life die."
He killed Minato and Kushina.
He is directly involved with the Uchiha massacre.
He led the Akatsuki.
He manipulated Sasuke.
He is responsible for almost every awful thing in Naruto's life and Sasuke's life to a lesser extent.
He started a world war.
And finally he is what Naruto could have become.

There was really no reason to involve Madara or Kaguya at all. Instead of Edo Madara it could have been Edo Hashirama or something. Yes I know Hashirama could break Kabuto's control, but Kishi could have given Kabuto the power to stop that from happening or something.
Also, it would keep the mystery of Tobi up. He would still have all (or most of us) convinced that he was Madara, and when the mask falls off, it's actually Kakashi's childhood best friend turned cold heartless killer.
That would have much more of an impact than Madara and Kaguya who have barely any connection to the main characters.
 

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He was the worst villain bro. It should have been Orochimaru or Madara.
 

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yeah I said this when madara was fv but leave it to madara fans which there were many at the time to say im just trolling.
 

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I think Orochimaru should've been the FV because the snake is always the bad one in anything. If you think about it, Kaguya was called the Rabbit Goddess. It would make sense if Orochimaru somehow became FV because a rabbit is the prey of a snake.
 

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He was the worst villain bro. It should have been Orochimaru or Madara.

madara was a crap villain he was just an obito rip off, and aizen rip off, and very bland but fun to look at.
orochimaru was only a good villain because he had an interesting character concept and powers.
 

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If he stayed Tobi he would've made the best villain. Alas, he turned into a non-badass cry baby who contradicts himself.
 

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Final Villain should have been Tobi. Obito is just awful.
 

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Obito was just okay villain. Madara could have been excellent FV if it isn't BZ.
 

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I think Orochimaru should've been the FV because the snake is always the bad one in anything. If you think about it, Kaguya was called the Rabbit Goddess. It would make sense if Orochimaru somehow became FV because a rabbit is the prey of a snake.
Id like Orochimaru to be FV, but from a story perspective, he'd be a worse choice than Obito who has had more of an impact and relationship with the main characters.
If he stayed Tobi he would've made the best villain. Alas, he turned into a non-badass cry baby who contradicts himself.

Contradicts himself?
As soon as the mask came off he became unbearable.

Because of Rin?
 

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I respectfully disagree. Someone being manipulated more than half their life cannot be the FV.

Especially by someone who "almost" started all the drama on Naruto, Madara.
 

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He was always far too similar to Naruto himself to actually be the final villain. And as soon as Madara was reanimated we knew it wouldn't be him, though I had hoped he would still be able to Rinne Tensei the alliance before leaving.
 

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I respectfully disagree. Someone being manipulated more than half their life cannot be the FV.

Especially by someone who "almost" started all the drama on Naruto, Madara.

If Tobi was a villain all by himself, Madara would completely unnecessary. But to extend the story, Kishi introduced Madara.
He was always far too similar to Naruto himself to actually be the final villain. And as soon as Madara was reanimated we knew it wouldn't be him, though I had hoped he would still be able to Rinne Tensei the alliance before leaving.

I find it very interesting when the villain is similar to the hero.
 

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Would've been nice for Kishi not to have overdone the whole Rin thing though. Perhaps a flashback at the beginning and towards the end but not much in between since it began to annoy.


Although yeah, he has the most connections to the main characters mainly because he was the one taking action. The one who we've been seeing in the mask all this time. As opposed to Madara who was deadall that time.

Although I still prefer Madara over Kaguya though. Kishi utterly ruined what she could've been.
 

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I guess. If kishi had done something similar to what you said, I guess it could've worked. But it kishi did that there would still be the question of why he impersonated Madara. Then again Obito could just say that he needed an identity that carried some weight.
 

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I respectfully disagree. Someone being manipulated more than half their life cannot be the FV.

Especially by someone who "almost" started all the drama on Naruto, Madara.
you didn't read the op. he said madara and kaguya weren't introduced meaning obito would not have been manipulated.. and for all we know kaguya is being manipulated by bz.
 

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Id like Orochimaru to be FV, but from a story perspective, he'd be a worse choice than Obito who has had more of an impact and relationship with the main characters.


Contradicts himself?


Because of Rin?

She has a lot to do with it. But he also lost any villain feel imo. The only reason I kept reading then was because of Madara.
 

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Would've been nice for Kishi not to have overdone the whole Rin thing though. Perhaps a flashback at the beginning and towards the end but not much in between since it began to annoy.


Although yeah, he has the most connections to the main characters mainly because he was the one taking action. The one who we've been seeing in the mask all this time. As opposed to Madara who was deadall that time.

Although I still prefer Madara over Kaguya though. Kishi utterly ruined what she could've been.

Perhaps the Rin thing was overdone. But the more I think about it, the more I don't mind it.
 
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